Infinite Dragons..

Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:31 am

Please, Bethesda, say it isn't so... :obliviongate:
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Post » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:56 pm

:confused:


It is so, but don't worry. If you don't want dragons don't start the MQ.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:03 am

:confused:


It is so, but don't worry. If you don't want dragons don't start the MQ.


Who says it is so? Can you give me the link.

I would love it to be so... until you stop Alduin. Having constant dragon threats keeps you important in the eyes of the people when they start to realise you're the dragon culler.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:56 am

:confused:


It is so, but don't worry. If you don't want dragons don't start the MQ.


... really, Bethesda ?
REALLY ?!! ..

I'm not a prolific poster by any measure, but I just had to comment when I read about the possibility (please please please not a certaintly) of infinite dragons..

..surely I don't have to remind you guys of the many many many complaints post-oblivion re the gates ?

I just don't understand how .. when you sat down at the dev table that morning.. and "someone" came up with this idea.. an intern didnt immediately point out the disappointment that were the Oblivion gates..

For those who may not have played OB.. the first gate was tense.. the second, ok..
the fifteenth... :snoring:

I want dragons that are mysterious, awe-inspiring and beyond good or evil... and destined for extinction by the coming of the Dovakhiin
CLIFFRACERS IN MY SKYRIM !! :banghead:
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:13 am

... really, Bethesda ?
REALLY ?!! ..

I'm not a prolific poster by any measure, but I just had to comment when I read about the possibility (please please please not a certaintly) of infinite dragons..

..surely I don't have to remind you guys of the many many many complaints post-oblivion re the gates ?

I just don't understand how .. when you sat down at the dev table that morning.. and "someone" came up with this idea.. an intern didnt immediately point out the disappointment that were the Oblivion gates..

For those who may not have played OB.. the first gate was tense.. the second, ok..
the fifteenth... :snoring:

I want dragons that are mysterious, awe-inspiring and beyond good or evil... and destined for extinction by the coming of the Dovakhiin
CLIFFRACERS IN MY SKYRIM !! :banghead:


There would be an issue if after the 70th dragon... they just stopped leaving only Alduin to be confronted. Id keep killing dragons for the love of it, but if they are limited in population... Id feel bad. Seeing them fly in skyrim would be a nice touch to the scenery like wildlife.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:09 pm

I think it makes sense. There could be thousands of invading dragons, and they won't stop invading until you've killed their leader. Just don't make them all that common. But Todd said the Radiant Story system would ensure that if you've encountered a dragon not long ago, the game will see to it that you wont meet another one again too soon.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:51 pm

Who says it is so? Can you give me the link.



It's been confirmed in numerous interviews. I'll look for a llink to one of them for you.

personally when we first heard about this back in January or February, I was really happy to hear it, because it's good news for those of us who enjoy super long marathon playthroughs of 400-500+ hours for a single character.

I think they will probably stop after you complete the main quest (as was the case with the Oblivion gates), but I never complete the main quest until I'm ready to retire the character and finish the game.


I'm not a prolific poster by any measure, but I just had to comment when I read about the possibility (please please please not a certaintly) of infinite dragons..



This was already 100% confirmed a long time ago. Old news.

If dragons didn't keep re-spawning what do you expect would happen for people who play the game a really long time? the dragons would just stop appearing?
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:52 am

i want dragons

I want to kill them with my hands and no armor
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:11 pm


If dragons didn't keep re-spawning what do you expect would happen for people who play the game a really long time? the dragons would just stop appearing?


Set them up so strong that you can't kill most of them until later in the game when you're strong enough, or that due to circumstances in the MQ a few more appears as you progress. The dragons are closely linked to the storyline, so it'd make sense that as it progresses it causes more to appear as the alleged end of the world nears.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:25 am

I think it would be cool when after the main quest there are only a couple of dragons hiding somwhere.
The people in Skyrim arent that much afraid of dragons anymore so alot of people go out to hunt the last 10 dragons, or so
dragons would become more valuable

i can only remember in oblivion. Later on i hated to see oblivion gates i always tried to avoid them.
when i saw them even after the main quest iwas like: :cryvaultboy: :sadvaultboy: :flamethrower:

it was always the same:
quest 1 destroy the gate, before town x.
quest 2 destroy the gate in location x.
quest 3 there are 10 oblivion gates go destroy them
quest 4 destroy the gate, before town x.

there was nothing special about it anymore
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:06 am

..surely I don't have to remind you guys of the many many many complaints post-oblivion re the gates ?

Difference is, the Oblivion gates were repetitve and annoying. They were everywhere, messing up the landscape and weather, and the Oblivion realms weren't very fun to do. Dragons are a lot more dynamic. You won't run into one every 50 feet, they'll have altering attack patterns, and they can even fly away from battle if they decide they don't want to fight you. They'll be a lot quicker to handle, too.

I hope the dragons don't disappear after the main quest. I'd still like to occasionally encounter them afterward.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:17 am

Why the hell would you object to having unlimited dragons? And this is "infinite" only in the sense that the encounters never run out -- it doesn't have an effect on any individual battle with a dragon, for crying out loud.

Do you really want the best part of the game just to run out when it could so easily be carried on? :nono:

Oh, and by the way. There are also infinite wolves, ice wraiths, trolls, and basically all other forms of life. Would you rather Bethesda made their numbers limited, so you could reduce Skyrim to a lifeless uninhabited tundra?
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:41 am

i want dragons

I want to kill them with my hands and no armor


Pre-release, fans and journos alike were raving about the badass Oblivion Gates.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pE8tStMX-Y&feature=related .. approx. 7:40 in

6 months post-release, posters complaining that the continuously spawning gates were so :swear: they were TCL ing their way to the Sigil Sanctums..

:nope:
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:06 am

Set them up so strong that you can't kill most of them until later in the game when you're strong enough, or that due to circumstances in the MQ a few more appears as you progress. The dragons are closely linked to the storyline, so it'd make sense that as it progresses it causes more to appear as the alleged end of the world nears.


I'm probably not going to even touch the main quest until after I'm ready to end the game, around 300-400 hours into the playthrough.

Other people might immediately rush to complete the main quest and finish the entire game in 30 hours.

The game has to be able to accomodate both approaches. I think the way it will work is at a certain point in the main quest, you figure out why the dragons are appearing and you do something to make them all leave (like kill Alduin, for instance). After that point there won't be any more dragons. Up until that point, however, dragons will continue to spawn infinitely.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:48 pm

I hope they at least become all friendly after the mainquest. That way you can kill them if you want to but they won't bother you.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:06 am

I like that they are infinite, as I wouldn't want to suddenly stop fighting them.

Infinite does not mean frequent.

Oblivion gates were frequent, so you stopped bothering with them.

Hopely dragons aren't frequent. Only appearing every few hours, and even then they should be easily avoidable.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:18 am

I'm probably not going to even touch the main quest until after I'm ready to end the game, around 300-400 hours into the playthrough.

Other people might immediately rush to complete the main quest and finish the entire game in 30 hours.

The game has to be able to accomodate both approaches. I think the way it will work is at a certain point in the main quest, you figure out why the dragons are appearing and you do something to make them all leave (like kill Alduin, for instance). After that point there won't be any more dragons. Up until that point, however, dragons will continue to spawn infinitely.


That could be.

Although, I do feel a bit saddened by the fact that an opportunity to create a set of genuinely (relatively) unique encounters is now brought down back to a mass of eventually (and undeniably) repetitive ones. Like the other poster said, though with the opposite intention from my point, there are infinite amount of other critters too -- so what, now, makes dragons any different or more "cool" than those in the long run?
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:25 am

Why the hell would you object to having unlimited dragons? And this is "infinite" only in the sense that the encounters never run out -- it doesn't have an effect on any individual battle with a dragon, for crying out loud.

Do you really want the best part of the game just to run out when it could so easily be carried on? :nono:

Oh, and by the way. There are also infinite wolves, ice wraiths, trolls, and basically all other forms of life. Would you rather Bethesda made their numbers limited, so you could reduce Skyrim to a lifeless uninhabited tundra?


Shadow of the Colossus.. the Colossi are huge, mysterious, implacable beings..
Spoiler
and they are not infinite..
thats what makes them.. memorable.. as you defeat them, each ensuing victory becomes bittersweet as you realise they, like any great story.. have an ending
.. -_-
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:09 am

Who says it is so? Can you give me the link.

I would love it to be so... until you stop Alduin. Having constant dragon threats keeps you important in the eyes of the people when they start to realise you're the dragon culler.


they have said it multiple times just go look for your self,

I see no problem with it until you might have gotten all the shouts and your still killing dragons
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:12 am

It's been confirmed in numerous interviews. I'll look for a llink to one of them for you.

personally when we first heard about this back in January or February, I was really happy to hear it, because it's good news for those of us who enjoy super long marathon playthroughs of 400-500+ hours for a single character.

If dragons didn't keep re-spawning what do you expect would happen for people who play the game a really long time? the dragons would just stop appearing?


Thanks. Because I remember hearing that there were X amount of dragons... but that could be X amount of dragons at any one time in Skyrim. X was around 70 I think. Im not sure.

I think it would be cool when after the main quest there are only a couple of dragons hiding somwhere.
The people in Skyrim arent that much afraid of dragons anymore so alot of people go out to hunt the last 10 dragons, or so
dragons would become more valuable


That would make sense, but cant we just let them breed up their numbers again and culling dragons could be a rite of passage for Nords becoming advlts.

Oh, and by the way. There are also infinite wolves, ice wraiths, trolls, and basically all other forms of life. Would you rather Bethesda made their numbers limited, so you could reduce Skyrim to a lifeless uninhabited tundra?


That would be horrible... I remember in Oblivion how it felt like there were only trees and daedra... it was horrible. My deer herds had vanished.

What I want to know is WHERE are the dragons coming from? Another dimension, from the mountains where they sleep? The game trailer showed one waking up and coming off a stone edifice... does that mean they are in the icy mountains embedded in the cliff faces?
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:26 am

.

I hope the dragons don't disappear after the main quest. I'd still like to occasionally encounter them afterward.


this is you talking before the release!
but i bet you wont talk like that 1 year after

we will become bored of fighting them its just a matter of time
if there there is a infinte number of them they become worthless after time

they can only stay special if there is a certain number after the main quest, or vanish completly
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:27 pm

Shadow of the Colossus.. the Colossi are huge, mysterious, implacable beings..
Spoiler
and they are not infinite..
thats what makes them.. memorable.. as you defeat them, each ensuing victory becomes bittersweet as you realise they, like any great story.. have an ending
.. -_-


and yet SoC is not game anything like Skyrim. :facepalm:
Skyrim does have its MQ and special monsters you only see once so if your up for it go play the MQ
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:34 am

this is you talking before the release!
but i bet you wont talk like that 1 year after

we will become bored of fighting them its just a matter of time
if there there is a infinte number of them they become worthless after time

they can only stay special if there is a certain number after the main quest, or vanish completly


I am having a lot of trouble understanding where you're coming from.

either
A. you want the dragons to stop spawning - in which case you finish the main quest up to the point where dragons disappear.

or

B. you want dragons to keep spawning - in which case you do not finish that step of the main quest until you're ready

So what the heck is the problem?
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:50 am

Yes i want infinite dragons when im tired of killing dragons ill be tired of killing bandits and trolls and everything else in the game and ill turn it off.But im not expecting that to happen quickly and if im not in the mood to slay a dragon or on my way some where else and dont want the encounter ill run ill hide ill invis .Not every dragon you see will be chargeing right for you i want to look around and see them flying sitting on ancient ruins or cliffs .I dont want to make them extinct in skyrim.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:22 am

Dragons will be nothing like Oblivion gates. They're more like super-powerful mobs/boss things.
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