an idea and some critique

Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:14 pm

So I am making a kind of shaman of the north character (Nord, light armor, two handed melee, restoration, frost destruction and smithing). I just want to know what you all think about the character. Please be honest, and feel free to give advice on RP for the character.

Here is the information:

  • Name: Jorunn Kjeldsen
  • Race: Nord
  • Buid: Shaman of the North (Frost Destruction, Two handed (battle axes/warhammers with unique uniques mod), smithing (light armor), restoration (healing only), Block, Lycanthropy)
  • Story: Jorunn Kjeldsen was born to a tribe of Nords from birth having the spirit of the wolf. The tribe lived pretty much to themselves in the snowy parts of Cyrodiil. His father led the tribe politically, and his mother was the shaman. The tribe worshiped Hircine, and hunted bandits and goblins with their lycanthropic powers. They respect the animals of nature, and as such refuse to eat animals, nor can cook or make potions using animal parts. Hide armors are naturally used, as long as the leather is bought from stores or the hides found separately or gathered by allies. When Jorunn came of age, he was "banished" from the tribe as a right of passage, in which the member in question "wakes" and becomes one with their wolf spirit. He travelled all of Cyrodiil trying to find out how to "wake" his dormant wolf spirit. He then decided to travel to Skyrim, for more information on lycantropy.

Like I said, be honest, I know it could really use some work.

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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:06 pm

Ok, so I don't know how lore friendly said build and story is, but whatever.

Jorunn is a girls name, I don't know if you really care, but as a scandinavian I can guarantee you that it is. Nords don't usually have names like that, they seem to roll more with titles, like Half-Troll and Stonesinger etc. If you want to roll with it traditionally then go for it, though the sen ending is more of a danish and later norwegian way to end it, if you want it more viking-like I would suggest ending it with son, that's what they do in sweden and Iceland (and iceland is the language closest to the Norse one) If you intended for it to be a girl (but you said he so I assume you're not) I would end such name with dottir or something like that.

As far as the build goes, I don't know how shamans work, there never was a shaman class, Light armor could work if you want to look tribal and primitive etc (Forsworn armor is great for roleplaying stuff like that), if not then the second best thing I can think of is fur armor and maybe the arch mage robes.

Frost is cool, just keep in mind that you will be fighting a bunch of Nords a lot of the time and they have resistance to frost, but your battle-axe should take care of that. The rest of the set-up seems fine, I probably would have gone with weapon and spell or dual wielding, but that's just me.

Those are my initial thoughts anyways, if you like the build go for it, what others think doesn't matter.

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Post » Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:53 am

As for the build, it could work. I would do some enchanting at one point. I like to save up items to break down all at once when I reach about 20th level and make some cheap petty soul daggers to get to 40 or 50 enchant all at once and perk it up. You'll find the fortify destruction enchant quite useful as well as being able to get good 4 smithing items to help improve the crappy fur/hide armors.

As for the backstory, I don't think the part about not eating or killing animals makes much sense for a werewolf society and a northern one. Werewolves unconsciously crave meat when transformed and hunting just provides nature's balance and is not really evil. Also, peoples from frozen areas ate lots of meat as farming was not really easy or even possible.

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Post » Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:49 am


The name came from UESP, and there, Jorunn is under the male names. It was meant to be lore-friendly, and use names from TES lore.



True. I may change that part, or make him feel like the Werewolves are an abomination and end up trying to remove it more permanently (which would probably involve waking it in the first place). The idea for the tribe and no eating animals was more based off of the Beornings from the Tolkien universe. I could probably restrict it to not craft items from animals killed by him.
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Post » Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:46 am


Hey could you answer me a qustion and help me with name issue? First the question: Is Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and... Ice Landish? too different from each other like Portuguese and Italian or they're close like Spanish and Portuguese. I mean, if a Portuguese speaker pays.real attention to a Spanish speaker he will be able to get the main idea.of the conversation and vice versa. Now the name issue. Can you give me a real uncommon modern day male norse name? I want to create a Nord with a original uncommon name. Surname will be Eriksson.
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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:08 pm


I got the name from UESP, where it is male. All my characters have names that are lore-friendly, and lore-based.
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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:37 pm

Drake I liked the idea of Tribal stuff. Why don't make him a Skaal? If you're on PC you could already give.him.the Skaal outfit. And the Shaman stuff is also pretty cool.
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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:52 pm


Because I do not really care for Solstheim all that much myself. As for the Shaman stuff was something I wanted to have to set him apart from the other barbarian archetype warriors. Also here is an edit to the story:

Story: Jorunn Kjeldsen was born to a tribe of Nords from birth having the spirit of the wolf. The tribe lived pretty much to themselves in the snowy parts of Cyrodiil. His father led the tribe politically, and his mother was the shaman. The tribe worshiped Hircine, and hunted bandits and goblins that came a bit close to their village with their lycanthropic powers. They will not cook or use alchemy from animal parts, but often traded for already hunted meat, as well as keeping themselves connected to the outside peoples. Hide armors are naturally used, as long as the leather is bought from stores or the hides found separately or gathered by allies. Jorunn himself did not trust any Daedric prince, favoring the worship of Kyne. When Jorunn came of age, he was "banished" from the tribe as a right of passage, in which the member in question "wakes" and becomes one with their wolf spirit. He travelled all of Cyrodiil trying to find out how to "wake" his dormant wolf spirit, so he can rid himself of it permanently. He then decided to travel to Skyrim, for more information on lycantropy, in hopes of saving his family from the cursed grip of Hircine.

Also changed the skills to include Enchanting as a prime skill rather than smithing.
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Post » Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:33 am

I see. Well I must say this Nord tribal from Cyrodiil kinda strange but the rest is very cool. But like Emberoth said, it's your RP :D and you can and should.do.all you want with it. :D
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Post » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:28 am


"tribe" is a bit of a misnomer. It is more of a communal family, where everyone is treated like a brother or sister.
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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:32 pm


It is a girls name, why on earth Bethesda would give it to the nord king in ESO is beyond me.
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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:18 pm


That is the way it is, but I will change to Jervar or something.
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Post » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:32 am


lack of a deep research? I bet they just searched in Google norse names and thought it was cool (and it is) but forgot to see its a female name.


Well Allyson is a.very.common male name in Brazil but I.never seen it on men in native English speakers country.
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Post » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:29 am


Probably sounded more masculine than most Nord names, so they decided to give the manly nord a manly sounding name.
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Post » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:36 am

Probably because in phonetic English it would sound something like "Jaw-un", with a hard "J", whereas in Norwegian it's softer "Yeurrr-un".

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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:57 pm

Personally, when I hear shaman I think of conjuring things, so I would go with conjuration over restoration. I think it fits really well too... I mean, a Nordic tribal shaman summoning an ice golem. Sounds pretty epic to me. If you go that route I would say use summon familiar, soul trap and training until you can get "Summon Frost Atronach" since I don't think any of the other summoning spells really fit.

I also think of alchemy when I hear shaman... sort of like the wise women in the orc camps. This is just an idea i'm throwing out there since it sounds like you want more of a fighter with smithing and two handed.

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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:39 pm

Well would you look at that, that's odd... I guess it's fine then, I guess ther is also a Hjorrun or something in Skyrim. And there were a lot of sen names in the early early TES games, the y don't seem to pop up too often.

Ok, language lesson: :tongue:

Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian are pretty similar and if you know one understanding and learning the others isn't all that hard, however it's not always easy to communicate as some people have weirder dialects than others. In my experience Norwegians understand the most of what both parts are saying, maybe it's because we've been in unions with both countries. Anyways written Danish and Norwegian is pretty similar, at least the most common forms as we have two written forms of Norwegian and one was based around danish and is similar to a lot of the dialects in the east around Oslo, and the other written form is based on dialects all around norway and some people thinks it sounds Swedish (stupid norwegian teenagers, nynorsk was one of my better subjects in school). Spoken, Swedish is easier to understand than Danish, this is mainly die to pronounsiation where the danes don't always pronounce stuff as clearly as we would like, some people compare it to speaking Norwegian with a potato down your throat. Danish also have some words that are more similar to German if not the same.

Now Icelandic is kinda the odd one out here as it's closer to norse and I'm not sure if I could say older language, they've also done their share in preserving it, not importing words from English or French but making their own occationally, like a Garrage is a Garrage in most languages, but the translation from Icelandic would say Car-shed or Car-shack. Now Icelandics have danish in school as faras I know and understand most things, they can understand nynorsk if spoken slowly, just as an example. Icelandic is sometimes hard to understand when spoken, if you read it it's not all that hard, though some words might be foreign, you know and reckognize enough words to understand what is being said, the same goes for norse if you get the texts written in the latin alphabet, at least most of the time.

Icelandic also uses different letters such as the eth and the thorn, which is similar to the th sound that you have in English, this sound is not common if used at all anymore in Danish, Swedish and Norwegian. So they are all somewhat close, but Icelandic is kinda difficult and the one that stands the most out from the others.

I hope that made sense.

As far as the name I will have to think of that one, a favourite of mine is Gandalv (he was a viking king/chieftain, look it up), H?rek (Haarek) which is a classic person from the sagas and the name of Hagar the Horrible in the Norwegian translations. Names such as H?kon, Olav and Harald are of course classic if you are a king. Rolf or Rolv is also a classic figure, as you have Gange-Rolf (Rolf the Walker) who might be more known as Rollo the Viking. Eirik is a good one, Eirik Bloodaxe was quite the viking. Skallagrim is an uncommon but well know name, some ugly big and strong dude mentioned in connection with his son Egil. Halvdan is another good name, along with Geir (which means spear) Asgeir (Gods spear).

Of course there are also the good animal names. Bj?rn (or Bjorn Bjoern etc.) which means Bear, Ulv or Ulf which weans wolf, ?rn which means Eagle, Ravn (Hrafn can work too I guess) which means Raven. Elg, which means Moose. Objects Stein, which means Rock, Steinar which means Rock Warrior.

Hope that helps.

Maybe they just didn't give a [censored].

Back on topic.

As far as the build, I still think it looks fine, my shaman/whitch doctor people have usually been, restoration, illusion and conjuration with focus on Necromancy, but I guess that depends on how your fictional tribal culture works.

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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:34 pm

As for a person who isn't native speaker, but understands Swedish, I could add that if you know one language it is quite easy to read but not so easy to listen. I've been in Denmark and I just couldn't understand a bit they were saying! On the other hand, I've also lived 6 moths in Scotland and I didn't understand them either :D

But on the topic: Your character looks cool and is surely fun to play. However, I don't quite understand how the tribe worships Hircine, Daedric Prince of Hunt, and doesn't hunt for meat.

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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:08 pm

Good point, Hirsine would want them to hunt animals. Wouldn't he?

And on the language, as I said, Danes speak with a potato jammed down their throat. Or as my dad likes to put it: "Danish isn't a language, it's a speach impediment"

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Post » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:23 pm

Yeah, I know what you mean. Why do they need so many letter 'O's if there is no consistence in using them? Any Danes here? :D

But English doesn't make much sense to me either.

Oh, I forgot. WARNING! The video clip contains some bad language!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofCE8F2wo8k

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