Inventory objects aren't stacking : IV

» Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:11 am

The problem: Whenever I pick up items from the game world, they are now being treated as individual items when they get put in my inventory, which means they do not stack as you would expect. So instead of getting, say, a stack of three venison, I get three individual units of one venison each when I pick them up.

Only way to fix this is to put the items into a container, which for some reason allows them to stack properly. But then if I try to drop them as individual units, all but one vanishes.

It is definitely a mod causing this. A new game test with full LO and Oblivion.ESM only has confirmed this. The trouble is... which one?

If anyone can offer any input, please do. Until then, I'm going to be going through my load order until I figure out which mod is causing this.

Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 TR_OoT_Main.esm
02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3]
03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73]
04 TamRes.esm
05 Open Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.0.3]
06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
07 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
08 Progress.esm [Version 2.2]
09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.7]
0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.4]
0C SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30]
0D TamRes.esp
0E All Natural.esp [Version 1.3]
0F All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3]
10 Idle Dialogue.esp [Version 1.2]
++ Symphony of Violence.esp
11 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3]
12 WindowLightingSystem.esp
13 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]
14 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.1]
15 FF_Real_Thirst.esp
16 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.0]
17 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.8]
18 DLCHorseArmor.esp
19 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
1A SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11]
1B DLCOrrery.esp
1C DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
1D SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11]
1E DLCVileLair.esp
1F DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21]
20 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
21 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
22 SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.30]
23 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
24 Slof's Horses Base.esp
25 DLCThievesDen.esp
26 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]
27 SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.30]
28 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]
29 OCR+COBL Luggage Patch.esp
2A Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
2B FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp
2C Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-DLT_Remover.esp [Version 1.33]
2D OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
2E ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp
2F Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
30 OCC-KR-Patch.esp [Version 2.0.1]
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
31 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
32 LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5]
33 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4]
34 TR_Stirk.esp
35 Stirk_Compatibility_Patch.esp
36 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
37 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
38 SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.30]
39 DLCfrostcrag.esp
3A DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
3B SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2]
3C AFK_Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2.COBL]
3D Knights.esp
3E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06]
3F OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp [Version 3.0]
40 The Lost Spires.esp
41 OCC-Lost Spires-Patch.esp [Version 3.0]
42 AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.2.COBL]
43 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.6.1]
44 Faregyl.esp [Version 2.0.4]
45 Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.7]
46 Molapi.esp [Version 1.0.1]
47 Vergayun.esp [Version 1.0.6]
48 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4]
49 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
4A xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
4B xulTheHeath.esp
4C XulEntiusGorge.esp
4D xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
4E LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]
4F xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
50 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
51 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
52 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
53 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]
54 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]
55 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
56 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
57 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
58 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
59 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]
5A xulPantherRiver.esp
5B xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
5C xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]
5D xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7]
5E xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]
5F xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
60 KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
61 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]
62 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]
63 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.1]
64 Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
65 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
66 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12]
67 OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp [Version 1.0]
68 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.1]
69 NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp [Version 3.0.1]
6A ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
** ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - Slofs Horses - By Xtudo.esp
6B ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp
6C ImpeREAL Forts + Silverfish River Patch.esp
6D ImpeREAL Forts + Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
6E West Roads.esp
6F BrinaCrossVillage.esp [Version 1.0.3]
70 BrinaCrossVillage -- COBL.esp
71 Brina Cross Village--Unique Forts Patch.esp
72 Frostcrag Village.esp [Version 1.0.3]
73 Fort Akatosh Redux.esp
74 FortAkatoshRedux-NewRoads&Bridges patch.esp
75 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
76 Open Cities New Sheoth.esp [Version 2.0]
77 Open Cities Reborn.esp [Version 1.0.1]
78 ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - OCR.esp [Version 1.1.5]
79 OCR + OOO Patch.esp [Version 3.0.1]
7A OCR+ULCH Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
++ OCC-COBL-Wells.esp
7B OCR+ULBWForest Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]
7C OCR+Cheydinhal Falls Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
7D OC+ULSkingradOutskirts Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
7E Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
7F Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
80 AutoBookPlacer.esp [Version 3.02]
81 Soulgem Magic.esp [Version 1.0]
82 Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 1.0]
83 RealisticFatigue.esp
84 RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.5]
85 RefScope.esp [Version 2.1.2]
86 kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp
87 nGCD.esp
88 nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp
++ nGCD Skeleton Key.esp
89 ProgressArmorer.esp [Version 1.0]
++ Immediate Character Generation.esp
** Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp
** Cava Obscura - SI.esp
** Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.78]
8A bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
8B bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]
8C bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
** bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp [Version 9.0EV-D]
8D bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
8E bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 1.0]
8F OCR + Integration Patch.esp [Version 3.0]
90 Silverfish&bgIntegrationPatch.esp
** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
91 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
** NRB4 OCReborn Road Record.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
++ OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp [Version 1.03]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.3]
92 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
93 Enhanced Seasons.esp [Version 1.3.2]
94 OBGE - Liquid Water.esp

» Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:16 am

If they are items like Pelts, Meats, etc use Refskope and are from Cobl and OOO that is fixed in upcoming 1.35 OOO and next Cobl Update has well..

If they are items like armor, weapons, use refskope and tell me what they are coming from

Else check your bashed patch inventory and make sure that OOO and Cobl are both getting selected under inventory..

» Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:07 am

I was specifically testing with ingredients. All of the ingredients being picked up were vanilla ingredients, so they should have been stacking, but for some reason were not.

However, I have isolated the problem: Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.

Which means the implications here are rather dire. A major backbone of my load order has broken down, one that my current load order has relied on for a very long time. I'm going to test clean-saving OOO, but I am very unsure of where to go from here.

EDIT: Clean-saving was a bust. Now I'm going to check the Bashed Patch.

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:03 pm

I would Update your BASH to SVN Version if not already using it..

Else

Build in Python Mode and see if that make a difference

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:48 pm

Well, I can't say it's the Bashed Patch either, as the problem persisted when I loaded ONLY OOO alongside Oblivion.ESM. I never used CBash for gameplay, so that option is out, too.

I really don't know what has happened here, but it seems OOO has decided it is done working with me.

My only other option was to try to clean-save the ESM from the save, but if I try that, the game hangs up on the load screen when I try to reload the game.

EDIT: And it's also occurring with OOO loaded in a new game.

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:00 pm

I've had this happen and I don't run OOO... It has to do with the extended attributes on the items. Are you running Display Stats? I think that had a problem that caused this at one point, but TNO fixed it, so you might want to check that you're running the most recent version.

» Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:32 am

I've never used Display Stats, so I'm not exactly sure I follow you here.

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:22 pm

Well. The problem seems to be mostly related to food items. Basically, if it is a vanilla placed food item that is not considered stolen when I pick it up, it is being treated incorrectly as being its own individual item instead of being grouped together. At least, until I put the food away in a container or sell it, then it gets stacked properly.

If the food is stolen, bought, or is placed by a mod, then this doesn't happen.

As for why OOO is the cause of all this... I really cannot say.

» Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:04 am

Well. The problem seems to be mostly related to food items. Basically, if it is a vanilla placed food item that is not considered stolen when I pick it up, it is being treated incorrectly as being its own individual item instead of being grouped together. At least, until I put the food away in a container or sell it, then it gets stacked properly.

If the food is stolen, bought, or is placed by a mod, then this doesn't happen.

As for why OOO is the cause of all this... I really cannot say.

Try the No Guild Ownership optional esp, from the OOO 133 package.

» Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:34 am

... Double-yew Tee Eff...

That actually seems to have worked. :wacko: :violin: :unsure:

Looks like I'll be omitting the guild ownership portion of OOO from here on out.