Okay I'm confused. Argonians have to do with the hist tree not khajiit. Also I'd prefer we didn't get into khajiit physiology good god it's confusing.

Also I don't see how this is related to what we were talking about..

Yes, I was citing both races. Your point was that in-universe racism somehow invalidates the author's claims that accounts of cross-breeding between khajiit or argonians are dubious at best.

Well yeah they wouldn't be able to with mer or man, but what I'm talking about is that Redguards are a completely different race then a nord is to an imperial. I'm unsure if they would be able to breed with the other human races. Granted I don't see how they could mate with mer either, but that has been proven.

Just reread my source and I think I mis-interpreted what they ment by "not sharing the same blood". Here I've been thinking there blood was probably chemically different.

I don't know what to think anymore. :shakehead:

Cite lore if you make these claims.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Redguard

Direct quote - Redguards do not share the same blood as the other human races, and they have no connection with the ancestral human homeland of Atmora.

It's unfortunate that we cannot getting a http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WordOfGod on this...

And mer do?

:shrug: Mer might be like the Asari but you know.. different. http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Asari

Yeah the nord Heinrich Oaken-Hull had a bosmer wife, it was referred to regularly by other people in Anvil. There was also a dunmer and imperial shacking up together in Chorrol, getting a lot of bad comments from the townsfolk.

Well that's just racism..

Hopefully because of children being implemented in the game we might see more bi-racial npcs.

im aware of the man/elven race's stuff but i meant more like orc/imperial red guard/argonian bosmer/khajit sort of thing.

Orcs are mer. Argonian + anything besides argonian = doubtful if not impossible. Same with khajiit.

Even less so with Khajiit, due to the whole fancy lunar birth cycle thing they have going on.

I think we should all close our eyes and pretend the other sub-species don't exist and never existed. Only one other type has appeared in game *that I know of* and that was the first one and second ones.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:AR-Race-Khajiit_Male.jpg

argonians are impossible to bread ith other species because the lay eggs even ask that one argonian in the dark brother hood heel say he was hatched. so unless its a reptile of some sorts i dont think that'll work but khajiit may have a chance under certain circumstances

That would be an Ohmes.

The type of Khajiit in Oblivion is a Suthay-Raht.

I assume they have six schedules to make sure that only Suthay-Rahts are born in Cyrodill/Morrowind, though I cant see why.

Anyways, I like the lunar birth cycles. It gives Khajiiti a sense of uniqueness that they don't get from just being "Cat People".

Just cause a chicken lays an egg doesn't mean it will hatch, it needs to be incubated. I have basically no understanding on how that works so I'm not going into it. I just wanted to point it out.

It wouldn't work with khajiit, their biology is too different then that of man and mer.

Yep. It's almost like a human trying to [censored] a chimp. You can do it, and you might like it, but you wont get a chimp/human baby as a prize for your efforts.

Imperial: Italian, Greek, Spaniard, darker Europeans
Breton: French, British, lighter Europeans
Nord: Scandinavian
Redguard: Africans
Orc: Native American?
Altmer: Japanese
Bosmer: Chinese/Koreans
Dunmer: Southeast Asians/darker Asians
Kahjit: Middle Eastern
Argonian: Mexican/Latin American

Is this accurate?

Also, I don't think interspecies relations will be any part of the game more than they were for the Grey Prince in Oblivion.

I don't think you can draw that kind of comparison. The races may have similarities to real-world ethnicities, but there are so many differences in culture that there isn't even any point of trying to compare. They may seem that way on the surface, but if you look deeper into any of the ES races, I doubt you would be making lists like these.

For example, I doubt Mexicans' minds can be controlled by special trees.


EDIT: Although, the Nord/Scandinavian comparison is kinda spot on. I think that's what the Devs were going for.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah.. no. You're mixing up fantasy races with human race/ethnicities. Which has nothing to do with breeding as all humans are the same species. All humans are believed to have started in Africa and spread out to the rest of the world.

Imperials, Nords, and Bretons are all nedes and come from Altmora. Redguards are from Yokunda and as of current known history were never at any time related to the other human races. There was also believed to be a now extinct human race that originally hail from tamriel, they were called kothringi.

Why do people always have to make relationships about the assumption that they're gonna have kids together? Have none of you ever heard of Platonic (philosophic, spiritual) and/or non-procreational Erotic relationships (in common english "using an effing condem")? Plus, there's a lot more to six than just penetration, in case anyone is still living under a rock.

I think lizards are beautiful creatures (aesthetically), that doesn't make me a zoophile. I think Arwen is beautiful too (in the movie) as is Mirri in Magic: The Gathering. So, if an Argonian, Khajiit or Mer walked up to me and we talked, and we connected spiritually with the same language, the same interests, humor and more, then why shouldn't we be allowed to get together as see things through? If we can't have kids together, either because my spermcells aren't accepted by her eggcells or the conceiving of kids would produce hereditary diseases, misshapings or whatever (and no, I don't consider mixed breeds to be misshapen, unless they actually have features that limits their functioning and well being), then we simply make it our mission NOT to get offspring. I guess a condem would be hard to get in a medieval world though. Goodyear hasn't exactly been born yet, so we can forget about rubber lol.

Besides, with the rather grotesque interbreeding of various dog species in modern day society, much of which causes dogs to suffer and have a plethora of diseases and problems throughout their lives - it's like people are throwing bricks in a Glass house.

Furthermore, have none of you guys ever heard of asixual people? These are people who simply don't have six because they lack a sixuality, they don't get "turned on" by anything. TBH though, I think a lot of these boxes that people put eachother in, are based on the assumption that relationship is biological and anatomical, which it isn't. It's mostly psychological.

Sorry for the parts where I'm ranting a bit. Just ignore that

I forgot how we got onto the topic of reproduction, but relationships in general I have no problem with. Gay couples obviously can't have kids, unless they adopt or bring in another person, so mixed racial couples could always do that if the wanted kids. I'd be funny to see a Breton and Khajiit relationship were the female breton treats her lover like a housecat.

Even funnier if a Khajiit treated her Breton like one xD

If she wore fake cat ears... god there'd have to be a quest about that couple, I should take up modding if it wasn't for the fact that my laptop can barely run morrowind.