[RELz] As Intended - Boars & Imps : IV

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:33 am

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=31297

This is a relatively simple tweak to boars and imps. It was discovered by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch team that there are magic resistance abilities earmarked for boars and imps in the CS... but they were never actually added to the creatures! After some debate, it was decided that this would not be fixed by the UOP. So instead, here's a separate mod which grants the resistances they should have always had!

Boars have 25% magic resistance.
Imps have 50% magic resistance.
Some other minor imp fixes from UOP are included in this mod.
Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul imps and boars are supported.
Optionally affects only boars, or only imps.

Enjoy!

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:58 pm

Awesome!
That'll make the buggers even more annoying!:)

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:23 am

Okay, looks like it needs to load after FCOM_Knights, and FCOM_Knights needs a Faction tag in order to get maximum benefit and minimum conflict.

It's fully mergeable, so no need to worry about losing a slot.

Boars will be a bit smaller than normal, but that's okay, and you might lose Cobl based meats on the Boars as well.

This will stop being important when a Spells tag is implemented for Wrye Bash.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:47 pm

Jeez, the things are hard enough to kill in the first place... Honestly I think OOO does a perfect job already, and including this will just kind of throw off the balance that's already there. That's just my opinion though.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:08 pm

Jeez, the things are hard enough to kill in the first place...

They're a piece of cake, just walk backwards as you're swinging your sword. They're so slow they can never keep up to you.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:05 am

Do you need a MMM/MMMforOOO/FCOM version? will only take me a few minutes to do once again..

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:17 am

They're a piece of cake, just walk backwards as you're swinging your sword. They're so slow they can never keep up to you.

You have quite obviously never fought a OOO Gargoyle...

E: Though I won't get too offended at such a statement by a fellow Victoria resident

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:23 pm

You have quite obviously never fought a OOO Gargoyle...

I think they where talking about Imp and Boars in general and not

OOO Gargoyle which are not affected by this Plugin. Has I just checked to be sure.

OOO Mystical Imp should be a little bit harder to take down with this .

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:21 pm

After some whining, it was decided that this would not be fixed by the UOP.

Fixed.

Thanks for the mod.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:50 pm

Oh for the love of all that's Oblivion, don't start that here again.

This is someone else's release thread, keep your old arguments out of it.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:09 am

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=31297

This is a relatively simple tweak to boars and imps. It was discovered by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch team that there are magic resistance abilities earmarked for boars and imps in the CS... but they were never actually added to the creatures! After some debate, it was decided that this would not be fixed by the UOP. So instead, here's a separate mod which grants the resistances they should have always had!

Boars have 25% magic resistance.
Imps have 50% magic resistance.
Some other minor imp fixes from UOP are included in this mod.
Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul imps and boars are supported.
Optionally affects only boars, or only imps.

Enjoy!

Hey!

This is lovely!

A question for you - if this includes some of the UOP fixes that's not to say having them both will cause any issues, right? I mean, from a logical steadpoint, it shouldn't, but I know that having the UOP and other bug-fixing mods is generally frowned upon. In this case the changes are the same so I think it's ok.

And another one - do you support all imps and boars or just a finite set? Asking out of curiosity here, not because I've got extra boars hidden somewheres.

Keep up the good work!

cc

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:17 pm

You have quite obviously never fought a OOO Gargoyle...

I was refering to Boars. I used to dread them until I realized how slow they were. They're not so tough if they can't hit you.

E: Though I won't get too offended at such a statement by a fellow Victoria resident

Cool. And that kind of sums up the crappy spring we're having as well. :banghead:

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:12 pm

Do you need a MMM/MMMforOOO/FCOM version? will only take me a few minutes to do once again..

I'll happily include such a version if you supply it.

A question for you - if this includes some of the UOP fixes that's not to say having them both will cause any issues, right?

Right. It means this won't un-do those fixes, and they will even exist in the OOO version.

And another one - do you support all imps and boars or just a finite set?

This is done with static edits, not a script; it support all imps and boars of types which already exist in vanilla and/or OOO.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:34 pm

Looking through the OOO Boars and Imps file in preparation for reminding the BOSS team that they missed this one and I noticed something odd.

This file seems to change the editor ID for the vanilla boar "CreatureBoar" to "CreatureBoar0". OOO does add a "CreatureBoar1" through "CreatureBoar9", but it does not rename the original with the zero extension. The same is done to the vanilla "CreatureImp", which becomes "CreatureImp0" by this mod.

Since it seems to have no purpose and could potentially cause a script error, it seems like a mistake/bad edit to me.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:40 pm

So this mod is working out quite, my Imps at least are alot tougher. I haven't noticed it on the Boars that much since I don't usually use alot of magic to take them down, mainly melee while backpedalling.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:10 am

OOO does add a "CreatureBoar1" through "CreatureBoar9", but it does not rename the original with the zero extension.

My copy (1.35b5) does in fact make this change. And yeah, it surprised me too.

Belanos: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10901?

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:43 pm

My copy (1.35b5) does in fact make this change. And yeah, it surprised me too

Just checked, and this is fixed in the next OOO update. Don't know if you'll want to correct this now or wait for its release.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:17 am

Belanos: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10901?

I don't actually run, I just walk. The fatigue mod I use gives me a 90% chance of stumbling if I run, but there's no penalty for just walking backwards. Boars are very slow creatures.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:50 am

Thanks for this tejon! :foodndrink: LOL Little tweaks like this make the game that much better!

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:42 pm

I was refering to Boars. I used to dread them until I realized how slow they were. They're not so tough if they can't hit you.

Haha.. same story with me. I remember being chased from Anvil almost all the way to Skingrad by a big boar. And since I play dead-is-dead I was pissing in terror the whole way. Nowadays I don't even fear them, their melee range and attack animations are even worse than wolves'!

Imps, though, the mystics and the gargoyles are still terrifying. 50% magic resist is an unbearable thought.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:52 am

Hmm... actually, I didn't touch gargoyles. I probably should.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:38 pm

Hmm... actually, I didn't touch gargoyles. I probably should.

Keep in mind a gargoyle already HAS some amount of magic reflect.

I bought the Apotheosis just to take down one of those bastards and I nearly killed myself doing it.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:39 am

Keep in mind a gargoyle already HAS some amount of magic reflect.

Ouch.

Haven't actually played with OOO enough to have encountered one yet... I'll take a look at them and see if it's appropriate, but it sounds like maybe not...

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:13 pm

I think I kind of like these changes, as easily as boars already rip my PC to shreds in low-level FCOM, not that my PC's spells help to much at low levels anyway (focus on endurance and willpower...)

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:00 pm

I don't actually run, I just walk. The fatigue mod I use gives me a 90% chance of stumbling if I run, but there's no penalty for just walking backwards. Boars are very slow creatures.

Wich fatigue mod do you have?