Invisible Skeletons! : V

» Thu May 08, 2014 1:57 am

Sorry if this forum does not deal with addon issues (which I think this is).. if necessary, relocated it and let me know where it should be posted.

For a long time (at least 5 months) I have not been able to see certain types of skeletons and skeleton based creatures. (I can still see draugr though. I can also see the ones that stand around below Lakeview manor). For the ones that are invisible, I can only see their glowing eyes and weapons/armor. Normally this is not a big deal since they are occasional and usually there is only one or two of them.

However, I am trying out the black rock temple mod and one of the first rooms is FULL of them and they drain health pretty quickly. I really need to get these guys visible to have an acceptable chance at success...so I need to fix this bug. (It's annoying anyway!).

I have tried as some posts around the internet suggest (the only ones I can find that have a solution) and disabled both the immersive creatures and the Monsters Mod. This didn't solve anything. Please help! These are the only mods I have installed that I know of that involve skeletons.

My current mod list is below. I have deactivated SkyMoMod and Immersive Creatures temporarily. Merged modes are NOT an issue because I just did that recently (though I suppose it could be one of the mods I merged. Not likely though since the untested ones are simply armor, game behavior, and patch mods). Oh... and unless you can give me a really good reason why this same issue always occurs and nothing else no matter which set of mods I have active, please don't tell me that this is because I have too many mods. I have been adding and removing mods from this large collection for a long time now and this issue is constant, while all other issues have come and gone.

Mods:

Spoiler

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Falskaar.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

AzarHair.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

CoD Waking Nightmare II.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

Ket_ARMONIZER_v2.esm

mannyBlackRock.esm

moonpath.esm

ORS_SolitudeGate.esm

Sanctum of the Fallen.esm

SPERG.esm

SPIKE.esm

LCOA.esm

HjakhtraevarrTomb.esm

HiResTexturePackMerge.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

FixedEyeAdaption.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Morning Fogs.esp

SplashofRain.esp

ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp

bardsoundsmalukah.esp

Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp

Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp

fantasy music overhaul.esp

fantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp

SMEMMerge.esp

TradeBarter.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes_HighSpawn.esp

BabettesFeastBalanced.esp

BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

Birdsofskyrim.esp

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

Catsofskyrim.esp

Char Your Own Skeevers.esp

Chesko_WearableLantersMerged.esp

CookingExpanded.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp

DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp

DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp

Dogsofskyrim.esp

QuieterDogs.esp

dragonsoulstoperks.esp

DungeonQuestAwareness.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

FishingInSkyrim.esp

ImmersiveSpells.esp

ImprovedFishBASIC.esp

More Salt Please.esp

More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

MVABasic.esp

MVAIvarstead.esp

MVARorikstead.esp

RabbitsPlus.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp

Realistic Wildlife Loot - Realistic.esp

Realistic Wildlife Loot - Realistic - Dragonborn patch.esp

RedMountainErupts.esp

ShootingStars.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Smoking Torches.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

Wild Horses of Skyrim.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp

TorchArrow-Dawnguard.esp

3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp

XAC.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp

FinewearMerged.esp

MergedArmorWeapons.esp

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons DD.esp

ERSO 03.3 - Mighty Dawnguard Dragons.esp

ERSO 03.4 - Mighty Dragonborn Dragons.esp

DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp

ERSO 03.5 - New Dragon Super Loots.esp

MIDFollowMeCloser.esp

Ashenguard.esp

AuroraVillage.esp

Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

CoD Waking Nightmare II.esp

Convenient Horse Herding.esp

CornerofTheSkyrim.esp

CZHCAD.esp

CZHCAD_DG.esp

CZHCAD_HF.esp

elvenwood.esp

EpicBossFight.esp

FortHeljarchen.esp

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

Hunting in Skyrim - No Perks.esp

Lakeview_Extended.esp

Lakeview_Extended_Basemant.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

My Home Is Your Home.esp

MzarkWonders.esp

OwenHoliday-HearthFire-WindstadManor_Fortify.esp

RabbitHole.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

Solstheim - The Lost Levels.esp

Syerscote.esp

tarjekin islands.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Tundra Defense.esp

Undercity.esp

whiterunMarket.esp

Wyrmstooth.esp

ZaBorski_2_3.esp

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

AchieveThat.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

DiversePriests.esp

DynamicMerchants.esp

FalskaarDawnguard.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

HorsesGoneWild.esp

JM_BetterAlchemySatchel.esp

Ket_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

SkyFalls - Distant Waterfall Overhaul.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

ETaC - Villages Complete.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

NerniesRangerPack.esp

Pinewood Village.esp

Solitude A City Of Trade.esp

WhiterunAlivePiano.esp

AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp

EnvEffectsMerge.esp

SkyrimSewers.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

FogAndStormsMerge.esp

RoostersSoSPatchMerge.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

MidasSkyrim.esp

Midas Magic Expanded.esp

EnchantmentOverhaul.esp

Fortify Enchanting necklace.esp

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

UltimateCombat.esp

Soul Gems Differ - E.esp

SPERG.esp

Brows.esp

3DNPC.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp

Cooking Expanded - RND Support.esp

RNDPatchMerge.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

FFBosmer.esp

FFNords.esp

KhajiitChildren.esp

My_Little_kitty_non_replaced.esp

marriagemod - alpha v3.esp

Spousetocustomhome.esp

Follower Trap Safety.esp

HugMe.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectivesAddonsMerged.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

getSnowy.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaters2merge.esp

Unrecognized Mods

Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp

BlacksmithforgeWaterFixMerged.esp

DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp

BTRH_PrivateSquad.esp

starling plugin.esp

DragonFallsFortress.esp

RWL_Megaloceros_LVL.esp

Craftable Black Soul Gems At NIght Standalone - Daedra Heart Version.esp

Travel By Boat.esp

FFImperialBixham.esp

AIOFMerge.esp

SkyrimEstates.esp

adura_skyrimmerchantmod.esp

Shadow of Morrowind.esp

w2salem.esp

LCOAUpdate.esp

» Thu May 08, 2014 8:49 am

First off did you run Boss or Loot.

I noticed that your unofficial patches are not in the right spot since the most recent versions should be right under the plugin they patch.

For one you do have a large number of mods and when dealing with mods the more you use the greater chance of having issues.

Any other texture replacers since they might not have a plugin.

Did you create a new character or go to a save before you installed those mods that you disabled.

Any of those mods adds or changes skeletons even if it is only for that mod quest it might have still corrupted the generic skeleton

» Thu May 08, 2014 1:36 pm

IN addition......

Do you know what mod changes the skeleton? Might try simply reinstalling it or check for potential mod patches on the author page that you may have missed. You

have to be careful mods don't overwrite eachother. I 2nd the load order sorting with probably Loot at this point although BOSS could work too.

» Thu May 08, 2014 12:01 pm

There's a few mods I don't recognize, but if a mod has disabled or changed the skeleton skeleton, that file could be still there and overriding the default skeleton, even if the MoMod and SIC have their plugins disabled.

You mentioned you'd been having this problem for several months, and I can see some older files in there too like Guard Dialogue Overhauls' old SPIKE esm. The Monster Mod claims to have fixed some invisible creatures in the 3.1 update this year, have you tried updating to the latest MoMod?