Not all intel chip sets are svcky and I know Fall out 3 doesn't work with them which angers me - but on the topic of oblivion and skyrim - I have a Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family which runs oblivion at the highest settings (although i turn off grass cause it looks ugly).

So with that said do we have any indication as to weather SR will follow FO3 and not work on intel chip sets?

As far as I know, we haven't had any technical mumbo-jumbo confirmed yet

Not Fall out 3 its Fallout 3. Ok anyway? huh wtf are you trying to say? I may just be retarted (high possiblity of that even with a 180 IQ (wich is never usesd)) but I have no idea what your trying to say.

And I have no idea what you're trying to say.


Intel will probably work with Skyrim. I wouldn't worry about it until Skyrim comes out or until someone is announced.

What I am trying to say is for those of us who game on laptops we use mobile chip sets instead of actual graphics cards (some not all of use mobile chip sets) and a large portion of these are made by intel. Fallout 3 does not allow intel chip sets used by laptops to run the game and thus the game won't work. My assumption is because they think such sets are of pure sh*t.

On that note i run oblivion on such a chip set at max for everything but grass because I hate the grass in oblivion. So my question is - would skyrim follow fallout3 in the order of "no chip sets" or can we assume they will support such devices?

I also ask this because in my mind its [censored] (and I havent) to preorder a game that doeskin even have the specs out - understanding that's its only the beginning of summer.

Your GPU has a hell of a lot more to do with this than the brand of CPU, don't you think?

I'm pretty sure if you are running any recent Intel or AMD quad core it's likely going to be the video card that is the bottleneck unless you have an insane high end card.





Even if you are gaming on a laptop with a horrible CPU, I highly doubt there are any such laptops in existence that are paired with decent laptop video card. So in almost any configuration conceivable for gaming on laptop it is going to be your video card, not the CPU that is the bottleneck.

Minimum video card to get playable 1080p frame rates on a laptop is the NVIDIA 460m, 555m or AMD 5830m. I don't think you will ever see any laptop with one of these cards or better paired with, for example, an Atom processor, etc.

EDIT: OK after re-reading your post more carefully, I think you are trying to say that your graphics card is the integrated Intel HD Graphics. If this is the case then no, you will not be able to get decent frame rate for Skyrim unless you dial your detail settings down to "low" and possibly reduce the screen resolution to 1280x720, 1024x768 or 800x600


cheapest option is to build a gaming desktop from components and buy a separate non-gaming laptop. the total cost will be cheaper than a gaming laptop.

if you have to go with a gaming laptop for portability reasons then I would make sure about the following criteria:

• Display resolution no lower than 1600x900. 1920x1080 display is ideal.
  
  
• Minimum level of GPU needed to deliver decent frame rates for recent games at 1920x1080 resolution is 1GB NVIDIA 460m, 555m or AMD 5830m. Get one with video card at least equal or better than this.
  
  
• try to get quad core Sandy Bridge CPU if possible

If you are considering any laptop with display of 1600x900, you might consider dropping your video card requirements down a step or two from the 460m, to the NVIDIA 555m, or something similar. Personally I would not recommend any gaming on a 1366x768 display or worse, simply because you would be missing out on a huge part of the visual experience of recent games.

Integrated graphics are the bottom of the rung. They generally aren't meant for graphically intense games. I don't consider fallout 3 intense, so why it's not supported I don't know? It may have to do with the game requiring a specific shader model that the 4 series doesn't support, or it was just a decision of not supporting to cut back on "WTF is they game so laggy etc etc" posts /support calls. Your guess is as good as mine.

Tbh, if they didn't support your integrated graphics then, they won't now. How old is the 4 chipset? Check it's supported shader model(ie 3.0, 4.0) against fallout and oblivions shader model requirements. If that's not the problem email support specifically about why it's not supported for fallout 3(or try googling it). Hope you find a suitable answer to your problem/question.

Edit: find out the exact name of your integrated graphics. I did some googling and mobile intel 4 series express chipset family is just the name of the general "family" of this type of integrated chipsets. It's not the exact name of your model, there's actually a few different ones that fall under that "family".

You should be happy to even be playing FO3 on an integrated LAPTOP card. That's doubly bad. Skyrim won't support it because it would run like a slideshow at best; at worse, it wouldn't even load up properly due to the lack of architecture in those cards.

You read the op wrong, fallout 3 does NOT run. It's not supported by the game.

I have not had problems with games Like Guild wars, Dragon Age and Oblivion running on my current chip set with everything set to high. (except as stated in oblivion i turn off the grass - its fugly)
hell I can even run crysis and crysis two (mind you on medium not high) on my current machine.

So I cant see why intel gets the rap on specific games or if it will for this one.

It's not a problem with your chipset. The chipset refers to your motherboard.

Not a problem with Intel processors. Intel CPUs are higher rated than AMD CPUs clock for clock and core for core in several ways.

The problem is your graphics card, which is the integrated Intel HD Graphics. The Intel HD3000 is a bit better, but if I understand your post correctly, you have the older HD Graphics.

If you are running crysis 2 on medium at whichever resolution your laptop display is, I would be surprised if Skyrim is any more demanding. So the settings and frame rates you are getting will probably be similar, but can't confirm until the game is released. I would have imagined you would need to play on low settings, at reduced resolution (800x600 or 1280x720).

Mine runs at 1280x800 at default. as I out source to a second monitor at 1280x1024 I dont see any slowdowns probaly about from 56 frames on medium for crisis to 50.

On Crysis or Crysis 2?
(huge difference)

i havent noticed a diffrence >_< LOL.

I hope this doesn't sound too harsh, but if you want to game on a PC, buy or build a PC with appropriate hardware for gaming, and that means getting an nVidia or ATI/AMD GPU - onboard Intel GPUs are not widely supported for gaming - they are used for visual media (streaming/playing downloaded media files etc) but they are not a supported gaming GPU.

Really it's the equivalent of me buying a toaster and then complaining that I can't use it to roast beef. If you want to play games, make sure your GPU is supported and up to the job.

It doesnt sound harsh and i know this thread is way off topic now but like I have stated I haven't notices a difference with a lot of high end games. There are some games I can't play on high like Civ 5 and other how ever there are lots I can play on high that are considered higher end games. I was just curious as to where skyrim will sit. will you need to rebuild your computer like you did for crysis where people made massive god machines where mine is a simple tecra laptop and can run it on high? or will it be in the same category as oblivion with slightly nicer graphics. we cant use the trailer as guesse because thats all pre rendered graphics. Meaning that it could like watching LIVE water on your screen and it wont affect your GPU. Have we seen game play vids of demos and what not? can we make assumptions based off those?

It's hard to predict exactly what frame rates you will get with Skyrim, but if you are getting decent frame rates above 30fps at medium settings at 1280x800 with a lot of recent games, Skyrim will probably be around the same level for you. It's going to be more demanding than Oblivion, of course, but probably not as demanding as Metro 2033 or Witcher 2.

Once you become accustomed to gaming at 1920x1080 or higher resolutions, it really feels like you are missing out on the complete visual experience at low resolution, but if it works for you and you are having a good time, forget about the other posters and keep rocking that Intel HD Graphics.