there are no in game changes no matter how you play the game in new vegas, the game plays out exactly the same, at no point in the game do you see the omertas attack the strip or mr house robots do anything, or ceasers legion attacking anywhere except at the dam, its like the only epic moment is at the very end of the game, and sure the writing was good in new vegas, it did have good writing and dialogue and lots of npcs, thats all cool, but the drama, suspense and action and the other elements really weren't there until the very end of the game, its like a movie thats totally boring until the last 5 minutes, something not very satisfying about that, the journey is where its at, not the end game slides, but how fun the journey is all the way through, not being bored the entire game and having to wait till the last battle to have some action, drama and suspense.

Yes they were, I love political intrigue. I have a love for NCR.

By the way, it may seem hard to believe, but my first Fallout game was FO3. I loved it at first, but after playing FO1, I realized a ton of stuff.

i think part of the problem was obsidian didn't have enough time to really execute everything they needed to execute, it did have tons of very good aspects to it, but its like the game was incomplete still, how about ceasers legion attacking various areas of the map half way through the game, or having shock troops show up in force part way through, its like nothing epic happens until the end of the game, the battle at the dam was pretty good, it needed a few more moments like that during the game, maybe not quite so epic but something, so maybe they didn't have time to do everything they wanted and had to just prioritize the best they could. but another 6 months of working on it might of helped a lot.

Yes exactly. they needed more time but they didnt have enough. So they came out with this incomplete thing. No matter what side you do it doesnt have any consequences. Like in F3 you blow up megaton people talk about it. Or the purifier alot of stuff changes. FNV each side is the same dealling with the boomers or something in order.

You're consequences are dealt in the ending slides, so, they're there. Thats why the game has an ending.

Oh, and almost nothing changed in FO3 besides a crater and water, thats it.

More than i can say for FNV.

You mean building or destroying the entire Mojave? I felt like I had more influence over the Mojave than D.C. In fact, D.C. was just about as bad as Cyrodil was. Neither game made me feel what I did was important at all.

Your consequences arent even considered in FNV. F3 you put that dish on top of the monument and bam for your conseqences you got a outcome. not hardly any quest in FNV has that type of stuff except for Nelson and yet they dont even do anything there to fix it.

ending slides are not very important to me, the actual gameplay experience is what matters to me.

exactly epic, i agree, there were more of your consequences in FO3 actually happen in the game, in new vegas none of your actions have consequences because the game is over before your conseqeunces can be seen.

Stop complaining about the plot then, if you don't give a [censored] for any outcome because you can't play it doesn't make the game "bad" or "incomplete"

How about you actually play Fallout, and Fallout 2, once you have, then you'll stop complaining about the ending slides.

Also you talk about the great story of fallout 3... It was great. IN Fallout 1, and 2, but Fallout 3 ripped it off and ruined it.

Really though If I was bored with a Fallout game it would probably happen if I was playing a 2D version of it with terrible graphics and ... oh wait, they already made a Fallout with terrible graphics in 2D? Oh???

how could you ever get bored of fallout 3 and fallout new Vegas i say there is endless fun and endless possibilities

*facepalm*

You sir just... there are no words to describe.

yes its called fallout 1 and fallout 2 lol

but in fallout 3 ive beateb the game about 28 times and still not bored and everytime i beat it i kept that file for about a month in my fallout 3 file now i have about 72% of the special stuff weapons misc aids everything

I have 2 agree as much as much as fonv the onlytime there is a drastic change to the mojave(wich is shown to u in a pretty slide yay can't w8 2 catch em all)is ifu choose the evil route cesar .In a game wich is all gray wink wink there more evil than the enclave fo3s story is more gray bos help every one now enclave help every one l8r and rebuild america.

yes i rather fallout 3 way more i had it since the day it came out then bout game of the year when it came out and still loving it lol

I don't get how anybody can call themselves a gamer when they bash a game made in 1998 just because of its graphics. Go watch a movie, I hear Transformers 2 has some awesome graphics.

i dont hate fallout 1 and fallout 2 lol

:toughninja: FO1 and 2 has nothing to do with the lack of content in new vegas, there's tons of threads on how boring new vegas is after the first couple playthroughs, it is what it is, new vegas just didn't live up to the hype and has no replay value and obsdian went for the "believable" and "plausible" approach but the game isn't fun, believable, or plausible, the map is static, there's no exploration, all they did was put a lot of tents and shacks on the map and left the rest of it barren and desolate with not even one random event/encounter on the entire map, there is not one reason to cruise around the map once you've been to a location, lets face it guys, new vegas is a big letdown, it had some promise and potential though, but it just came up short.

I am tired, truly tired, of arguing with TES fans about what Fallout should be like, they just cannot be swayed.

me to the game is fine the way it is XD

it was fine the way it was. Better, even.

I asked the modders to make a David Caruso character for my amusemant, complete with automatic sunglasses removal.

They took it as a joke, but i was serious.

I guess you could say (puts on sunglasses for bad pun), INSERT BAD PUN

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