immortal lydia : V

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:47 pm

Dos this happen with everyone or just me. Twice now lydia has died once to a load of trolls the other a dragon. Both times i leave her carry on. Then soon enough shes runnin towards me. Anyone else??

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:59 am

Not with me =S one time she died to a dragon and i couldn't find her~

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:38 pm

She hasn't died on me yet so not sure.

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:03 am

if she dies...try making a save and exiting the game. when you go back in she shouldn't respawn anymore.

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:15 am

if she dies...try making a save and exiting the game. when you go back in she shouldn't respawn anymore.

Thanx il give it a go.

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:35 am

all companions are extremely resilient to finishing blows. I'm not quite sure how this mechanic works, but I know that:
1) very few things will kill them outright. They have to get hit multiple times in the same instant for enemy NPCs to kill them. Any other time they 'almost' die, they'll just fall down and do some RP about being almost dead.
2) they are, however, very susceptible to friendly fire. If you miss a powerful attack and it accidentally hits your companion, expect to see her lifeless corpse getting punted down the hall.

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:55 am

According the the guide lydia cannot be killed by enemies, she will just get back up. However, YOU can kill her. I killed her with an accidental sword swipe in the middle of a battle. :unsure:

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:15 am

Not sure about this one. Normally I play female mages, but my 1st character in Skyrim is a male redguard spellsword. Lydia died when we were surprised by two spriggans questing in some grotto. She was indeed dead. I could "Search Lydia." My character has become so attached to her, that I reloaded. It never dawned on me that she could/would respawn. Sure would like to verify this, as well as know if it is possible to marry her. He wears the amulet and has received propositions from other characters. Lydia does not seem to be available. Very curious to know if she re-spawns, and has anyone successfully married her?

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:51 pm

According the the guide lydia cannot be killed by enemies, she will just get back up. However, YOU can kill her. I killed her with an accidental sword swipe in the middle of a battle. :unsure:

lydia...get up lydia....hey, what's that arrow sticking out of the back of your head for? :whistling:

thanks for the clarification, good to know.

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:14 pm

She's something of an indentured servant, yes? And she never really becomes fond of you, although she's friendly enough. I doubt lydia ever becomes interested in marriage.

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:22 pm

She took some heavy damage from an attack by two Ice Wolves but I had a Heal Other (forget the real name) spell and fixed her up. She's gone unconscious but she's still with me. She says funny things when she's fighting a dragon.

:tes:

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:44 pm

All Companions are essential*

If they're wounded to the point where they'd normall die, you'll see them drop to the ground in a kneeling position (out for the count) and the enemy NPCs will no longer target them. Your companion will then take a breather for ~10 seconds and then get back up on their feet with full health. The only way they can die, is if someone hits them while their down. Enemy NPCs will not do so on purpose, leaving their demise either as a result of you accidentally hitting them (I've done that a few times - had to reload a save), or if you're standing nearby and an enemy NPC accidentally strikes them while attempting to hit you.

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:47 pm

Lydia has already died on my twice (neither time my fault). The first was against krosis I went to shoot an arrow at him but he floats around so I missed him and saw lydia get launched off the mountain :mellow: . That was when I learned she wasnt immortal. The second time is right now I used that staff I got from krosis, I didnt see her behind this draugr (dont no the full name of the spellcaster one). Killed the zombie and went around the corner and saw her dead. :violin:

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:40 am

Dos this happen with everyone or just me. Twice now lydia has died once to a load of trolls the other a dragon. Both times i leave her carry on. Then soon enough shes runnin towards me. Anyone else??

Err...

Just to clear this up for everyone this is how essential and non-essential works in Skyrim based on my game experience thus far.

1. Essential targets cannot die like usual, they fall to they're knees and get back up 10 seconds or so later even if in combat. However any damage caused to an essential target by the PC while they are kneeling (low HP) WILL KILL THEM for good.
2. Non-essential targets die when their HP reaches 0 no matter who does the damage.

:lightbulb:

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:57 pm

She's something of an indentured servant, yes? And she never really becomes fond of you, although she's friendly enough. I doubt lydia ever becomes interested in marriage.

That sure is the way it seems. But, I also have the guide, and it indicates that she is indeed available for marriage. Becoming thane was supposed to be the only requirement listed. I will also have to search the guide for the part that says she is immortal. I hadn't read that, and don't have the guide with me now.

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:02 am

I've seen her die (not kneel... I've seen that too, but outright dead, and I could loot her body). However, shortly after she dies, I usually die too because she's my Tank, so I can't comment on the respawn.

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:17 am

If you find a truly immortal companion, you will know it because their health never goes down. I encountered one of these who was of the furry, four-legged variety.

1. Essential targets cannot die like usual, they fall to they're knees and get back up 10 seconds or so later even if in combat. However any damage caused to an essential target by the PC while they are kneeling (low HP) WILL KILL THEM for good.
2. Non-essential targets die when their HP reaches 0 no matter who does the damage.

I have also encountered these two types of NPCs; however, however, I would not classify the first as essential. And these NPCs can be killed when they are down by creatures or other NPCs (not only susceptible to friendly fire). My companion was killed by a troll when he had fallen to his knees.

There are a few other NPCs in this game that are truly essential, meaning it is impossible for them to be killed, and in at least one case, it looks like he does not take any damage whatsoever.

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:07 pm

Err...

Just to clear this up for everyone this is how essential and non-essential works in Skyrim based on my game experience thus far.

1. Essential targets cannot die like usual, they fall to they're knees and get back up 10 seconds or so later even if in combat. However any damage caused to an essential target by the PC while they are kneeling (low HP) WILL KILL THEM for good.
2. Non-essential targets die when their HP reaches 0 no matter who does the damage.

:lightbulb:

My findings confirm this, if she is down be very careful. If not it's no real danger.
Funny setting, we run into some mages at an destroyed fort, she went down fast and I took serious damage so I run out the door and healed up before going in 10 seconds later.
Now she was standing where and both mages was dead.

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:04 am

According to the guide, companions do not die, but you can accidentally kill them.
Accidents do happen especially if you are slinging fireballs or lightning bolts.

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:55 am

I kept Lydia alive by decking her out in the best heavy armor and arming her with only a bow. She has still gone down a few times, but I can always finish off whatever attacked her and then she gets back up.

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:29 am

my lydia died last night after an epic fight with some draugr. it was actually pretty cool how she died, she was on the ground and one of the draugr that can shout was aiming for me and finished her off. dragon shout to the face= dead lydia

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:43 am

If you find a truly immortal companion, you will know it because their health never goes down. I encountered one of these who was of the furry, four-legged variety.

I have also encountered these two types of NPCs; however, however, I would not classify the first as essential. And these NPCs can be killed when they are down by creatures or other NPCs (not only susceptible to friendly fire). My companion was killed by a troll when he had fallen to his knees.

There are a few other NPCs in this game that are truly essential, meaning it is impossible for them to be killed, and in at least one case, it looks like he does not take any damage whatsoever.

Thats why its so strange, Lydia is my archer and sometimes tank and even though she has fallen to her knees plenty of times shes never died unless I accidently did damage to her.

Maybe theirs 3 settings in Skyrim or its just a bug.

:mohawk:

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:40 am

She will be remembered!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhrvGwlmr9Q

In WATER!

» Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:18 am

..and the Sword of KINGS!

Shall RISE AGAIN!

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:21 pm

She just died in my arms tonight. It must have been something I said. She just died in my arms tonight. I keep looking for something I can't get. Broken hearts, they're all around me. And I don't see an easier way, to get out of this. Her diary sits by the bedside table. The curtains are closed, the cat's in the cradle. Who would have thought that a boy like me could come to this?