BC Issues (Load Order Suspected) : IV

» Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:58 am

I have been having problems with BC; first Leyawiin became very unstable, which I 'fixed' by an uninstall, reinstall. Then exiting cities became a certain crash - except when fast traveling to another city/part of same city. Haven't managed to fix it this time with an uninstall/reinstall. I use OBMM (which makes the uninstall/reinstall easy), BOSS and Wrye (all most recent updates). My load order certainly is different than it was before I started having problems but BOSS shows no issues and the bashed patch is green.

The PC is fairly high end (twin 3.2 GHz processors, which had been overclocked to 3.7 GHz, but turned down as overclocking has given me issues in the past), twin 1 GB video cards, 6 GB of ram (ram fix installed) . Windows 7 but not installed in Program Files. Load order below:

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0]
02 Windfall.esm
03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5]
04 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
05 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
07 TamRes.esm
08 Qarls_Harvest.esm
09 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
0A Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
0B Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
0C CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
0D (DC)A Saints Tale Master.esm
0E TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
0F FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
10 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
11 Artifacts.esm
12 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
13 Better Cities Resources.esm
14 SoVvM.esm
15 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.6]
16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
17 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
18 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
19 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1A FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1B All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
** All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
** All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
1C Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
++ Atmospheric Oblivion - Real Lights patch.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]
1D Crowded Roads.esp [Version 2.0]
1E Immersive Travelers.esp
1F Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02]
** DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
20 DLCOrrery.esp
** DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
21 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
22 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
23 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
24 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
** Roberts Armamentium female.esp
25 The Last Queen Of The Ayleids.esp
26 DLCThievesDen.esp
27 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
** DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
** OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
28 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
29 Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
2A FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2B Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
2C FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
** Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
++ ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.35]
++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.35]
2D ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
++ ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.35]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
** FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
2F FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
30 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
31 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.39c]
32 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
33 Qarls_Harvest addon_MMM.esp
++ Atmospheric Oblivion - MMM Patch.esp
++ Atmospheric Oblivion - OOO Patch.esp
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
34 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.7a]
35 300_Artifacts.esp
36 3_Numbers_v.1.0.esp
37 AyleidQuest.esp
38 Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp
** Artifacts.esp
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
39 AyleidArrows.esp [Version 1.8]
3A CDEP_FanaCeya.esp
3B (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp
3C Demonhunter.esp
3D goldenarrowarcheryshopfixedprices.esp
3E HackdirtCaverns.esp
3F Feudal Empire 300.esp
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
40 EiAmod.esp [Version 1.1]
++ EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp
++ EiAmod_ChoicesandConsequences.esp
41 GlenvarCastle.esp
42 LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp
43 Order of the Virtuous Blood Expanded v0.3.esp
44 rebornaylieds.esp
45 Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
** Ruins of Tarnesia.esp [Version 1.0]
46 SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp
47 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.0.3]
48 The Power of the North.esp
49 TheElderCouncil.esp
4A VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
4B WellspringGrove.esp
4C Woodland Rangers.esp
4D za_bankmod.esp
4E sir_balin_mod.esp
4F DLCFrostcrag.esp
** DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
50 Knights.esp
51 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
52 CybiadesDungeon.esp [Version 2.1]
53 The Lost Spires.esp
54 AFK_Weye.esp
55 GuardsofCyrodiilRedux.esp [Version 1.02]
56 Blood&Mud.esp
57 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
58 Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 6]
59 The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
5A Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
** FCOM_OMG.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9]
5B ElsweyrAnequina.esp
5C road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.1]
5D xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.1]
5E xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
5F xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.3]
60 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
61 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
62 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
63 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
64 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]
65 NakedNord.esp
66 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3]
67 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1]
68 bartholm.esp
69 Fort Akatosh Redux.esp
6A Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
6B LastUnicorn.esp
++ Short Grass V3.esp
6C M.O.E. - Main Quest Delayer.esp [Version 3]
6D RealHungerv1.4.esp
6E RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.3.4]
6F StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp
++ Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
++ OOO-Level_Slow.esp [Version 1.33]
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
70 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
71 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Vanilla.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
72 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
73 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993]
++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]
** Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
74 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp
** Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
** Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
** Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
75 Better Imperial City.esp
++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp
++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-creatures.esp
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ Bashed Delayers E - MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.08]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]

Thanks for any suggestions.

» Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:09 pm

I have been having problems with BC; first Leyawiin became very unstable, which I 'fixed' by an uninstall, reinstall. Then exiting cities became a certain crash - except when fast traveling to another city/part of same city. Haven't managed to fix it this time with an uninstall/reinstall. I use OBMM (which makes the uninstall/reinstall easy), BOSS and Wrye (all most recent updates). My load order certainly is different than it was before I started having problems but BOSS shows no issues and the bashed patch is green.

The PC is fairly high end (twin 3.2 GHz processors, which had been overclocked to 3.7 GHz, but turned down as overclocking has given me issues in the past), twin 1 GB video cards, 6 GB of ram (ram fix installed) . Windows 7 but not installed in Program Files. Load order below:

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nothing to do with Better Cities. Something else in your load order has upset your gamesave, or two mods are conflicting, or you've recently uninstalled a mod whose scripts were still being processed and now the game has some duff scripts still running which it doesn't know how to resolve.

» Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:10 pm

Nothing to do with Better Cities. Something else in your load order has upset your gamesave, or two mods are conflicting, or you've recently uninstalled a mod whose scripts were still being processed and now the game has some duff scripts still running which it doesn't know how to resolve.