Soultear is pretty devastating.

i would be inclined to agree and pick the LDB, despite my bias however, exceptionally powerful tongues aren't infallible, and have been defeated before

then you have to look at how the LDB compares to previous tonuges i.e Wulfarth

I'm not even accounting for shouts. My dude is damned near completely immune to magic. He has restoration maxed, one hander, heavy armor. I basically run around with greater ward up and just snore at mages. Well. anything, really.

Nerevarine wouldn't stand an ice cicle's chance in hell against Ulfgar the Hrothgarson.

He's likely lorewise the most powerful tongue that ever lived.

True, good point but the dovahkiin as far as we know hasn't been alive since the third era.


Now that I agree with you on, the LDB is very much the most overpowered TES hero so far.

None of those fit, though.

Jagar Tharn was defeated by the Eternal Champion and Uriel VII was not present until AFTER.

Vivec was not present when Dagoth Ur was defeated and it was the Nerevarine that defeated Dagoth Ur.

Again, the CoC defeats Mankar Camoran. Martin Septim isn't present. Mankar Camoran isn't present when Martin sacrifices himself.

None of those are comparable to the -Rebel, Witness, King - events in Skyrim.

Joffrey, Ilyn Paine, Eddard Stark.

I think Pelinal takes the cake as most op, but I assume you meant just playable.

that may not be everyones LDB, and therefore cannot be canon, if this is lorewise. Gameplay wise there a helluva lot of exploits to exploit in skyim!

be interesting to know HOW much more powerful, wish there was more info on this in game..

Yea I did mean playable, though Cyrus certainly is one of the most bad-ass playable heroes.

My point is that Beth made the LDB character have way more overpowered choices than they gave the Nerevarine.

Well, when you potentially have a lightsaber for an arm, I don't think many people will be arguing the notion.

whether they did that to reflect the LDB's power is arguable

Hahahah become ethereal is one of the most overpowered shouts in the game; especially if you meditate on it.

I don't think it was ever stated that all three have to be in the same place and time to be relevant and there is a theory that not all three are needed at the same time and that there only needs to be two. So if that theory is right then the Nerevarine could be the king since they have a more active role in taking out Dagoth Ur, the rebel. Hell, the LDB mantling someone is a theory as well and has not been supported by any devs.

How so?

Slaying/defeating several gods > Slaying one demi-god

I'd say Nerevarine wins out on achievements/choices. I mean, he/she even managed to beat Hircine and also possibly killed Vivec, who has CHIM.

But then, the LDB is the second most powerful tongue, only behind Talos, and the Thu'um is quite omnipotent though the same cannot be said for the one using it.

Tiber Septim the man, was not amongst the most powerful tongues. No dragons/very little to absorb and only a few years of Greybeard training under his belt. He relied on Wulfharth's much more powerful thu'um in his conquest of Tamriel.

Not Tiber Septim, Talos.

The Nerevarine would win. The Nerevarine had defeated 2 mer-gods (Dagoth Ur, Almalexia), as well as an Aspect of Hircine. Even Vivec was scared of the Nerevarine, when Vivec has the audacity to flat out spit in the face of the Daedric Prince, Azura. The Nerevarine is presumably even more powerful now, 200+ years after the events of TES III: Morrowind. Both the Nerevarine and CoC had access to Silence spells as well, which would cripple the Dovahkiin.

The Agent was killed by the Numidium. One of the possible endings to TES II: Daggerfall was that the Agent used the Totem of Tiber Septim for his own means, and Numidium stepped on him and killed him. Because of the Dragon Break, all possible Daggerfall endings happened. Therefore, the Agent is dead. Numidium could be beaten though, Zurin Arctus' body as a Lich (the Underking) blew Numidium apart in an attempt to reclaim his soul from the Mantella.

Talos doesn't really count. He's a god and comparing him to a mortal..

There were dragons during Tiber's life, just not many. Cyrus even defeated a dragon who was serving under Tiber Septim and one dragon was the familiar of Nulfaga the mother of King Lysandus so he was probably around during Tiber's life and we have a dragon who lived with Samar Starlover named Dragonne Papre.

the silence spell argument counts for next to nothing, we don't know if the nerevarine was a magic wielder for starters

also, if he/she was, then as previously stated, the dovahkiin could just use slowtime/ice form or whatever to pretty much insta-win, which ultimately comes down to who hits first, thus giving both an equal chance of winning-bringing us back to square 1

I already know there were Dragons in Tiber's time. He gave the remaining dragons amnesty.

When it comes to something like this, we have to consider their skill sets. IF they all have all the skills from their respective games, everyone is pretty matched up, especially if they know what the other is going to do.

I honestly think My Nevarine and My Dragonborn would both attack each other using Shouts, but We do not know what the Tsaescii Kia'i (spelling?) actually is. I do have trouble seeing the three Characters that have become My Headcanon actually killing each other.