[RELzWIPz] Interesting NPCs
» Mon May 28, 2012 1:58 am
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Justin Hankins - Posts: 3348
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» Sun May 27, 2012 9:49 pm
A few more things that the team might want to look at and check.
1.Ingrate the serving wench at Marthal inn - she never takes my order? She is sent over to do that when I sit down but there is no dialogue to buy.
2. Al-Hassan the smith - When he is at the inn the question comes up why there are so many bees in his smithy; I've never been there so I can't know that really. Wonderfully voiced by the way
3. Viagram in Winterhold - He hates mages; I am the Archmage but there isn't an option to say something about that. Just an observation not really a fault per se.
4. Eleanor the Book-worm - The dialogue chose of "Well, good luck with that", feels like it should end the conversation; now I have to exit it manually.
Again - must say that this is an incredible mod. It is great fun talking to all these characters.
Cheers!
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Alexis Acevedo - Posts: 3330
- Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:58 pm
» Sun May 27, 2012 6:35 pm
Hello again
A few more things that the team might want to look at and check.
1.Ingrate the serving wench at Marthal inn - she never takes my order? She is sent over to do that when I sit down but there is no dialogue to buy.
2. Al-Hassan the smith - When he is at the inn the question comes up why there are so many bees in his smithy; I've never been there so I can't know that really. Wonderfully voiced by the way
3. Viagram in Winterhold - He hates mages; I am the Archmage but there isn't an option to say something about that. Just an observation not really a fault per se.
4. Eleanor the Book-worm - The dialogue chose of "Well, good luck with that", feels like it should end the conversation; now I have to exit it manually.
Again - must say that this is an incredible mod. It is great fun talking to all these characters.
Cheers!
A few more things that the team might want to look at and check.
1.Ingrate the serving wench at Marthal inn - she never takes my order? She is sent over to do that when I sit down but there is no dialogue to buy.
2. Al-Hassan the smith - When he is at the inn the question comes up why there are so many bees in his smithy; I've never been there so I can't know that really. Wonderfully voiced by the way
3. Viagram in Winterhold - He hates mages; I am the Archmage but there isn't an option to say something about that. Just an observation not really a fault per se.
4. Eleanor the Book-worm - The dialogue chose of "Well, good luck with that", feels like it should end the conversation; now I have to exit it manually.
Again - must say that this is an incredible mod. It is great fun talking to all these characters.
Cheers!
Thanks for these, I'll pass them to Kris if he doesn't see them here first, and fix 'em in the next version.
1. probably for now it'll just be disabled that she's the one coming to you, given that this dialogue probably isn't recorded atm..
2. conditional thing to change, I guess.
3. could probably use a bit of dialogue, yeah.
4. just a checkbox
Cheers.
Also, the latest in voiceacting :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HZBxoWujTA
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James Shaw - Posts: 3399
- Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:23 pm
» Sun May 27, 2012 6:23 pm
Hi there. Very well done mod. I started a topic about this in the mod forum, but on the offhand chance this is related to your mod I thought I'd post here too.
I'm getting freezing or crashing to desktop during dialogue (Vanilla NPCs... the sawmill guy in Riverwood, the Smith in Riverwood, and the Redguard Amren? in Whiterun.) It's never happened before, and I just installed interesting NPCs with a new setup. (Clean install, fully updated, all mods updated and installed using BAIN, systematically loaded a few mods at a time...)
I'm skeptical it's your mod because you've done such a nice job, but maybe you'll see something in my load order that you know wouldn't play nice...
Active Mod Files:
I'm getting freezing or crashing to desktop during dialogue (Vanilla NPCs... the sawmill guy in Riverwood, the Smith in Riverwood, and the Redguard Amren? in Whiterun.) It's never happened before, and I just installed interesting NPCs with a new setup. (Clean install, fully updated, all mods updated and installed using BAIN, systematically loaded a few mods at a time...)
I'm skeptical it's your mod because you've done such a nice job, but maybe you'll see something in my load order that you know wouldn't play nice...
Active Mod Files:
Spoiler
00 Skyrim.esm01 Update.esm02 Imp's More Complex Needs.esm [Version 0.24]03 LorecraftESM.esm04 itsatrap!.esm05 JSwords.esm06 HighResTexturePack01.esp07 HighResTexturePack02.esp08 Shadow Striping Fix.esp09 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.0]0A HighResTexturePackFix.esp0B Chesko_Frostfall.esp0C enhanceddynamicweathersystemnormal.esp0D SoS - The Dungeons.esp [Version 1.10]0E SoS - The Wilds.esp [Version 1.0.1]0F Better Dynamic Snow.esp10 Realistic Lighting.esp11 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp12 Economics of Skyrim.esp13 3DNPC.esp14 bloodierCombatv1.1.esp15 CookingExpanded.esp++ CookingExpanded - EoS.esp16 CookingExpanded - IMCN.esp++ Craftable Arrows.esp17 Crimson Tide - Blood.esp18 EquipableMap.esp19 IMCN - Overrides.esp1A itsatrap!.esp1B Lorecraft - Vanilla.esp1C Lorecraft - Traps.esp1D lt_better_horses.esp1E MoreRainWindy33percentLessView.esp1F MoreSnowWindyand75percentLessView.esp20 Piratelords Loot Adjustments.esp21 Tamriel Compendium.esp [Version 1.0]22 Auto Unequip Arrows.esp23 IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp24 Compelling Treasure Maps.esp25 Actualize Apparel.esp26 BlackSacramentArmor.esp27 Cloaks.esp28 1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp29 daedric_phelm.esp2A JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp2B Lorecraft - JSwords.esp2C LFArmors.esp2D Lorecraft - AncientFalmerSwords.esp2E royal_daedric.esp2F WeaponsOf3E.esp30 WeaponsOf3E_Replacer.esp31 Lorecraft - WeaponsOf3E.esp32 Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp33 Weapons and Armor fixes.esp34 Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp35 Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp36 Lorecraft - Crafting Overhaul.esp37 PISE.esp++ PISE-More Intense Level Scaling.esp38 DeadlyDragons.esp39 DeadlyDragonsCreature.esp3A Deadly Traps.esp3B Improved Archery and Bows.esp3C NoCombatMusic.esp3D NoHealthRegen.esp3E Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp++ SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp3F Sickly Diseases.esp40 Skyrim Creatures Alive.esp [Version 0.25CK]41 Speed Revised.esp42 TCO - Travel Cost Overhaul.esp43 torches for RL (happy medium).esp44 Live Another Life.esp [Version 1.4]45 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp46 VampireOverhaul.esp47 VampireEffectProject.esp48 VampFX-OverhaulPatch.esp49 Werewolf Enhancer.esp4A markrecall.esp4B DeadlySpellImpacts.esp4C Mighty Magick - Scaling.esp4D Mighty Magick - Restoration.esp4E Mighty Magick - Conjuration.esp4F Mighty Magick - Alteration.esp50 Mighty Magick - Dual Casting.esp51 Mighty Magick - Destruction.esp52 Mighty Magick - Illusion.esp53 Mighty Magick - Fortify Magic School Enchantment and Alchemy Reversed.esp54 Mighty Magick - Restoration Extras.esp55 Mighty Magick - Illusion Extras.esp56 Mighty Magick - Conjuration Extras.esp57 Mighty Magick - Alteration Extras.esp58 Starting Spell Choice.esp59 PISE-Reduced Potions.esp5A Fluffkins_Lockpicking.esp5B hardcoe Lockpicking1-12.esp5C Path of Shadows.esp5D The Dance of Death.esp5E DeadlyCombat.esp5F DeadlyCombat_UnarmedFix.esp60 DeadlyCombat_PISE_Patch.esp61 DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp62 Dual Wield Parrying_ScriptDragon.esp++ Skyrim 20 DeadBody Remover.esp++ Skyrim 1 Day DeadBody Timer.esp++ Skyrim 5 Day Respawn.esp63 Skyrim 5 Day Vendor Respawn.esp++ Skyrim Timescale 8.esp64 Bashed Patch, 0.esp----> Delinquent MASTER: WeaponsOf3E PISE Plugin.esp++ DisableAutoAim.esp65 expensivetraining.esp66 Lorecraft - Dragonbone.esp67 Lorecraft - MCraft.esp68 WeaponsOf3E PISE Plugin.esp69 RiversideLodge.esp [Version 1.1.3]6A Spousetocustomhome.esp6B UnlimitedBookshelves.esp6C Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp
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Sophie Miller - Posts: 3300
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» Mon May 28, 2012 4:43 am
Hi there. Very well done mod. I started a topic about this in the mod forum, but on the offhand chance this is related to your mod I thought I'd post here too.
I'm getting freezing or crashing to desktop during dialogue (Vanilla NPCs... the sawmill guy in Riverwood, the Smith in Riverwood, and the Redguard Amren? in Whiterun.) It's never happened before, and I just installed interesting NPCs with a new setup. (Clean install, fully updated, all mods updated and installed using BAIN, systematically loaded a few mods at a time...)
I'm skeptical it's your mod because you've done such a nice job, but maybe you'll see something in my load order that you know wouldn't play nice...
Active Mod Files:
I'm getting freezing or crashing to desktop during dialogue (Vanilla NPCs... the sawmill guy in Riverwood, the Smith in Riverwood, and the Redguard Amren? in Whiterun.) It's never happened before, and I just installed interesting NPCs with a new setup. (Clean install, fully updated, all mods updated and installed using BAIN, systematically loaded a few mods at a time...)
I'm skeptical it's your mod because you've done such a nice job, but maybe you'll see something in my load order that you know wouldn't play nice...
Active Mod Files:
Spoiler
00 Skyrim.esm01 Update.esm02 Imp's More Complex Needs.esm [Version 0.24]03 LorecraftESM.esm04 itsatrap!.esm05 JSwords.esm06 HighResTexturePack01.esp07 HighResTexturePack02.esp08 Shadow Striping Fix.esp09 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.0]0A HighResTexturePackFix.esp0B Chesko_Frostfall.esp0C enhanceddynamicweathersystemnormal.esp0D SoS - The Dungeons.esp [Version 1.10]0E SoS - The Wilds.esp [Version 1.0.1]0F Better Dynamic Snow.esp10 Realistic Lighting.esp11 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp12 Economics of Skyrim.esp13 3DNPC.esp14 bloodierCombatv1.1.esp15 CookingExpanded.esp++ CookingExpanded - EoS.esp16 CookingExpanded - IMCN.esp++ Craftable Arrows.esp17 Crimson Tide - Blood.esp18 EquipableMap.esp19 IMCN - Overrides.esp1A itsatrap!.esp1B Lorecraft - Vanilla.esp1C Lorecraft - Traps.esp1D lt_better_horses.esp1E MoreRainWindy33percentLessView.esp1F MoreSnowWindyand75percentLessView.esp20 Piratelords Loot Adjustments.esp21 Tamriel Compendium.esp [Version 1.0]22 Auto Unequip Arrows.esp23 IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp24 Compelling Treasure Maps.esp25 Actualize Apparel.esp26 BlackSacramentArmor.esp27 Cloaks.esp28 1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp29 daedric_phelm.esp2A JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp2B Lorecraft - JSwords.esp2C LFArmors.esp2D Lorecraft - AncientFalmerSwords.esp2E royal_daedric.esp2F WeaponsOf3E.esp30 WeaponsOf3E_Replacer.esp31 Lorecraft - WeaponsOf3E.esp32 Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp33 Weapons and Armor fixes.esp34 Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp35 Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp36 Lorecraft - Crafting Overhaul.esp37 PISE.esp++ PISE-More Intense Level Scaling.esp38 DeadlyDragons.esp39 DeadlyDragonsCreature.esp3A Deadly Traps.esp3B Improved Archery and Bows.esp3C NoCombatMusic.esp3D NoHealthRegen.esp3E Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp++ SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp3F Sickly Diseases.esp40 Skyrim Creatures Alive.esp [Version 0.25CK]41 Speed Revised.esp42 TCO - Travel Cost Overhaul.esp43 torches for RL (happy medium).esp44 Live Another Life.esp [Version 1.4]45 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp46 VampireOverhaul.esp47 VampireEffectProject.esp48 VampFX-OverhaulPatch.esp49 Werewolf Enhancer.esp4A markrecall.esp4B DeadlySpellImpacts.esp4C Mighty Magick - Scaling.esp4D Mighty Magick - Restoration.esp4E Mighty Magick - Conjuration.esp4F Mighty Magick - Alteration.esp50 Mighty Magick - Dual Casting.esp51 Mighty Magick - Destruction.esp52 Mighty Magick - Illusion.esp53 Mighty Magick - Fortify Magic School Enchantment and Alchemy Reversed.esp54 Mighty Magick - Restoration Extras.esp55 Mighty Magick - Illusion Extras.esp56 Mighty Magick - Conjuration Extras.esp57 Mighty Magick - Alteration Extras.esp58 Starting Spell Choice.esp59 PISE-Reduced Potions.esp5A Fluffkins_Lockpicking.esp5B hardcoe Lockpicking1-12.esp5C Path of Shadows.esp5D The Dance of Death.esp5E DeadlyCombat.esp5F DeadlyCombat_UnarmedFix.esp60 DeadlyCombat_PISE_Patch.esp61 DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp62 Dual Wield Parrying_ScriptDragon.esp++ Skyrim 20 DeadBody Remover.esp++ Skyrim 1 Day DeadBody Timer.esp++ Skyrim 5 Day Respawn.esp63 Skyrim 5 Day Vendor Respawn.esp++ Skyrim Timescale 8.esp64 Bashed Patch, 0.esp----> Delinquent MASTER: WeaponsOf3E PISE Plugin.esp++ DisableAutoAim.esp65 expensivetraining.esp66 Lorecraft - Dragonbone.esp67 Lorecraft - MCraft.esp68 WeaponsOf3E PISE Plugin.esp69 RiversideLodge.esp [Version 1.1.3]6A Spousetocustomhome.esp6B UnlimitedBookshelves.esp6C Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp
That's a -ton- of mods O.o
Are there any particular circumstances that trigger the bug? Just on vanilla ones? I don't know all these mods by heart so I'm not sure if any of them may conflict with iNPCs given that that's generally dealt with based on people reporting it (thus far all reported crashes due to iNPCs have been traced to other mods instead, mostly Wars in Skyrim which is doubtful to have future support.
As far as I'm aware, iNPCs doesn't affect vanilla characters at all, only adding new custom ones - this should not generally affect characters that came with Vanilla I'd think. -muses- Obviously I don't have all these installed, so if you could trim the possible culprits down to a few, I can test myself if I can replicate the error - as you said, activating some at a time should give you an idea of which mods might be doing it.
If it is our mod, we'll first need to figure out what is causing it - given that we mostly add dialogue which doesn't seem the most likely of things to trigger CTDs.
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lydia nekongo - Posts: 3403
- Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:04 pm
» Mon May 28, 2012 12:09 am
That's a -ton- of mods O.o
Are there any particular circumstances that trigger the bug? Just on vanilla ones? I don't know all these mods by heart so I'm not sure if any of them may conflict with iNPCs given that that's generally dealt with based on people reporting it (thus far all reported crashes due to iNPCs have been traced to other mods instead, mostly Wars in Skyrim which is doubtful to have future support.
As far as I'm aware, iNPCs doesn't affect vanilla characters at all, only adding new custom ones - this should not generally affect characters that came with Vanilla I'd think. -muses- Obviously I don't have all these installed, so if you could trim the possible culprits down to a few, I can test myself if I can replicate the error - as you said, activating some at a time should give you an idea of which mods might be doing it.
If it is our mod, we'll first need to figure out what is causing it - given that we mostly add dialogue which doesn't seem the most likely of things to trigger CTDs.
Are there any particular circumstances that trigger the bug? Just on vanilla ones? I don't know all these mods by heart so I'm not sure if any of them may conflict with iNPCs given that that's generally dealt with based on people reporting it (thus far all reported crashes due to iNPCs have been traced to other mods instead, mostly Wars in Skyrim which is doubtful to have future support.
As far as I'm aware, iNPCs doesn't affect vanilla characters at all, only adding new custom ones - this should not generally affect characters that came with Vanilla I'd think. -muses- Obviously I don't have all these installed, so if you could trim the possible culprits down to a few, I can test myself if I can replicate the error - as you said, activating some at a time should give you an idea of which mods might be doing it.
If it is our mod, we'll first need to figure out what is causing it - given that we mostly add dialogue which doesn't seem the most likely of things to trigger CTDs.
Right-o... I'' be surprised if it's your mod, it just seems like the one that's most closely related to the crash. I've got some time now so I plan to play for awhile with your mod disabled and see if it happens. It isn't repeatable as far as same NPC same time, but it has ended every one of my gaming sessions that I interact with NPCs. I haven't figured out if there's a certain amount of time or what. I'll report back whenever or if-ever I figure something out.
If it's still happening I'll probably re-load a character with smaller batches and give it some more thorough testing to make sure all is working as it should.
Thanks for the quick reply!! Great mod.
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i grind hard - Posts: 3463
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» Mon May 28, 2012 3:32 am
Confirmed that it's not iNPCs. I just had it happen again with your mod deactivated. Thanks!
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Czar Kahchi - Posts: 3306
- Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:56 am
» Mon May 28, 2012 6:28 am
Thanks Buckley, I suppose you'll have to deduce what it is if not some incompatibility with iNPCs.
I suppose given that the mod is dialogue-centric, it is the logical thing to assume it's got to do something with the errors - thankfully, no confirmed incompatibility yet - for now.
New version is expected today or tomorrow, so cheers. ^^
Jeron
I suppose given that the mod is dialogue-centric, it is the logical thing to assume it's got to do something with the errors - thankfully, no confirmed incompatibility yet - for now.
New version is expected today or tomorrow, so cheers. ^^
Jeron
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asako - Posts: 3296
- Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:16 am
» Sun May 27, 2012 11:01 pm
Hi,
In case you guys aren't aware, there is now a silent voice SKSE plugin:
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1365775-rel-fuz-ro-doh/
Is there any way I could convince you to package your silent voice files as a separate download from everything else? That way, those of us using shadeMe's SKSE plugin could have a much smaller download.
In case you guys aren't aware, there is now a silent voice SKSE plugin:
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1365775-rel-fuz-ro-doh/
Is there any way I could convince you to package your silent voice files as a separate download from everything else? That way, those of us using shadeMe's SKSE plugin could have a much smaller download.
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Sharra Llenos - Posts: 3399
- Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:09 pm
» Mon May 28, 2012 3:49 am
Hi,
In case you guys aren't aware, there is now a silent voice SKSE plugin:
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1365775-rel-fuz-ro-doh/
Is there any way I could convince you to package your silent voice files as a separate download from everything else? That way, those of us using shadeMe's SKSE plugin could have a much smaller download.
In case you guys aren't aware, there is now a silent voice SKSE plugin:
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1365775-rel-fuz-ro-doh/
Is there any way I could convince you to package your silent voice files as a separate download from everything else? That way, those of us using shadeMe's SKSE plugin could have a much smaller download.
Perhaps a better option would be to have the voiced version simply include an additional ESP, which has all the characters as optional? No need to upload twice, then?
Cheers.
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Rachael Williams - Posts: 3373
- Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:43 pm
» Mon May 28, 2012 1:55 am
Perhaps a better option would be to have the voiced version simply include an additional ESP, which has all the characters as optional? No need to upload twice, then?
Cheers.
Cheers.
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Steve Bates - Posts: 3447
- Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:51 pm
» Mon May 28, 2012 12:04 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttbELq6IkP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoe9nid7mXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYs_RrL4Cb4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_tJcab2rfU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HZBxoWujTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoe9nid7mXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYs_RrL4Cb4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_tJcab2rfU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HZBxoWujTA
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sunny lovett - Posts: 3388
- Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:59 am
» Sun May 27, 2012 7:35 pm
Great, hlvr. Between that and your sig line though, I'm getting nervous. -snicker-
1.55 is about done, uploading is about underway so... keep an eye out.
1.55 is about done, uploading is about underway so... keep an eye out.
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Laura Elizabeth - Posts: 3454
- Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:34 pm
» Sun May 27, 2012 8:03 pm
Version 1.55 just went up - voiced version as well as Fuz-ro-D'oh patch and such will follow soon.
Version 1.55
Version 1.55
- Added NPCs Beatrice, Urzub, Nythriel, and Gwyvane
- Removed background noise from Melea Entius retakes (Edited by Roarian)
- Added voices to Nitter, Berg, and Qa'Dojo
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christelle047 - Posts: 3407
- Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:50 pm
» Sun May 27, 2012 10:15 pm
Version 1.57
- Added NPCs Asteria, Ureni and Dog
- Removed accidental changes to Arngeir's appearance to where he's a clone of Zarlak
- Altered vanilla NPC Bolund's schedule to go to inn for scenes with Jerulith
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naomi - Posts: 3400
- Joined: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:58 pm
» Sun May 27, 2012 7:00 pm
I'm interested in voice-acting for this mod. I assume you are still looking for voice actors? I hope I can help.
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Kaley X - Posts: 3372
- Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:46 pm
» Sun May 27, 2012 3:09 pm
The voice acting is so good! This will definitely find a place in my game.
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Angela - Posts: 3492
- Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:33 am
» Sun May 27, 2012 7:41 pm
Ohmygoodness, how had I not spotted this before now? Great vision, and awesome effort. Big thumbs up for this project!
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Dan Scott - Posts: 3373
- Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:45 am
» Mon May 28, 2012 3:08 am
Version 1.58a
- Fixes block on NPC Ureni at Sarethi Farm which prevented access to majority of dialogue
Version 1.58
- Added NPC Frik to Dawnstar Sea Squall
- Added voices to Gromash(Nextmastermind) and Godrod(Jonathan Murphy)
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sarah simon-rogaume - Posts: 3383
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» Mon May 28, 2012 5:48 am
That's me!
But the dude's working on this mod are awesome and great at writing, I highly recommend getting it
But the dude's working on this mod are awesome and great at writing, I highly recommend getting it
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Loane - Posts: 3411
- Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:35 am
» Mon May 28, 2012 2:42 am
Wow really well done, you nailed the Orc voice nextmastermind!
That new woman khajiit voice also hit the exact spot.
And to believe that for so long, everyone has settled with silent voices, when in reality there are so many great voice talents out there!
That new woman khajiit voice also hit the exact spot.
And to believe that for so long, everyone has settled with silent voices, when in reality there are so many great voice talents out there!
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Karl harris - Posts: 3423
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» Sun May 27, 2012 4:28 pm
Thanks hlvr!
And I agree entirely about the Khajiit voice and the variety of great voice actors
And I agree entirely about the Khajiit voice and the variety of great voice actors
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Vicki Gunn - Posts: 3397
- Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:59 am
» Sun May 27, 2012 9:18 pm
Great! Things are progressing nicely!
Are you planning on cleaning up the voices any more than they are on the Youtube videos? Beatrice in particular is full of microphone popping on the video - with female voices it's quite easy to EQ out the pops...if you need any help with this I can point you in the right direction or when have the time I could have a look at a voice or two in Audacity or Soundbooth.
It's a shame that some of the voice actors didn't use a pop filter when recording - a good home-made filter is simply a wire hanger shaped in a circle with a ladies nylon stocking stretched over it. Maybe you could ask all your future actors to make a pop filter - and maybe even re-record some of the worst-offending lines from existing characters?
Are you planning on cleaning up the voices any more than they are on the Youtube videos? Beatrice in particular is full of microphone popping on the video - with female voices it's quite easy to EQ out the pops...if you need any help with this I can point you in the right direction or when have the time I could have a look at a voice or two in Audacity or Soundbooth.
It's a shame that some of the voice actors didn't use a pop filter when recording - a good home-made filter is simply a wire hanger shaped in a circle with a ladies nylon stocking stretched over it. Maybe you could ask all your future actors to make a pop filter - and maybe even re-record some of the worst-offending lines from existing characters?
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Tanya - Posts: 3358
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» Mon May 28, 2012 7:01 am
Great! Things are progressing nicely!
Are you planning on cleaning up the voices any more than they are on the Youtube videos? Beatrice in particular is full of microphone popping on the video - with female voices it's quite easy to EQ out the pops...if you need any help with this I can point you in the right direction or when have the time I could have a look at a voice or two in Audacity or Soundbooth.
It's a shame that some of the voice actors didn't use a pop filter when recording - a good home-made filter is simply a wire hanger shaped in a circle with a ladies nylon stocking stretched over it. Maybe you could ask all your future actors to make a pop filter - and maybe even re-record some of the worst-offending lines from existing characters?
Are you planning on cleaning up the voices any more than they are on the Youtube videos? Beatrice in particular is full of microphone popping on the video - with female voices it's quite easy to EQ out the pops...if you need any help with this I can point you in the right direction or when have the time I could have a look at a voice or two in Audacity or Soundbooth.
It's a shame that some of the voice actors didn't use a pop filter when recording - a good home-made filter is simply a wire hanger shaped in a circle with a ladies nylon stocking stretched over it. Maybe you could ask all your future actors to make a pop filter - and maybe even re-record some of the worst-offending lines from existing characters?
Would love some input on the sound editing - I'm afraid asking them to redub 130 lines doesn't tend to get the best reception, and we're short on female VA's as it is, even if we're swamped with male VA's offering their services at times.
Some of the VA's are better than others - particularly older roles are a bit lower quality, though several of those have been fixed up quite a bit now.
Cheers.
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brian adkins - Posts: 3452
- Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:51 am
» Sun May 27, 2012 4:15 pm
Sure, no probs - female voices are the easiest to EQ out mic popping - are you using Audacity? That's a good (and free) program to use.
I'll explain the very basics - apologies if you already know how to do this! Disclaimer - I'm not a professional sound engineer, but I've had to learn how to sound edit as part of my job, and everything I've picked up has been through experimenting myself.
The best option is to re-record, but of course that's not always possible. You'll never get perfect audio with filtering, but you can drastically improve what you have already recorded.
For example with Beatrice, simply select the range of audio (ie. the whole of each clip) and select "equalization" from the Effect menu.
The "pops" are at a lower frequency than the higher-pitched voice, so you can just remove the lower frequencies.
Click on "Graphic EQ" (so you can see the details easier) and drag the sliders for all frequencies lower than 100hz down to -20db (ie. drag 9 of the sliders on the left down the bottom). Click "preview" while you're experimenting until you get an acceptable quality. You want to avoid changing the timbre of the voice, so be careful if the lower frequencies affect the voice in any way, otherwise it can end up sounding too tinny. Experiment with a few random samples of the same voice to make sure the same settings apply throughout the recording.
You'll then need to remove background noises - select a few seconds of the recording where there is no dialogue - for example the first couple of seconds or wherever there's a long pause. Select "noise removal" from the menu, then "Get Noise Profile". Preview and hopefully what you heard before as background noise will be gone and the silence will resemble actual silence more closely! If all is ok, then shut the box and select the entire audio range. Go back to noise removal and preview the new sound. You can mess with the settings but generally the default options work in many circumstances. If all is ok then select ok and you can move on to the next recording.
I just tried quickly with the youtube audio and in 30 seconds had a recording that sounded much better than the original. I set 125hz and under at -20db (the 10 sliders on the left), and then the new few frequency settings higher in a curve until 400hz.
The Youtube audio gain (volume) is quite low, but I have no idea how this compares with the vanilla audio gain - might be worth normalising the audio if it sounds too low in game (although this will increase the background sound too, giving you more to have to filter out!).
If you'd like to chat further, feel free to PM me.
I'll explain the very basics - apologies if you already know how to do this! Disclaimer - I'm not a professional sound engineer, but I've had to learn how to sound edit as part of my job, and everything I've picked up has been through experimenting myself.
The best option is to re-record, but of course that's not always possible. You'll never get perfect audio with filtering, but you can drastically improve what you have already recorded.
For example with Beatrice, simply select the range of audio (ie. the whole of each clip) and select "equalization" from the Effect menu.
The "pops" are at a lower frequency than the higher-pitched voice, so you can just remove the lower frequencies.
Click on "Graphic EQ" (so you can see the details easier) and drag the sliders for all frequencies lower than 100hz down to -20db (ie. drag 9 of the sliders on the left down the bottom). Click "preview" while you're experimenting until you get an acceptable quality. You want to avoid changing the timbre of the voice, so be careful if the lower frequencies affect the voice in any way, otherwise it can end up sounding too tinny. Experiment with a few random samples of the same voice to make sure the same settings apply throughout the recording.
You'll then need to remove background noises - select a few seconds of the recording where there is no dialogue - for example the first couple of seconds or wherever there's a long pause. Select "noise removal" from the menu, then "Get Noise Profile". Preview and hopefully what you heard before as background noise will be gone and the silence will resemble actual silence more closely! If all is ok, then shut the box and select the entire audio range. Go back to noise removal and preview the new sound. You can mess with the settings but generally the default options work in many circumstances. If all is ok then select ok and you can move on to the next recording.
I just tried quickly with the youtube audio and in 30 seconds had a recording that sounded much better than the original. I set 125hz and under at -20db (the 10 sliders on the left), and then the new few frequency settings higher in a curve until 400hz.
The Youtube audio gain (volume) is quite low, but I have no idea how this compares with the vanilla audio gain - might be worth normalising the audio if it sounds too low in game (although this will increase the background sound too, giving you more to have to filter out!).
If you'd like to chat further, feel free to PM me.
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