I guess you should be able to master everything, but not easily. If your character is a sneaky sneakerson, then learning how to wear massive armor, or casting spells should be a little more challenging. Of course we should have the option of making a warrior/mage or a theif/mage at the beggining. But if you don't specialize in a certain skill it shouldn't be easy to pick it up.

Here's and idea. Let's say your base is magic. You didn't select restoration as a major skill, but since you're already a mage it should be easier to learn. But if you try to learn something like blade or blunt, then it'd be a little more difficult.

Not sure how that would work with the passive skills ( speech and what have you) but for combat-centred skills? :shrug:

You have the wrong view of what an RPG is if you want the game to decide what you want based on what class you create.
None of those choices are even close to out of character from any objective point of view. :facepalm:

if i want the game??? yea i want it can you give it to me?? lol!! and please learn to speak correct, what you say doesnt make any sense, and the choices actually were refering to 1 fight 2 stealth, thiefery 3 magic
which means that whats the point of being a mage if you choose to brake the door with your bare hands, but i guess this is a very complex calculation for you to make

You didn't mention anything about how, what about destruction magic for option 1? Or alteration magic for option 2? This doesn't have anything to do with skills, but with role playing. How do you want to do something is the question here, nothing about which skills to use.

Edit: My bad, I wanted to write "if you want the game to decide", not "if you want the game decide".

If I want to bash someone with my hammer, cast a spell or sneak up with my bow, I should be able too. In EVERY ES games you could do whatever you want to, and they won;t change it.

the question is very simple but i doubt that you will ever get it... if you choose to be a mage then why choose to brake it with your bare hands, can you please answer that question?

I think the problem the hardcoe TES fanatics have is a fear of the "slippery slope". "If you change things it will forever ruin the balance of the universe and the earth will plunge into the sun and the devil will eat my baby's soul!" Tweaking the skills a bit is not the same as NOT ALLOWING YOU TO DO ALL THE SKILLS IF YOU WANT TO. Is that easier to comprehend? I do not mean to be rude.... just really tired and cranky.

Clearly you didn't read what I wrote because if you did you'd see that's exactly what I'm advocating. If you want a different gameplay experience make it so. Create a class and stick to those rules so that each time you create a character it's different. However, just because you think a class should be a certain way doesn't mean that another players class choice should be restricted by some in game mechanic. If you can't stick to a role on your own without a developer holding your hand then you clearly don't know how to play a Bethesda RPG.



Also, I find your attempts and correcting grammar amusing.

But then of course you'll have those people who want to change their occupation.

Because I want to. Doing the same thing again and again can get boring. Sometimes you get tired of being a mage, but don't want to restart the game and use a new character (you are fond of your character, are very far in the quest line etc) so you start using more physical skills. Now, you can be a warrior if you want, but still have the option to be a mage. I'm not saying that the current skill system is perfect, I'm just saying don't make me choose one option (mage, thief, warrior) and stick with it if I don't want to. As some said a long time ago in some thread;

"A baker can shoot skeet on the weekend." Or something similar to that.

If you haven't figured it out already, I voted for "Jack of all Trades" for the reasons above.

I m sorry, go to my past replies and read them, i have explained everything, other people who have the same view have some pretty good explanations also, i cant repeat the same things to everyone

There should be a way to be a powerful hybrid class without being detrimental to the "pure" classes. In TES: IV, it was, somewhat, imperative to create a class that relies on magic, whether it was Restoration, Alteration, or even Alchemy.

lol!!! its pretty obvious what you have voted, and i dont care actually, we re just talking, well ok its cool, i want to be able to have two different charactes with two different attributes and not just one who is doing everything

Where did you say anything about using your bare hands? How about using...

Pidgeonholing is just as bad as allowing every character to be gods at everything, thus significantly reducing re-playability and difficulty. (which is bad for a SPRPG)



A simple way to appease both sides is to just make minor skills much harder to level up. Don't cap them, don't take their perks away, just make it hard. If you reach 100 in every skill this means it took you an extremely long time and you deserved the godmode it gives.

This makes your major skill choices all that more important, and helps define you're playthrough. You still can easily be a hybrid off the bat, but not a master-of-all unless you spend some insane hours in this game.

I m very glad that i amuse you

The phrase is "Jack of all trades, master of none" for a reason. =/

and please teach me how to play a bethesda game, pleeease!!!!!

I'm not saying that you can't, I just don't want the option to be removed. That post was a little too serious, I didn't mean for it to turn out like that, and in no way was I offended by your opinion, I was just sharing mine, and answering you question.

Key words: could be. You can choose to develop all of your character's skills or you can choose to level as a specialist. TES is all about having options. Your experience is much more player-controlled than in most RPGs. Whether you like that is a matter of taste.

Yea its cool

Sure.

Step 1. Play the game the way Bethesda has always advocated (read the beginning of their gameplay manuals it's quite enlightening): Play it any which way you want.

Step 2. Play the game however you want and not the way someone else tells you.

Well said!!!

the poll choice says "Jack of all trades (master everything)"

And sadly its true for Morrowind and Oblivion, leveling minor skills was too easy. It should be changed to be harder to level them past 30-skill, but as a trade-off you level majors slightly faster. This bolsters the player's choices and brings uniqueness to multiple characters you may have without strictly pigeonholing.

Thanks a lot man, i mean, it means a lot really, where did you get that knowledge? god bless you!!!!