interspecies relaions : V - Skyrim

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:56 am

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-notes-racial-phylogeny-and-biology

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:26 am

Why's it always the, uh, business end of racial relations that everyone's so curious about? I'd like to just see the cultures clash, myself(~~if you know what I mean~~).

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:59 am

Why's it always the, uh, business end of racial relations that everyone's so curious about? I'd like to just see the cultures clash, myself(~~if you know what I mean~~).

Yeah I know what you-

...Wait, ewwwwww

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:39 am

According to lore redguards have different blood then the other races of man, so they can't breed with them. Probably because there from Yokunda and the others are from... I can't remember the name. All I know is nedes can't breed with yokunda.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:29 am

No, read the link I posted. All races of man and mer can interbreed. The offspring is almost always of the mother's race. Argonians and khajiiti are sort of up in the air, and it's not certain if they can interbreed. Hell, there are supposedly successful crossbreeds of daedra and mortals.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:33 am

Wasn't an Bosmer and Nord relationship alluded to in Anvil?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:14 am

No, read the link I posted. All races of man and mer can interbreed. The offspring is almost always of the mother's race. Argonians and khajiiti are sort of up in the air, and it's not certain if they can interbreed. Hell, there are supposedly successful crossbreeds of daedra and mortals.

This is correct, if you have a Dark Elf mother and an Imperial Father, then you'd get a Dark Elf Baby.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:17 pm

If I recall correctly, Bretons are a half-breed species - half mer, half man. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Breton

I would be surprised if you couldn't intermingle all of the humanoid races, but at least one race is the product of just such a union.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:46 am

If I recall correctly, Bretons are a half-breed species - half mer, half man. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Breton

I would be surprised if you couldn't intermingle all of the humanoid races, but at least one race is the product of just such a union.

Actaully, bretons are a product from generations of such unions. Which would indicate if similar circumstances were to befall another mix of races the same thing would happen. Nothing in this thread contradicts this.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:03 am

the argonians are hatched by the way they are reptiles.....

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:13 am

the argonians are hatched by the way they are reptiles.....

I wanna see eggs in strollers!

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:59 am

the argonians are hatched by the way they are reptiles.....

And yet I'm pretty sure it was Ken Rolston that once said that the lumps of protruding flesh on the chests of female argonians aren't just superficial, aka they have a lot more mammalian traits than what one would expect.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:06 am

well in morrowind you could help a dunmer that had a bosmer love interest but no i dont think there will be mixed races at least anything dramatic we might see a half redguard half imperial or maybe a half dunmer half altmer but thats about it
now about relationships we might see some things like an imperial with a dunmer girlfriend or wife

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:57 am

Your right about the breeding part, my mistake. Granted your using an in game book for your facts which doesn't mean it's end all be all, but I'm sure it is. :shrug:

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:55 pm

Barenziah had a brief affair with Tiber Septim which ended when he forced her to abort their child. It's canon.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:25 am

You know this is highly lore-unfriendly right?

I don't see what the problem is.

He's just RPing, not following Lore.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:10 am

Barenziah had a brief affair with Tiber Septim which ended when he forced her to abort their child. It's canon.

If this is at me it still doesn't prove redguard can breed with other races of man. Dunmer are cursed Altmer (well chimer), and they have been proven to be able to breed with man, but that was the nedes not the yokunda. I'm no longer saying it's a definite no mixing with redguards i'm just saying there hasn't been any true canon that they can.

They could easily have a half Redguard and half Nord character which would make it canon, and I wouldn't give two damns either way.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:15 pm

If this is at me it still doesn't prove redguard can breed with other races of man. Dunmer are cursed Altmer (well chimer), and they have been proven to be able to breed with man, but that was the nedes not the yokunda. I'm no longer saying it's a definite no mixing with redguards i'm just saying there hasn't been any true canon that they can.

They could easily have a half Redguard and half Nord character which would make it canon, and I wouldn't give two damns either way.

True, this is the kind of thing I don't care if they touch on. But I also think that somewhere it said (one of the game books?) that if two races breed the appearance is that of the mother.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:41 am

I wonder where http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/TheRisingDragon/YKIC/MW-creature-Dreugh.jpg come from?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:55 am

Khajiit and argonians can't interbreed with the other races. In the cases where interbreeding is possible the offspring looks like the mother with possibly subtle traits from the father.
The lack of interspecies relationships is probably due to cultural differences, argonians specifically are supposed to think completely differently compared to the other races, the bosmer are cannibals, the altmer are racial purists, the dunmer are xenophobes, etc.

Actually the book that gave info about races interbreeding was written by a highly racist guy as I recall, so his credibility is lacking.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:58 am

I wonder where http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/TheRisingDragon/YKIC/MW-creature-Dreugh.jpg come from?

What is that? It looks like half octopus half mancrab.. no no it looks half man half octocrab. No stupid it's octomancrab. Sorry watching southpark.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:36 am

Actually the book that gave info about races interbreeding was written by a highly racist guy as I recall, so his credibility is lacking.

The book is in-universe and is pretty much the only source on this stuff. It's canon that races can and do interbreed and that the child is usually of the mother's blood. If an orc and a vampire can have a child together then it stands to reason that a bosmer and a redguard could.

Also, if you read The Real Barenziah you can see Barenziah's father stating a distrust of Jagar Tharn because he has no human blood.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:11 pm

The book is in-universe and is pretty much the only source on this stuff. It's canon that races can and do interbreed and that the child is usually of the mother's blood. If an orc and a vampire can have a child together then it stands to reason that a bosmer and a redguard could.

Also, if you read The Real Barenziah you can see Barenziah's father stating a distrust of Jagar Tharn because he has no human blood.

I'm not saying that the mother's blood thing is non-canon, I do feel that the author's prejudice against beast-folk may have affected his final published works.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:48 am

I'm not saying that the mother's blood thing is non-canon, I do feel that the author's prejudice against beast-folk may have affected his final published works.

Not to mention he compares orcs to goblins and trolls, when they are in fact mer.

Also anyone else notice that were huge nerds...

Edit: He refers to orcs, goblins, trolls, imga and others as "other "races""

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:50 pm

Doesn't change the fact that khajiit and argonian reproduction is radically different from other races, which aren't born as literal kittens and whose physiology is not determined by the excretions of a sentient tree.