Infinite Dragons..

Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:57 pm

Although, I do feel a bit saddened by the fact that an opportunity to create a set of genuinely (relatively) unique encounters is now brought down back to a mass of eventually (and undeniably) repetitive ones. Like the other poster said, though with the opposite intention from my point, there are infinite amount of other critters too -- so what, now, makes dragons any different or more "cool" than those in the long run?


They continue spawning indefinitely and there is an unlimited number of them that can play the game, but in order to encounter an "INFINITE" number of dragons you would have to continue playing Skyrim for an "INFINITE" period of time.

You can play the game for 500 hours, 1000 hours, 10,000 hours, you are still not going to run into an "Infinite" number of dragons.

Who knows how many you personally will encounter during your playthrough of 100, 200, or 300 hours. perhaps you will encounter 10, or 20 or 30 dragons during that time. The point about having an unlimited number of dragons just means you can keep playing the game as long as you want. As long as you want to hold off on finishing the main quest, there will still be some dragons appearing every once in a while. It absolutely does not mean that during your specific playthrough there would be double or triple the number of dragons you would have encountered otherwise.

Radiant Story even tracks how long its been since you encountered your last dragon, so you can be damn sure some specific dragons are going to be involved in Radiant Story quests.

Whenever you decide you want to send them back to hell or wherever they came from, you can complete the main quest and most likely they won't spawn anymore.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:21 am

I am having a lot of trouble understanding where you're coming from.

either
A. you want the dragons to stop spawning - in which case you finish the main quest up to the point where dragons disappear.

or

B. you want dragons to keep spawning - in which case you do not finish that step of the main quest until you're ready

So what the heck is the problem?


todd said there will be dragons are infinte, so they will spawn even after the main quest, when i get that right

so my problem is
if they always spawn, we will get bored of them fast there will be nothing special, or rare about them, because theyre always there. So why not make them more valuable in giving them a certain number after the main quest for example.
they will become more valuable and players finally get the feeling that something is changeing in the world. the world is freed from the threats of the dragon. People go out more and stuff
would also give the player a reason to play it another time
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:31 am

todd said there will be dragons are infinte, so they will spawn even after the main quest, when i get that right




I have never heard of any interview where anyone said that dragons will keep spawning after the main quest. The whole premise of the main quest, at least what we know from the prophecy is that the dragons have returned and are causing lots of problems, so we have to figure out why they are here and stop them, send them back or otherwise end the invasion.

If you want them to stop, I believe you just have to complete that step of the main quest that stops the dragon invasion.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:09 pm

When I first heard Skyrim would feature dragons, I was quite meh about the idea.. "Dragons ?.. wow.. original.."
But then I saw the screenshots.. (purposely have avoided all footage of the game so as to walk into Skyrim as blind as possible).. and I was like "That is.. actually quite impressive !"

And I was all like..

"The first time I meet a dragon.. its huge form will blot out the sun.. its tread will shake the foundations of the earth.. its fiery breath will char the skin from my bones.. it will grab me with its huge talons and drop me from a great height to my death on an icy precipice.."

But..

The fifth time I meet a dragon.. it will seem a little smaller.. a little quieter.. a little less :bolt:

The fifteenth time I meet a dragon..

I don't want to say it.. :nope:
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:36 am

(purposely have avoided all footage of the game so as to walk into Skyrim as blind as possible).


Interesting - so you haven't seen the gameplay trailer or any of the gameplay footage yet?

You are in for a real treat - the dragons are animated in a really cool manner and they have some interesting behaviors.

I don't think you will get bored even after your 20th or 30th dragon. Maybe after your 50th.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:04 am

i don't get why people are comparing dragons with Oblivion gates. do you seriously not understand the fundamental differences between a repetitive, boring dungeon crawl and an occasional random boss monster?

i also don't get why people are assuming anything at all about the main quest, or about the prolificacy of dragons just because Todd said "infinite dragons".

also honestly despite the Toddmode in the gameplay demos dragons struck me as something that could be genuinely intimidating. i really don't think they'll get especially dull anytime soon.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:17 am

Infinite dragons? HURRAY! One of the best news so far!

(I am not joking :nono: )
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:21 am

I have never heard of any interview where anyone said that dragons will keep spawning after the main quest. The whole premise of the main quest, at least what we know from the prophecy is that the dragons have returned and are causing lots of problems, so we have to figure out why they are here and stop them, send them back or otherwise end the invasion.

If you want them to stop, I believe you just have to complete that step of the main quest that stops the dragon invasion.


i hope so,
but it wouldnt make sense if he was just talking about dragons beeing infinte during main quest, because then i could kill every dragon during mq without doing a quest
i think when he was saying infinte he meant even after the mq.
but what do I know i dont have any insider knowledge so i have to wait untill its confirmed
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:07 am

Interesting - so you haven't seen the gameplay trailer or any of the gameplay footage yet?

You are in for a real treat - the dragons are animated in a really cool manner and they have some interesting behaviors.

I don't think you will get bored even after your 20th or 30th dragon. Maybe after your 50th.


Do you realise, BootySweat, just how hard it has been.. not to click that link ? Not to press play ?

But when I first walk out of the dungeon into the cold, crisp air of Skyrim, and see.... :ohmy:

it will have been totally worth it


We now return to our regularly scheduled infinite dragons rant..
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:48 am

it wouldnt make sense if he was just talking about dragons beeing infinte during main quest, because then i could kill every dragon during mq without doing a quest


Can you elaborate on this? I don't quite understand.


Do you realise, BootySweat, just how hard it has been.. not to click that link ? Not to press play ?

But when I first walk out of the dungeon into the cold, crisp air of Skyrim, and see.... :ohmy:

it will have been totally worth it


:lmao: I honestly can't tell if you are a masochist or a hedonist - in any case I'm sure you'll have a fun time on 11.11.11
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:54 am

Dragons aren't going to be like Oblivion Gates for many reasons.

Oblivion Gates were, due to the one or two dungeon designers in Oblivion, incredibly repetitive in design. They were also quite large, and thus took plenty of time even to speed run right through. Heaven help you if you needed a key as well to get to the tower, or had to trigger a set of switches. Dragons however are quite dynamic, and we still don't know a lot about them.

Oblivion Gates were used in nearly every freaking quest during the MQ. Close Kvatch, close one for every city that will give you aid, etc. I'm sure Bethesda has learned their lessons from this. Will we likely have a quest or two during the main about Dragons? Likely. Will every quest during the MQ require slaying a Dragon? Doubtful.

And if their strengths/capabilities are handled well enough, they'll still provide a fresh challenge unlike the meatshields of Oblivion.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:49 am

i don't like the idea of infinite dragons either since i can see how annoying it could get
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:32 am

The internal game code checks how long it has been since a dragon before it brings another one in.
That means that if you play more Skyrim than another person, you could see another 10 dragons (for example).

That doesnt sound infinite to me.....

.....kind of like their boast about radiant AI.

It never seems to happen.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:05 pm

I am having a lot of trouble understanding where you're coming from.

either
A. you want the dragons to stop spawning - in which case you finish the main quest up to the point where dragons disappear.

or

B. you want dragons to keep spawning - in which case you do not finish that step of the main quest until you're ready

So what the heck is the problem?


Good post as usual - I enjoy your work
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:42 am

:confused:


It is so, but don't worry. If you don't want dragons don't start the MQ.


or finish the MQ, already thought about it?
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Post » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:39 pm

It makes sense that the Dragons would continue to spawn until the invasion is stopped. If you dont stop the dragons then they would keep spawning as the mean populace of dragons decreased. That would mean once Alduin is defeated or appeased the dragon raids would diminish or end. That way there is closure.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:44 am

or finish the MQ, already thought about it?


What I have thought, and want to put out of my head, is after the Xth Oblivion Gate..

"I just want this main quest over so I never have to go into another one of these things again"

I don't want dragons to be the main reason I want to end the MQ.. I want DRAGONS to be the main reason I want to end the MQ :wink_smile:
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:10 am

I don't want dragons to be the main reason I want to end the MQ.. I want DRAGONS to be the main reason I want to end the MQ :wink_smile:


Come again?
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:16 am

Come again?



Said another way, I want dragons to be an essential judiciously-employed motivation to completing the main quest, as opposed to a ever-spawning distracting irritant compelling me to complete the main quest..
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:05 am

Said another way, I want dragons to be an essential judiciously-employed motivation to completing the main quest, as opposed to a ever-spawning distracting irritant compelling me to complete the main quest..


I agree :foodndrink:
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:03 am

Well, the difference between Oblivion Gates and dragons i s this: Oblivion gates are...boring, while dragons are awesome and fun to kill:)
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:38 am

Please, Bethesda, say it isn't so... :obliviongate:


Cause having dragons for a few hours, then gone is good?.. :facepalm:
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:29 am

As was said earlier, a dragon will just be a (suposedly challengin) fight. Oblivion gates were a long trip to the sigil stone.
However, you could just avoid OB gates, save for the ones involved in the main quest, when in Skyrim, dragons can just attack you out of nowhere.
This could be a problem when you want to make a non-warrior playthrough and intend NOT to do the MQ.


Edit : of course, it wouldn't be a problem if Dragons don't appear if you don't start the MQ.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:49 pm

Dragons are here to stay, they will be around after the MQ because BS won't leave dragons out of TES 6
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:57 am

Seems I get to use this more than I thought I would: http://gabriel77cortez.deviantart.com/art/Dovakhiin-216150142
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