I would like one day to see a TES dedicated to the renewel of an Empire that encompassed all the old races including Dwarves and possibly new races that have not been mentioned in lore before (newly discovered from other lands), The story could be of the connection of these lands to the new Empire by our hand thru diplomacy, be that doing quests for each land to get them to agree to such a thing, or causing destabilization in other countries to make them need the empire, what do you think would such a story appeal to you ? please be creative in your responses.

If you had significant knowledge of TES, you'd know the Dwemer arent coming back, you would also know that Skyrim already answers part of your wish by including the Dwemer architecture in Skyrim and potentially more information about them since they and the Nord had an iffy relationship (violence )

You'd also know that union on Tamriel is a Farce as the empire had to use a metaphysical hax to get everyone to make nice, the other provinces succeeded the moment they got the chance, and in Tamriel's Timeline possibly as far as we know the empire on encompasses Central Cyrodiil, parts of Skyrim and maybe just maybe hammerfell. what you're looking for borders on RTS/Empire management, not the spirit of TES, and would be far more suited to an offshoot I take it.

no lands currently are *newly* discovered as the Empire is aware of the Lands of the Maomer, Thras home of the sloads, several eastern islands as well as yokuda, anything including after that would be a paste on, things we aren't aware of, which isnt new since they did the same with Oblivion's Cyrodiil (supposed to be a jungle or Humid Tropics) Solsthiem in Morrowind, an ancient war with Dragons on Tamriel etc etc

How would the dwarves be returned? They were wiped out simultaneously a long, long time ago. Big incident that involved the Heart of Lorkhan, Kagrenac, and his tools Wraithguard, Sunder, and Keening.

Similarly, the "empire of Tamriel" only really existed during the third era. It was implied in OB that since it was the "end of the third era," that the empire was shattered afterwards. In the first and second eras (which lasted for 3,816 years, versus 433 years for the 3rd Era) the "Empire" was restricted to Cyrodiil alone; in the first Era there was no pan-continental empire, but waxing and waning empires that co-existed and fought.

It wasn't until the end of the second era when Tiber Septim, thanks to his possession of the Numidium, managed to pound the other "provinces" (which had previously been empires in their own right) into submission and accept an uneasy peace with each other as "united." This obviously saw many threats, (even in TES II: Daggerfall, kingdoms WITHIN a province went to war over control of the province) and eventually crumbled at the end; NPCs in Oblivion frequently mention how the Altmer of Summerset Isle seceded from empire immediately... and Skyrim and Morrowind went to war with each other.

Why not do a step back and for TES VI tell the story of the Dwarves disapearance.

because by the almighty words of Pete hines hype man and supposedly be all end all of TES (even though he didn't start it nor was the idea behind it) Todd howard say they dont like going back.

Yeah, we don't have to keep going forward in time. Hell we could go back to the 1E, that'd be neat. Though specifically dealing with the dwarves? No thankyou.

My knowledge of TES lore is fine I assure you as I have played this series since b4 some of you were born lol, and there is always ways around the lore as it is believed, Todd Howard himself has said they do not worry nights about how the story and the lore is lining up " not his exact words of course" this is a supposition and I said use creativity not lets bring out the spanish inquisition lol ( man you guys just sit there in the wings like a spider in a web waiting for the first hint of movement ).

Deep elves and no not rock kicking, short drunkards with thick beards and norse stereotypes, we are talking about elves no taller or shorter than the average elf occasionally sticking the birdy to Deadra and Aedra alike, and thinking on a level beyond such petiness that holds back tamriel this day and intertwining magick and metal alike to create a force unlike anything witnessed on Tamriel before.


my friend the eldest TES is from 1994, hardly anything to call played before most of you were born. also you spelled before b4, so yes your age is in question as well as that statement, and your overall competence with regards to TES, you don't even have to be a Lore buff os psychotic pitch fork wielder waiting to hunt down people who make wrong statements to know your overall request barely applies.

It really wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility that a hidden enclave of dwemer were able to rebuild a civilization in secret. It could make for some great story telling opportunities.

Someone should tell Mr Hines we all have to do things we dont like to bring in the bucks lol

I never knew they have said that, I would just like the past lore to be explained a bit more through gameplay

oh pfft by all means it would be sixy awesome of some hidden enclave of Dwemer came back from another realm, as said before one did it already why not others, its not unlike Dwemer to do such things from what we can gather but he's been around for Centuries, CENTURIES. now maybe Corprus has F'd him beyond reasoning, but im sure if anywhere coming, he'd know/ would have known.





yes, yes some of us do :teehee: while im sure your not the stereotypical person popping up and saying *wouldnt this be cool!* it would be fortunate misconceptions not run rampant on the forums

I dislike all these newcomers who think that "dwarves" in TES are just like the ones you see in World of Warcraft. Instead, in the lore, they're merely called that because supposedly, compared to the giants around at the time, they WERE pretty small. If you happen to play Morrowind and its expansion Tribunal, you'd get plenty of chance to see the "dwarves" of TES; they are distinctly a type of elf, ("dwemer" meaning "deep elves") that look more alien than nordic/scottish.

Um, yes it would be. Had you played Morrowind thoroughly you'd have found why. There was, at that time, exactly ONE dwemer left alive: Yagram Bagarn, an apprentice of Kagrenac. The reason he survived? He happened to be traveling on a plane outside of Nirn when Kagrenac engaged in his experiment that wiped out all the dwemer. He came back, and was unable to sense any other dwemer's existence through the telepathic link that all dwemer had developed by then. Had there been some hidden enclave, he'd have found them.

I wish I could be more clear about hidden, and secret. Fortunately the words are pretty self-explanatory and would essence mean that you wouldn't know about them, including from Morrowind. They could have not shared this telepathic link due to being isolated from the rest of the population. Really, they can do whatever they want, they could have been residing on another plane themselves. You can bash it all you want, but the fact is it can be done, and with a logical lore friendly approach.

If they could add two races for Morrowind, I don't see why they can't add two more races. How about nymphs and centaurs? Or super imperials, that had always existed and just happened to be in charge when everything happens. They can also be bland like the Imperials.

Hmm, he's right, Orcs and Imps are the latest addition to TES, but what are they going to add now? Imga?

To tell the truth I am more interested in the story of the new era to come, as I see it this is the final summation of the last era even tho it is 200 yrs later ? (cant remember at this moment), I know I threw the creation and/or introduction of new races ( but they need not be so radical a change as a new creature altogether more like huns or vandals or franks or even presbyterians for christs sake lol) out there to stir things up a bit but still can no one see the opportunity for a new Empire built on the ashes of the old as always happens in history with borders changing and whole countries disappearing in the turmoil

well most of the provinces have been around for the most part, save for some petty kingdoms no major provinces have come and gone, and we are talking about Thousands of years, 200 is a pitance.

It's not impossible that there might be some dwarves left. You met at least one during the main story of Morrowind. In Tribunal you even pvssyd with a dwemer ghost who helped you with a little project. You should keep in mind that a great deal of lore, is lore from mortal characters within the game world and is only true insofar as their own perspective. In is only what is known that can be written, not only what is written can be known.

they could make a game but instead of being in tamriel just make it in akavir with all the races that live there

I'm not a huge fan of TES lore anyways, so if they want to introduce new things or rewrite lore I wouldn't care.

The absence of true fantasy Dwarves bothers me. It doesn't bother me to the point to where I won't play their games, but come on. Dwarves, in the traditional fantasy sense, are one of the coolest races around.

There's a lot of times I'll read TES Lore and just be like "Why?" It's their lore they can whatever they want to with it, but I just don't understand the reasoning behind some of the things they choose to do.

Kind of like the Underworld movies series. You've got three badass Elder vampires who are the oldest and strongest of their kind and you kill them all off in two movies. Like damn man, you know you could have spread that out and made a much better story.

Too bad for you: the lore is one of the hallmark features that makes TES different from, say, Gothic or any of dozens of others of generic high-fantasy settings, and also a key important feature in ANY of the enduring fanbase.


So fantasy = must have clichéd dwarves? That's pretty narrow. If you wanted them so badly, there ARE other series around to suit your tastes. No need to expect every series will match precisely your preconceived notions.

If they made a future game that took place in Akavir they could add the Tang Mo (monkey men)

and in turn the 10 races on Tamriel at this point in relations would not appear...so we'd get different races like dog men (yes its obscure reference to the many races of Akavir) Monkey people, snow demons Tiger people and Snakes