They wouldn't have this the first thing that was announced about the game if iy was substantial or important. what do you rekon they mean by direct sequel as so far the story and the world seem to be going in a completely different direction from Oblivion.
I think that it may be reffering to the turmoil in the empire that everyone talk about in Oblivion.
What do others think will happen?

It won't be a direct sequel. TES sequels have never been and this won't be the first time.

I think it just means that the story plays later in the timeline. Not that the story of Skyrim takes place a few weeks after the events of Oblivion already.

If you didn't hear it -DIRECTLY- from Bethesda here on the forums, don't believe it.


Its not a Direct Sequel, its Chronological Sequel just like all the other past titles.

This. It simply means it's a sequal in the same line of games.

From how I see it, it seems that Skyrim will be a direct sequel to Oblivion in that the events that occurred in Oblivion were the catalyst for the events that will happen in Skyrim. Nothing more.

Exactly. And think about it. Skyrim takes place after the novels. If it did not don't you think the novels would have mentioned a giant dragon god being stopped from devouring the world?

unless of course something akin to a Dragon break occured, and since Arena the players exploits has never appeared in Books, they all -Disappear- so thats not much of an argument for Skyrim being after Infernal city. and with that statement, if Skyrim took place after Infernal city, wouldnt the Narrator speak of the Infernal city which was far more horrifiying than the Oblivion Crisis?

Bethesda has never said its a "direct sequel" to Oblivion. That was a rumour started by eurogamer. Blame inadequate reporting for your confusion.

Hopefully it occurs after The Events of The Infernal City.

Actually, if you mean in game. The players exploits from past games have appeared in books. They are just known as "The Eternal Champion" for instance instead of Rolf the uber who was the Eternal Champion. If you mean the players exploits appearing in the book the Infernal City, I don't recall if they did or not. I read it when it was first released. If anything I'm sure it mentioned the Oblivion crisis and the Champion of Cyrodiil. As for the trailer it was a teaser for Skyrim. Not for the Infernal City. It would be really stupid if the narrator talked about the Infernal City instead of what's going to happen in Skyrim.

Also, if the Infernal City and it's sequel are not meant to bridge the gap between Oblivion and Skyrim then what are they for? Why would they be telling us a story set after the thing the books are supposed to be gathering hype for? Look at the Mass Effect novels. They've had one set before the events of each game to generate hype and tell some backstory. That's what the Infernal City and it's sequel are.

I'm not part of the "Its a direct sequel!!!" crowd or anything.... but to argue that its not going to be a true Oblivion sequel because none of the 4 previous Elder Scrolls games were sequels is foolish. Just because Bethesda hasn't done it before does not at all mean they won't do it this time. And no one, including yourself has any real idea what Skyrim will or won't be. You know absolutely nothing about the game other then its name and the fact it uses a new graphics and rendering engine. So its wrong to declare anything with such certainty.

What say you in regards to the Love letter?

and to the poster above.


To be a Direct sequel you need to use the same character/ some similarities to previous characters. Beth games have never functioned that way, and if it did in Skyrim, that would be a blow in a sense to how the franchise was portrayed in Games past, so its not really foolish to believe this wont be a direct sequel. especially since it is thought that the COC is now Sheogorath from Oblivion.

Well played sir. As I wrote my post I knew you would bring that up. And my response to that is the love letter was something written by MK and was not written to hype a upcoming release of the next game in the series. :shrug:

but both were written without any knowlegde atleast to us with regards to another game on the horizon

You'll still hug me though right?

Hold on there sir, Bethesda started developing Skyrim near the end of Fallout 3's cycle. So, they* certainly knew another game was on the horizon and thus had good ole Greg Keyes write two novels to freshen people up on Elder Scrolls and build hype! Checkmate.

Oh, and of course! :hugs:

*Even though we did not

LOL, with Oblivion sells assuming the company didn t knew a sequel was coming is pathetic.

of course we knew a game -was- coming, when I said Horizon I am refering to as close as the game is to release prior to -us- knowing about it.


point?

IC had a shizaarr load of informaiton and events post Oblivion, but the trailer only spoke about the Oblivion crisis, instead of lets say, Tamriel is in Turmoil (because in IC it is) a Meteor nuking Vvardenfel is a big thing, why not elaborate on that? a broad vocal would have been enough just saying Tamriel is in trouble, but it doesn't the Oblivion crisis was mentioned and that affected all of Tamriel, and the Speaker was very personal in his refferal to what was going on .

guess we'll just have to wait and see.

It's quite possible that the destruction of Vvardenfell and Umbriel's attack do not share any direct relationship with Skyrim, but the event's of Oblivion are either correlated or causal towards the events of Skyrim. It could also be that gamesas mentioned Oblivion because Oblivion was the last game in the series and most people who play TES know what happened in Oblivion, but not necessarily what happened in a unfinished set of books.

This whole "direct sequel" business is silly. By definition, all sequels are both direct and chronological. Saying "direct' or "chronological" sequel is just redundant. Anyway you slice it, TES V will always be a direct sequel to TES IV. I suppose if you want to split hairs it would be an indirect sequel to TES III.

ooo, landfall most certainly affects skyrim, as well.

snow throat starts coughing and whatnot.

Landfall probably does effect it, but more people know Oblivion than the Infernal City.

Actually, just shot yourself in the foot. Direct implies that we will continue playing as the Champion of Cyrodiil (player). The Halo series is a good example of this, and so are most movies about a single character. Had Shivering Isles been a stand-alone game, it would have been a direct sequel. (Assuming we play as ourselves from Oblivion)

im not sure what ur getting at exactly, but...i think ur meaning to say that more game players know about oblivion than landfall. in that case, ur making the book and the loveletter (/and some other obscure lore tidbits) non-cannon. because that means theyre tailoring to mainstream kids who played oblivion on x-box and thot the horses looked cool, then somehow decided to make skyrim later on AFTER the book, but yet they made the events thats happened in the book not really happen because....??? the entire provience of skyrim would most-likely be killed off by the throat of the world asploding. lol so idk, i think it'll be after oblivion, but before the book.

it also makes no sense that there WOUDLNT be a dragon brake, because akatosh being positioned into a mortal avatar and then breaking free, in all sense of origonal tes lore, would make time bend like a hot noodle. but who knows, i dont hold my hopes up too too high from bethesda anymore anyway. like OMG A DRAGON IS GONNA END THE WORLD. lol, no. akatosh doesnt exactly do that, tho the JYLS and some big, hungry aether unstar farters sure have that agenda in mind.

I wonder how many people actually want it to be a direct sequel. Personally I think the less the story has to do with Oblivion the better. No Oblivion 2 for me, thanks.