not gameplay-wise, but lore-wise they were

This thread is a discussion about which mythical hero is the strongest. No more than that.

Arguing over what is fair or unfair strays from the main topic.

you need two to three things for a fight, deadly warrior style like this:

Fighters: Essential. we have these, check

Skills/equipment: Without this, there can be no fight. There is no gear, or skills other than the gifts from the divines, not check

X-Factors: These are the extra stuff, like logic, who sees who first (element of surprise), Terrain. Checked partly.

Simply put, a fight cannot happen as one of the three essential items is missing.

LDB is pound for pound more powerful than most of them.

whoever hits first prettty much wins, this gets us nowhere

That means Dovahkiin is gonna win automatically. The Nerevarine may have been a reincarnation of a Chimer General/warlord, but he was still simply not mythical other than name. The CoC pre-SI is simply a mortal who got lucky.

The only truly mythical being is the LDB, whose soul is part of AKATOSH.

No, he is the Champion of the Divines, as the Wielder of the Crusaders Relics.
It is also likely the Prophet, who told him of the relics and personally gave him the Blessing of Talos was in fact an Aspect of Talos himself.

The Nervarine was the Champion of Azura/Boethiah, was immune to aging and disease, and the reincarnation of demigod who was given the name God-Killer. Claiming Nerevar was a pushover is folly. Only two people in history has defeated Lorkhan and the other one was a Divine.

we do not know if he had the Skills to use them, canonically, so we cannot consider him/her being able to use them effectively. They are out simply because of lack of potential skill to use them.

Not powerful enough, as Pelinal was ripped apart. I doubt they can protect from a dragon. Its not like Kyne's mail.

Not calling Nerevar a push over. Just logically saying that going by what we know, the only person who CAN fight in this scenario is the Dovhakiin so he/she wins by default.

You misunderstand this thread's aim.

We're not literally trying to picture a full battle from the beginning, with all little details like what gear they're wearing, what the enviroment is and who makes the first move.

Yes, but he also has the Blessing of Talos, which the Prophet was likely an Aspect of Talos..

question is, are the Boots Blessing effective against Dragons (The Fact they Prevent All Beasts from attacking unless you yourself attack them first)

this. it's more of a general assumption based on what very little we can know

Right; CoC succeeded where Pelinal failed because of that Blessing.

Then this thread's name should have been "who wins between Dovahkiin and Dovahkiin, as no other hero has anything to help him without getting into hypothetical theories."

That's like saying "M1 vs Tiger, who would win?"

"M1, it's got better armour, weapons and mobility."

"But they weren't developed in 1943, so they don't have them. Therefore tiger wins by default."

Limiting the opposition to win doesn't prove who's stronger.

Yes, and Pelinal was considered quite a bad*** in Tamriels History

You can get a blessing of talos from a shrine. Lorewise we dont know if it gives him any major power beyong killing umaril for good.

Exactly. The fact that we have no clue what the Canon Nerevarine or Champion of Cyrodiil would have in terms of skill means we have to drop the subject because they have nothing for the fight other than nothing, except the crusader relics, but then they might not be used to their fullest as there is no canon skill set for the CoC.

we take what we 100% know about each candidate, and compare them to each other, is that so hard?

what they achieved canonically can be used to gauge a certain degree of 'power' too

Uh, yeah, considering the fact that without the possibilities, the Nerevarine and CoC have nothing to really fight with and thus stand no chance against the LDB (LDB wins by default).

Cyrus? If you buy into MK's stuff, he's the second more powerful being in all of TES pre-Skyrim.

what they achieved can be used to gauge how they would fair in combat against each other too

it doesn't matter how

(god knows how many times i've had to say this)

not the Same Blessing of Talos...

the Blessing the CoC was given allowed him to Succeed where Pelinal himself Failed.
Pelinal was considered quite the Hero during the time of St. Alessia.. Not to mention, it is Hinted in "the Song of Pelinal v5" that he may have been a Shezzarine.

So being able to succeed where Pelinal failed is a major accomplishment