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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:13 pm

Over the span of 200 years from oblivion and 160 from the infernal city its hard to believe that skyrims borders would remain the same. With the fight for solstheim on the east, the possible collapsebof an empire in the south, and probable ongoing wars with high rock and hammerfell in the west, wouldn't be interesting to see an evolved skyrim? I hope something like that will be in the game. Being surprised with a visit to nord-controlled solstheim and seeing the change in the island would be awesome. Maybe even the Nordstrom have pushed and now hold some of what was redoran lands? What do you guys think? Skyrima borders the same or evolved?
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GabiiE Liiziiouz
 
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Post » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:22 am

Tamriel is a very stubborn continent. 200 years later and the technology is still the same. Same goes for borders.
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Post » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:57 am

.......................Read in Lore and you'll see why the Borders of 3 provinces have fluctuated because of Skyrim,


That Argonia and elswyere actualyl -lost- land to leyawiin.


etc etc
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Sandeep Khatkar
 
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:40 pm

Why would they change?

This is all one empire; not Europe :P
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:37 pm

While yes. Things staying the same is unrealistic in a normal world situation like this. Game wise it would be kinda annoying to redraw borders and such.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:50 pm

Well we know there is civil war in Skyrim, and I believe different holds have different aspirations and goals in this conflict even if some of them work as allies against one enemy, maybe political intrigues from daggerfall and morrowind will be enhanced in Skyrim now?
Outer borders of Skyrim can also change somewhere.
As well Skyrim will have on dunmer city, since Morrowind occupied by argonians can be such settlement created by refuges at borders with Skyrim or thats was border town of Nords what was occupied by dunmers when Skyrim become politically unstable?
What if Empire of Cyrodiil try to fortify political stability and power was strongly involved in politics of Skyrim? Will be there border forts and watches?
http://images.wikia.com/elderscrolls/images/2/2c/Nirn_Map.jpg

There is many interesting possibilities to uses such political instability to power plot of game in great way, I was really surprised thats Oblivion was so much static in this question even if there was great possibilities like more visible political and racial conflicts, worrying about Daedric Invasion and dead Emperor and his sons, no visible military machine of Empire since there is no functional forts and border watch, no fleet and really visible regular army actions.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:43 pm

Stable borders isn't that realistic, if you consider each province basically contains its own civilization, knit together by the bonds of empire politically, but not culturally. The borders might shift from time to time... but that would be as much the result of climate change as human volition.

It's a bit like how China's northern border wasn't exactly fixed at the Great Wall, but rather shifted north and south with the extension and receding of the arable land. (Similar border movement could be seen at Hadrian's Wall.) When the weather made land further north suited more to agriculture, the Chinese tended to grab the land, and the lands of the steppe barbarians would recede. When climate would reverse, and farmland would change to steppe, the northern border would recede with it.

I imagine the provincial borders of the Empire tend to move along similar lines. If you have a particularly cold century, the Nords are likely to conquer south a bit into Cyrodil. The Cyrodils return the favor whenever things warm up and lands to their north warm up to become more suited to Cyrodillic methods of cultivation, and less to Nordic methods. Likely the same is true to the south, the borders between Cyrodil, Black Marsh, and Elswyr. It's a question of to whom the land is worth most, which is most willing and able to shed blood to take or hold a particular piece of land, which is related to how much they expect to get out of it, which is related to how suited it happens to be to a particular group's methods of cultivation at the moment. I expect that provincial border changes would likely occur only at the margins, with the core areas, even if politically dominated by one group or another (whoever happens to hold the throne at the moment), mostly controlled by the people that belong to that province.
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