Industrialization in Skyrim?

Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:53 pm

What I really mean is, what kind of evidence would you like (technology wise) that 200 years have passed? What kinds of advancements over technology seen in Oblivion?
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:10 pm

God I hope not... I hated it when Fable brought guns into its games.
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:08 pm

None.
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:38 am

todd said that it would be much less developed in terms of technology
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:15 am

If one cared enough about the lore reasons rather than to just have advanced technology in Skyrim for gameplay then one would see that 200 years is a pitance compared to the thousands of years civilization has existed on Tamriel, and Why the Dwemer are a partial reminder as to why technology...advancements that is, is so stagnant.

technology already exists in TES, Mills, Windmills, Dams, Ships, Steams works (argonian Hist sap extractor in Oblivion) carriges, Cannons, Ballistae, lifts, pullies, all of this exists, gtfo out of here with wanting Guns <3 :P


the Province of Skyrim has been around for -AGES- what ever Bethesda is selling about Skyrim being rough rugged and backwards needs to take a backseat to actual Lore. unless there was a MASSIVE war that crippled the lands, theres no reason why Skyrim should be "backwards"

but we'll see :P
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:53 am

I would expect the main Nord culture of Skyrim to be somewhat inferior to Cyrodiil in terms of technology, despite 200 years passing. However there are other cultures in Skyrim which are influenced by other regions... maybe one of these could show a higher level of technology.
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:25 pm

It is a dark age, I don't think there's been any advancement, mostly just regression.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few innovations, or even *gasp* machines, but overall I think if people had magic at their disposal there wouldn't need to be a lot of technological advancement.
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:47 pm

There is a false misconception that time progression automatically equates to technological progression. This is not the case.
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:51 pm

If one cared enough about the lore reasons rather than to just have advanced technology in Skyrim for gameplay then one would see that 200 years is a pitance compared to the thousands of years civilization has existed on Tamriel, and Why the Dwemer are a partial reminder as to why technology...advancements that is, is so stagnant.

technology already exists in TES, Mills, Windmills, Dams, Ships, Steams works (argonian Hist sap extractor in Oblivion) carriges, Cannons, Ballistae, lifts, pullies, all of this exists, gtfo out of here with wanting Guns <3 :P


the Province of Skyrim has been around for -AGES- what ever Bethesda is selling about Skyrim being rough rugged and backwards needs to take a backseat to actual Lore. unless there was a MASSIVE war that crippled the lands, theres no reason why Skyrim should be "backwards"


but we'll see :P



One word: Amish

Many words: I call your words false. We already have examples of how cultures can be backwards in our own world. Also if you played Bloodmoon you would see that at least some Nordic tribes are very steeped in traditions and traditions can easily hold back scientific advances if they are extreme enough. Simply said Skyrim could have no technological evolution at all for years because of their ways, while the Cyrodiilic people who are more open to change and have fewer tradition and more varied culture could have many breakthroughs in a single year.

It is a dark age, I don't think there's been any advancement, mostly just regression.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few innovations, or even *gasp* machines, but overall I think if people had magic at their disposal there wouldn't need to be a lot of technological advancement.


Well a lot of the technology we make is made to make life easier. Magic is supposed to be harder in game than it is for the player, it′s not like the character is just pushing a button without feeling any sort of fatigue or anything like that. Not to mention some of the magic in game is more restrictive than the technology of today. I at least dare Divayth Fyr to match the destructive force of a nuclear blast with his strongest destruction spell.
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:30 am

...overall I think if people had magic at their disposal there wouldn't need to be a lot of technological advancement.


This.
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:18 pm

There doesnt seem to be technological advances from game to game. Skyrim will be conan-esq. Cyrodill was traditional fantasy. Morrowind was its own thing
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:10 pm

[satire]
Top 10 reasons why there should be obvious, in-your-face proof of massive technological advancement:

10: Everyone "just knows" techonology advances, and 200 years means big advancements, period. Look at all the inventions from 0 BCE to 200 BCE!

9: Because it's inconceivable that a fantasy setting in a nonexistent world would be anything but "just like Earth," except for maybe the beast races, magic, Daedra...

8: Progress is unstoppable...thus Skyrim should be covered in subdivisions, condeminiums, all waterfronts covered in tourist hotels and timeshares, etc.

7: Gotta keep up the economy to keep taxes flowing into the nobles' coffers, since they're so big on funding inventions and all.

6: Can't have a fantasy world getting stagnant, look at how many times LotR has been updated and modernized.

5: Gotta keep up with all those other games like Fable

4: Possible product tie-ins and merchandising. "Limited time only, get the same sunglasses preferred by the people of Windhelm!"

3: For better immersion!!!one!1!!

2: To replace some of the things "streamlined" out

And the number one reason to show technological advancement over time is:

1: Because the Dwemer could have invented it all!
[/satire] :D
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:20 pm

One word: Amish

Many words: I call your words false. We already have examples of how cultures can be backwards in our own world. Also if you played Bloodmoon you would see that at least some Nordic tribes are very steeped in traditions and traditions can easily hold back scientific advances if they are extreme enough. Simply said Skyrim could have no technological evolution at all for years because of their ways, while the Cyrodiilic people who are more open to change and have fewer tradition and more varied culture could have many breakthroughs in a single year.



Of course the Skaal tribes were backwards they were cut off from from the main population, Tamriel as a whole for centuries. Skyrim is not full of backward idiots, and if one read the lore, one would see that much of their peolpe are refined and sensible, they are one of the best Ship masters in all the continent so saying -amish- who impose on themselves their way of life doesnt apply here, Sky is a very active continent and puts their fingers in -everything- they have one of the most powerful Armies in all Tamriel and Took part in the toppling of several sovereign entities in Tamriel and actively gave Morrowind, Highrock and hammerfell hardtimes.


does that sound like a bunch of rock bangers to you? no they arent running around with cannons and rank and file legions, but to assume they are *backwards* is folly

and what exactly in my post needs to be called false? Im pretty sure I said something reasonable

unless there was a massive war that crippled infrastructure, theres no reason Skyrim needs to be "backwards or Rugged" aside from being dominated by Mountains....
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:00 pm

Short history
Dwemer tried to advance technology
[then something happened]
There are no Dwemer left

Other races made conclusions :D
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:44 pm

None. Absolutely none. TES is perfect in the technological age it is, its a magical, fantastical land, its technology does not need to realistically evolve.
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:47 pm

[satire]
Top 10 reasons why there should be obvious, in-your-face proof of massive technological advancement:

10: Everyone "just knows" techonology advances, and 200 years means big advancements, period. Look at all the inventions from 0 BCE to 200 BCE!

9: Because it's inconceivable that a fantasy setting in a nonexistent world would be anything but "just like Earth," except for maybe the beast races, magic, Daedra...

8: Progress is unstoppable...thus Skyrim should be covered in subdivisions, condeminiums, all waterfronts covered in tourist hotels and timeshares, etc.

7: Gotta keep up the economy to keep taxes flowing into the nobles' coffers, since they're so big on funding inventions and all.

6: Can't have a fantasy world getting stagnant, look at how many times LotR has been updated and modernized.

5: Gotta keep up with all those other games like Fable

4: Possible product tie-ins and merchandising. "Limited time only, get the same sunglasses preferred by the people of Windhelm!"

3: For better immersion!!!one!1!!

2: To replace some of the things "streamlined" out

And the number one reason to show technological advancement over time is:

1: Because the Dwemer could have invented it all!
[/satire] :D


lol, I didn't see the satire thingy at first, and was like "What is this guy talking about?! Idiot." lol. glad I caught those before saying that to you. :P
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:23 pm

hmmm... I don't think we'll see a whole lot of that. It's a solid idea, because it makes sense that technology would advance, but when you really think about it, technology (in the sense that you've got in mind) isn't really that necessary in a world with so much magic. I mean... Why build an automobile when you can teleport? (I realize that's a ridiculous example, but you see my point.)
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:04 am

[satire]
Top 10 reasons why there should be obvious, in-your-face proof of massive technological advancement:

10: Everyone "just knows" techonology advances, and 200 years means big advancements, period. Look at all the inventions from 0 BCE to 200 BCE!

9: Because it's inconceivable that a fantasy setting in a nonexistent world would be anything but "just like Earth," except for maybe the beast races, magic, Daedra...

8: Progress is unstoppable...thus Skyrim should be covered in subdivisions, condeminiums, all waterfronts covered in tourist hotels and timeshares, etc.

7: Gotta keep up the economy to keep taxes flowing into the nobles' coffers, since they're so big on funding inventions and all.

6: Can't have a fantasy world getting stagnant, look at how many times LotR has been updated and modernized.

5: Gotta keep up with all those other games like Fable

4: Possible product tie-ins and merchandising. "Limited time only, get the same sunglasses preferred by the people of Windhelm!"

3: For better immersion!!!one!1!!

2: To replace some of the things "streamlined" out

And the number one reason to show technological advancement over time is:

1: Because the Dwemer could have invented it all!
[/satire] :D

You have the best replies ever :D
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:44 pm

Seriously, why do people think that 200 years later = moar technologyz? It's been stated hundreds of times by Todd that Skyrim will have a more rugged/brutal feel to it than Oblivion.

Just look at Africa for example.


Of course. Africa has moar technologyz than anywhere else!
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:18 pm

[satire]
Top 10 reasons why there should be obvious, in-your-face proof of massive technological advancement:

10: Everyone "just knows" techonology advances, and 200 years means big advancements, period. Look at all the inventions from 0 BCE to 200 BCE!

9: Because it's inconceivable that a fantasy setting in a nonexistent world would be anything but "just like Earth," except for maybe the beast races, magic, Daedra...

8: Progress is unstoppable...thus Skyrim should be covered in subdivisions, condeminiums, all waterfronts covered in tourist hotels and timeshares, etc.

7: Gotta keep up the economy to keep taxes flowing into the nobles' coffers, since they're so big on funding inventions and all.

6: Can't have a fantasy world getting stagnant, look at how many times LotR has been updated and modernized.

5: Gotta keep up with all those other games like Fable

4: Possible product tie-ins and merchandising. "Limited time only, get the same sunglasses preferred by the people of Windhelm!"

3: For better immersion!!!one!1!!

2: To replace some of the things "streamlined" out

And the number one reason to show technological advancement over time is:

1: Because the Dwemer could have invented it all!
[/satire] :D


awwwww D:

:P
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:00 am

If it makes you feel better, Dwemer Ruins are back and they're as steampunk as ever.
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Post » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:41 am

was there industrialization in the dark ages? then no there wont be in skyrim.
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Post » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:18 pm

If it makes you feel better, Dwemer Ruins are back and they're as steampunk as ever.

ahh yes the dwemer truely amazing they mastered technology and enchanting . and even after 2300 years theyre weapons can still kill and there machines still function and there mechanical guardians are still slaying intrepid adventurers to this day.
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