Besides the continent.

Their cooking. Eh, who knows.

It's the difference between http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape (Imga) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey (Tang-Mo).

Imga don't seem to be much of a coherent civilization rather than just tribes or groups of apefolk. They don't have any formal type of government or standing army either, so there little more then just a lesser species so to speak with no real political influence in Tamriel, other than being Cannon fodder for the Aldmeri Dominion (when it was around) or any other nation that got their hands on the poor guys.

The Tango Ma on the other hand, is an actual civilization. They have real culutre and standing amoung nations. They have a fierce (obviously from Mysterious Akivir) army that has kept them mostly free from slavery and have even successfully fought wars against every nation in Akivir. So the difference? one of them has a national identity, standing, unity and political influence, while the other doesn't.

That seems ironic that the monkeys are the one with a civilization.

Well....I think "monkey" and "ape" are very very simplified ways of putting it. Don't picture the Tang'Mo as little spider monkeys doing battle with giant snow demons or tiger dragons as I think that may be a bit off.....

I've honestly always pictured the Tang'Mo as being a planet of the apes-esque civilization while I've kind of pictured the Imga as being kind of a like a homo-erectus sort of midway point between apes and man. Maybe a little closer to man in terms of intelligence and closer to apes in body...idk...

We really haven't been given all that much info that I know of on either race, so its really just conjecture and how you picture them from what your given.

I've always pictured the Imga as sort of gray-haired guirillas that stand on their hind feet all the time, whil I have pictured the Tang Mo exactly the same. The Tang Mo are reffered to as kind ape men, just like Imga are reffered to as rude ape men. Why did Beth create the same species twice? I have no clue.

This usually gets mentioned in a Tang-Mo thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gmABsTi1-k

Watch it because it's exactly how a bunch of monkeys would take over the world.

edit:

Better link.

Considering how little is actually known about either, I hardly think it's fair to call them the same. Monkeys aren't apes, for one thing. For another... even if they were on the same continent, Valenwood is an immensely different environment. Just living around Bosmer is apt to have a major impact on any culture.

can someone please tell me where the Tang Mo were discribed as monkeys, because I heard them discribed as ape men

Just about everywhere in Mysterious Akavir.

Hah - sorta like a certain Bosmer has an undeniable effect on Nerevarines?

There is some beautiful artwork on the Imga by a dev and some more by a modder that disappeared

The dev stuff was of an Imga Chieftain, all dressed up like an Altmer and doubtless calling himself Most High Count and Lord Ugmugget. Thing being the Imga decided that the Altmer are the Bees-Knees and believe that they are like them = they all have titles! But the Imga look down on the Bosmer as inferiors - guess they learned a bit too well from the Altmer and had never been to Seyda Neen If they had ever met Fargoth they would acknowledge that nothing is more terrifying than a Bosmer with 400 luck!

Check the http://www.imperial-library.info/jobasha/dreadful_theft.shtml - a wonderful book. linky to til.

can you post the link to the concept art please

I try to mention that as often as possible. I've got the complete 50 something episode series, and Journey to the West, the source material, was the most likely inspiration for Tang Mo. I think MK says as much somewhere.

But as for the topic. The Tang Mo are monkeys who are "kind, brave, and simple (and many are also very crazy)". The Imga are snobbish apes with delusions of grandeur.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Beth actualy got inpired by that!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Wukong from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_west. I'm not sure the TV series was widely shown in the US, but it's a cult classic in Australia and Britain.

Edit: As another piece of trivia Dragonballz is inspired by the same material.

oh. my. god.

that is so AWESOME!

:lmao:

The imga are total bigots who deserve to become dagon's...err, "friends", and Tang mo propably are not.

Read Sun's Dusk -
This statement comes from the Bosmer in the Tale:

The response is from a Breton the Bosmer has just insulted:


The Bosmer have been [censored] on the Imga (and I expect the Imga are among the original inhabitants of Valenwood) since Almeris - thousands of years? What did the Imga get out of it? A string of beads? Along come the Altmer and do to the Bosmer what the Bosmer did to the Imga - and the Imga love it! Not surprising really. The Breton is doing a favour for that Bosmer and the Imga can smell that on him - they have seen him around and they know him for what he is - svcking up to the Bosmer who despise him and the Imga both. Maybe the Dunmer and the Altmer are not the only snobs?

Do you think that when Valenwood is done we will get a different picture? :shrugs:

I would so love it if Bethesda had the Empire enforce a positive discrimination act for Imga in the next TES plugin/game.

The Tang Mo are a strong and proud nation of monkey men that have been able to fight off all the other akaviri denizens at one point or another while the Imga are a bunch of Altmer loving ape men who look down on all men as their inferior and have a strong dislike of bosmer. So Tang Mo awesome, Imga are punks.

:lol: Dreams of frustrating thousands of Fargoths?

i was disappointed there wasn't an Imga emissary in the imperial city (or any of the lesser races) in OB.

Given that there were 2 'missions' in Ebonheart which was not actually the capital city of Morrowind or anything near it and that Morrowind was certainly in name a treaty-state rather than a full Province ... - I just thought ...

But never fear, someone will turn up to say we were wrong, I am wrong, and that not having Embassies in Cyrodiil was really a good thing. rofl

If I were making Cyrodiil I would have been creating embassies for not only every province, but also major nations from other continents - especially the Tscaesci. because the Imperials are the great traders and communicators if for no other reason so anything less makes no sense.

However I wonder if the Imga are that organised? They would have had an emissary to the Altmer during the Dominion in Valenwood, but i'm not sure they actually rate mere humans in the same category as the Altmer. And although they have a strong grasp on what is happening in Valenwood I would have to wonder if they have any real idea of what lies outside it?

That makes as much sense as having a [censored] trading post in Washington D.C. for Iran, Cuba, and North Korea that is placed right next to a fuel depot with a sign hanging on the front gate that says 'No, we're ok.'