Installing WAC with FCOM-UL-BC : IV

» Tue May 24, 2016 3:22 pm

Hi everybody,

As the title says, I would like to install WAC: Waalx Animals & Creatures to my Oblivion setup.

I have a heavily modded Oblivion (FCOM convergence, Better Cities, Unique landscape ...) which works very well and is stable.

So I guess WAC will not be entirely compatible with my load order. In fact, what I would like is to have the WAC creatures and animals added to my leveling lists while maintaining maximum compatibility with my other mods.

I did some searches and I found that I should not use the WAC.esp (which, if I understand well, adds spawn points to the game, modify the landscape ...) but only use the WAC - Overspawn.esp which reworks the Vanilla levelling lists. And then change the name of the WAC.bsa in order to load it.

Also, I found a lot of plugins, so I don't really know what I should install and what I should not (and my esp slots are limited ^^)

Here is my load order :

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Active Mod Files:

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00 oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3.1]
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73]
05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
06 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
08 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
09 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
0A Artifacts.esm
0B FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0C RealisticLeveling.esm
0D Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 6.0.6]
0E Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm [Version 3.0b]
0F HorseCombatMaster.esm
10 Demolish System - Core.esm
11 Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm
** TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
** TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp
12 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.7]
13 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
14 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.4]
15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
17 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
18 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
19 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1A Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
++ LoadingScreens.esp
1B Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
1C All Natural.esp [Version 1.3.1]
1D All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3]
++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3]
1E Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1]
1F Better Bell Sounds.esp
++ Symphony of Violence.esp
20 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
21 OblivionReloaded.esp
++ OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp
22 MIS.esp
23 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
24 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1]
25 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3]
26 Chapel Tithe.esp
27 drifting seeds.esp
28 ImprovedSigns.esp
29 Camping.esp
2A Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp
2B Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]
2C DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]
2D kuerteeCleanUp.esp
2E Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2]
2F Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]
30 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.1]
31 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5]
32 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3.1]
33 DLCHorseArmor.esp
34 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
35 DLCOrrery.esp
36 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
37 DLCVileLair.esp
38 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
** Lair_mobs.esp
39 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
3A DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
** Mehrunes_mobs.esp
3B DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
++ Mass Outfit Redesign.esp
3C DLCThievesDen.esp
3D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]
** Thievesden_mobs.esp
3E Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]
3F Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
40 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
41 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
42 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
43 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
44 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]
45 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
++ Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0]
46 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
47 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
48 WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0bMMMorFCOM.esp
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
49 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
4A Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
4B Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4C Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4F Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp [Version 0.91]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.40Alpha]
50 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
51 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]
52 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
** FCOM_Archery.esp
** FCOM_Archery_RealSwords.esp
++ FCOM_Archery_MMM_H&C.esp
** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
53 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FineWeapons for OOO.esp
** RustyItems for OOO.esp
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.73]
54 Hemingweys Capes Improved for FCOM.esp [Version 3.0b]
++ Hemingweys FCOM NPC Capes Improved IC Guards.esp [Version 3.0b]
++ Hemingweys Capes for FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 3.0b]
55 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
56 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
57 DLCFrostcrag.esp
58 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
59 DLCFrostcragReborn.esp
5A Knights.esp
5B Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]
5C SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp [Version 1.30]
5D Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
5E Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
++ FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9]
5F Lush & Gaudy Damn Greens.esp
60 Lush & Gaudy Damn Greens GC CH Tree Cull 5.esp
++ Lush & Gaudy FG.esp
61 Lush & Gaudy Give Me Some Moor Trees.esp
62 BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.1.2]
63 MannimarcoRevisited.esp
64 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]
65 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.7a]
66 DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
67 The Lost Spires.esp
++ The Lost Spires v14 Delayer.esp [Version 3.1]
68 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
69 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4.1]
6A WAC - TCOS.esp
++ WAC - TCOS FCOM.esp
6B WAC - OverSpawn.esp
6C WAC - Cat Crash Fix.esp
++ WAC - Iron ShieldFix.esp
6D WAC - OverSpawn4v1.0bFCOM.esp
++ WAC - WeaponNoScriptMOBS.esp
6E WAC - Birds&Insects.esp
6F AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.32.COBL]
70 Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
71 Faregyl.esp [Version 2.0.11]
72 Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.13]
73 Molapi.esp [Version 1.0.1]
74 Reedstand.esp [Version 1.0.4]
75 Urasek.esp [Version 1.0.4]
76 HESU PoisonSwamp.esp
77 HESU GnollMountain.esp
78 DLCFrostcrag-GnollMountain Patch.esp
79 HESU AppleHotSprings.esp
7A HESU GreatForestGorge.esp
7B HESU SkyrimTemple.esp
7C HESU HellLands.esp
7D HESU ValenwoodMine.esp
7E HESU Shipton.esp
7F OOO-Shipton Patch.esp
80 Frostcrag Village.esp [Version 1.0.7]
81 GnollMountain-FrostcragVillage Patch.esp
82 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
83 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
84 xulTheHeath.esp
85 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1]
86 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
87 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
88 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2]
89 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5]
8A xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.5]
8B xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.3]
8C GreatForestGorge-LushWoodlands Patch.esp
8D xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4]
8E xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
8F xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
90 HellLands-Cloudtop Patch.esp
91 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4]
92 AFK_Weye Arrius_Creek Patch.esp
93 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
94 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]
95 xulPantherRiver.esp
96 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
97 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1]
98 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
99 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2]
9A xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8]
9B xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.1]
9C PoisonSwamp-BlackwoodForest Patch.esp
9D xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.3]
9E xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.6]
9F Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]
A0 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.1]
A1 SkyrimTemple-Snowdale Patch.esp
A2 GnollMountain-Snowdale Patch.esp
A3 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.1.3]
A4 OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.2]
A5 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.4]
A6 Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
A7 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.2]
A8 SkyrimTemple-JerallGlacier Patch.esp
A9 OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp [Version 1.0]
AA xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.2]
AB Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
AC Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Real Lava 1.3.esp
AD Elz - No Floating Weapon.esp
AE Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
AF Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.32 DT.esp
B0 kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp
B1 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
B2 kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp
B3 Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp
B4 Skill Perk Descriptions.esp [Version 1.1]
B5 Better Dungeons.esp
B6 SnusDungeons.esp
B7 SnusDungeons - BD patch.esp
B8 SnusDungeons - OOO patch.esp
B9 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]
BA Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 5.4.3]
BB SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp [Version 2.6]
BC NoHealingDuringWait.esp
BD Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp
BE SM Combat Hide.esp [Version 1.2]
BF ChaseCameraMod.esp
C0 sycHearNoEvil.esp [Version 1.0]
C1 Personality Idles - Modified version.esp [Version 1.3]
C2 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]
C3 VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
++ VCEClassOverhaul.esp
C4 MidasSpells.esp
C5 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]
C6 Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp [Version 7.1]
C7 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
C8 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
C9 SM_MERGED.esp [Version 0.90]
++ DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp
** Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp
** Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp
** Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78]
CA Kaleencolors.esp
CB Ravens and Seagulls.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
CC kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp
CD Populated Prisons.esp [Version 1.2]
CE No psychic guards v1.2.esp
CF EnchantmentRestore.esp
++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
D0 Falling Leaves.esp [Version 1.0]
D1 Falling Leaves - UL LushWoodlands Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
D2 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
D3 Artifacts.esp
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
D4 RoadLights.esp
D5 BettysAnimalPlanet.esp
D6 OOOShiveringIsles.esp
++ OOOSI-EyeDisabler.esp
D7 OOOSI-Map MarkerOverhaul SI-patch.esp
D8 atmospheres.esp
++ Atmospheres4HaH-NightPatch.esp
D9 PAWindmills.esp
DA RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.7]
DB Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp [Version 3.1]
DC Ducks and Swans.esp
DD Glenmoril Covens.esp
DE Gottshaw Village.esp [Version 1.0.1]
DF QZ Easy Menus.esp
E0 FlyingCameraMod.esp [Version 1.3]
E1 MigMiscellanea.esp [Version 1.82]
E2 OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp
E3 BrumasNorthernLights.esp
++ Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
E4 WindowLightingSystem.esp
E5 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.3]
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.3]
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78]
E6 Demolish System - Special Moves.esp
E7 Better Cities .esp [Version 6.0.5]
E8 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 6.0.6]
E9 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 6.0.0]
EA Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 6.0.4]
EB Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 6.0.4]
EC xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp
ED Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 6.0.4]
EE Better Cities Full - OOO.esp [Version 6.0.6]
++ FCOM_BetterCities-Bravil.esp [Version 6.0.6]
++ Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 6.0.4]
EF Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 6.0.2]
F0 GnollMountain-BC6 Patch.esp
F1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
F2 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]
F3 Better Cities - House Price Patch.esp [Version 6.0.0]
F4 BC_UL_PR_II_CF_SO_Snowdale_Barrowfileds.esp [Version 1.5]
F5 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 6.0.6]
F6 Better Imperial City - OOO.esp [Version 6.0.6]
F7 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 6.0.0]

I already added some WAC plugins for testing.

I found on the net a WAC version for FCOM and here are the plugins I have for this mod:

Esp/m List for WAC for FCOM (1).zip:

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** Waalx Animals && Creatures.esm

** WAC - Birds&&Insects.esp

** WAC - BlackBootDungeon.esp

** WAC - Cat Crash Fix.esp

WAC - Companions.esp

WAC - Crowded Roads Revisited Fix4v1.0b.esp

WAC - Crowded Roads Revisited.esp

WAC - Dead Knights Fix.esp

WAC - Dead Knights.esp

WAC - Druid_HealingFix.esp

WAC - Elsweyr Anequina.esp

WAC - Gargoyles Fix.esp

WAC - Gladiator.esp

WAC - Horses.esp

** WAC - Iron ShieldFix.esp

** WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0bMMMorFCOM.esp

WAC - Magic.esp

** WAC - OverSpawn.esp

** WAC - OverSpawn4v1.0bFCOM.esp

WAC - Player Summons.esp

WAC - Player Summons_Fix.esp

** WAC - WeaponNoScriptMOBS.esp

I also have the original plugins:

Esp/m List for WAC Beta.7z:

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Waalx Animals && Creatures.esm

WAC - 8th Gate.esp

WAC - Birds&&Insects.esp

WAC - BlackBootDungeon.esp

WAC - Companions.esp

WAC - Crowded Roads Revisited.esp

WAC - Dead Knights.esp

WAC - Gladiator.esp

WAC - Horses.esp

WAC - Legion.esp

WAC - Magic.esp

WAC - OverSpawn.esp

WAC - Player Summons.esp

WAC - TCOS Shops.esp

WAC - TCOS.esp

WAC.esp

And I found on the nexus plugins to make FCOM and WAC compatible (I sent a message to the author to ask for clarification) :

Esp/m List for WAC FCOM Compatibility patch-46668-0-4.rar:

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** WAC - FCOM.esp

** WAC - TCOS FCOM.esp

** WAC - Weapon and Armor Tweak MOBS.esp

This mod is old, some patches made by russian and japanese people, and they are so many plugins I don't know what is worth adding or not.

If someone knows this mod very well and can help me in the choice of plugins in order to make it compatible with my load order, I would be very happy.

Thanks

» Wed May 25, 2016 2:03 am

I am the guy who repackaged WAC to work better with FCOM. That was a few months ago. Since then, I've done a little more work.

1. I believe the ironshieldfix is redundant if you use itemlootfix.

2. Don't import "stats" from overspawn or itemlootfix. These will override OOO values.

3. Itemlootfix does not cover arrow MOBS. Use it.

4. Use Maskars on top of all this.

I'll look into the WAC - FCOM patch. It's reliant on WAC.esp, which I don't use because of UL incompatibility and it adds things I don't really want.

» Wed May 25, 2016 3:50 am

Thank you very much millysoose !

So the package I use comes from you

These are the plugins I have now in my load order:

48 WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0bMMMorFCOM.esp

...

6A WAC - TCOS.esp

++ WAC - TCOS FCOM.esp

6B WAC - OverSpawn.esp

6C WAC - Cat Crash Fix.esp

++ WAC - Iron ShieldFix.esp

6D WAC - OverSpawn4v1.0bFCOM.esp

++ WAC - WeaponNoScriptMOBS.esp

6E WAC - Birds&Insects.esp

I have been able to see some new creatures and no CTD, so it is a good start ^^

Will follow your advices, I will not import the "Actors.Stats" from Overspawn and and ItemLoot esp.

I will also remove ironshieldfix and search for arrow MOBS.

Should I use TCOS.esp ? This plugins was not in your "WAC for FCOM" package. But looking at the author's description, it seems to be a big part of WAC.

I don't plan to use Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul (for some reason I can't make MOO work correctly with my load order).

Is there another solution ? Will it be OK if I add WAC to my levelled lists with Wrye Bash ?

» Tue May 24, 2016 12:19 pm

TCOS stands for The Chronicles of Steel. I don't remember what it does, but you can use it. However, if it interacts with realswords, then do not use FCOM - Realswords.

You should be able to use Maskars overhaul with any installation. Ask Maskar for help. You're other solution is to install an older version of Wrye Bash (v295) and use Dynamic Leveled Lists. I don't recommend this.

» Tue May 24, 2016 2:44 pm

I will try again installing MOO (in fact i use obse 020 and MOO needs obse 021, but updating obse seems to affect my performance ... weird).

But why Maskar Overhaul is needed for WAC ?

Thanks again.

» Tue May 24, 2016 7:21 pm

Maskars seems to integrate the leveled lists from WAC and create a more consistent experience. You should ask Maskar for details.

» Wed May 25, 2016 3:32 am

I installed Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul and configured it, it seems to work fine with FCOM. I also removed the TCOS.esp to ensure maximum compatibiltiy with the rest of my mods.

Concerning the WAC esp, I have now:

48 WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0bMMMorFCOM.esp

...

6B WAC - OverSpawn.esp

6C WAC - Cat Crash Fix.esp

6D WAC - OverSpawn4v1.0bFCOM.esp

++ WAC - WeaponNoScriptMOBS.esp

6E WAC - Birds&Insects.esp

I imported the WAC esps in the bashed patch (except the stats). itemlootfix and overspawn are now added to the levelled list.

MOO is loaded at the end after my bashed patch.

I am going to test how the combination FCOM+MOO+WACoverspawn works

Is there anything else I should do, add or remove ?

And concerning the load order : do these esp have to be in a specific position compared to the FCOM esp ?

» Wed May 25, 2016 2:06 am

Make sure that Maskar's mod is last in your list, even below your Bashed Patch. Millysoose is the expert when it comes to ordering WAC and FCOM.

» Wed May 25, 2016 2:44 am

Thanks for the advice, Pseron Wyrd. That's what Maskar advised me to do too.

I played a few hours with FCOM + MOO + WAC (with the esps of my last post). No CTDs, good FPS. I am very suprised of the stability of my setup with all these overhaul put together ^^

I met new animals and creatures (and even giants, probably from WAC) every minute of my game. For the moment I am happy of the result, but I am not sure at 100% that WAC is installed correctly and does not break other things.

I currently try to add WAC - TCOS.esp to my load order. It seems to be a big part of WAC:

"The sum of RealSwords, this esp is the thing in the overhaul that does NPC changes. Weapons, Mages Robes, Armors, Beards, clothes (later). This will conflict with anything that modify vanilla NPC. Yet it's one big part of WAC. TCOS is a very big part of WAC."

WAC.bsa is pretty big, so I would like to use the maximum of it on my game, not only a small part ^^

I found on the net load orders with FCOM+WAC, and WAC.esp were loaded after FCOM convergence.esp. I am going to do the same.

Do I need additional esp in order to make TCOS.esp work with FCOM and the rest of my mods ?

I will use : ** WAC - TCOS FCOM.esp,

which requires OOO, MMM, FCOM convergence and Waalx master files. (even if I don't know precisely what it does ...)

I found it here : http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/46668/?

I continue testing all of this.