Jacobstown = practice for Skyrim?

Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:31 pm

So I was thinking, a lot of the developers who worked on New Vegas are probably going to be working on Skyrim too. As we haven't had any Skyrim screenshots or anything yet, we don't really have much of an idea about what it will look like. However, there is one area in New Vegas, called Jacobstown, which seems to share a very similar environment to the province of Skyrim, with lots of snow, mountains and evergreen trees. Is it that implausible that perhaps what we will see in Skyrim will be similar to what these developers made in New Vegas? In particular, the screenshots below.

The purpose of this thread, I suppose, if just to give you guys something to look at in the absence of any real Skyrim screenshots. I think it's pretty likely that graphically, the latest installment of the Elder Scrolls series will be similar to the following pics, although clearly with improved graphics and a less post-apocalptic ambience:

http://i54.tinypic.com/1ypfmd.png

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/153/jacob2.png

http://i53.tinypic.com/2n1gm7d.png

http://i53.tinypic.com/6nw6r9.png

Thoughts? (p.s. ignore the robotic dog, lol)
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Post » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:41 am

So I was thinking, a lot of the developers who worked on New Vegas are probably going to be working on Skyrim too.

Skyrim is being developed by Bethesda Game Studios while New Vegas was developed by Obsidian Entertainment. Both games are being published by Bethesda Softworks but they have different developement teams on opposite sides of the country.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:39 pm

Man, I think the north of Oblivion looked better. Also what the Donner party said.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:16 pm

Man, I think the north of Oblivion looked better. Also what the Donner party said.

I see what you did there. :hehe:
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:01 pm

I really hope it does not look like that.......considering they are using a whole new engine. I hope it looks much much better than those shots.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:00 pm

I really hope it does not look like that.......considering they are using a whole new engine. I hope it looks much much better than those shots.


Not to worry! It will look nothing like that ;) Obsidian made fallout new vegas with bethesda's old engine, not the new engine
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:24 pm

To be honest that looks primative. Is that what new vegas is like graphically??? I haven't played it, only Fallout 3. Which one is better?

If TESV looks like that i will be seriously disapointed!
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:40 pm

To be honest that looks primative. Is that what new vegas is like graphically??? I haven't played it, only Fallout 3. Which one is better?

If TESV looks like that i will be seriously disapointed!


New Vegas is better ;) but yeah graphically its outdated as hell, didn't ruin the game though, I enjoyed it, but the bugs in the game was a little annoying.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:40 pm

Skyrim is being developed by Bethesda Game Studios while New Vegas was developed by Obsidian Entertainment. Both games are being published by Bethesda Softworks but they have different developement teams on opposite sides of the country.


That is quite true, seeing as the team that developed New Vegas is part of Obsidian, it seems unlikely that they'd have any involvement in Skyrim's development, and Bethesda has already done snowy mountains in the games they have developed, and I'd say that the Jerall Mountains in Oblivion are probably closer to what we're likely to see in Skyrim than Jacobstown in terms of design. Though we can probably assume that the whole map wouldn't look like that, as it would get pretty monotonous if the entire game was just one generic kind of terrain. If nothing else, I'm sure we'll see it actually snow in Skyrim, as opposed to every day of every week just having clear skies all day long...

I'd also imagine that Skyrim will look better in technical terms than Oblivion or New Vegas, with the new engine and all that, but that's to be expected.
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Post » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:50 am

Wow, that looks incredibly...unimpressive. It's passable but I hope BGS knows their snow better than Obsidian.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:39 pm

Funny, the first time I thought how it would look, i imagined Jacobstown.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:56 pm

If you look at TES III and TES IV there are similarities in the landscape design despite having different engines. In both cases the foundation terrain is a mesh where vertexes can be raised or lowered vertically and on top of this (and through it) are more detailed terrain models. It's certainly conceivable that TES V will have the same basic setup, it probably works well for large open world games.

So looking at Jacobstown and northern Cyrodiil does make some sense. While TES V will have a more advanced engine it may give us an approximation . . . and at the least it will be interesting to compare TES V screenshots to these areas.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:49 pm

Oh yeah, it will certainly be with better graphics in Skyrim, and it will probably have a much less "dirty" look (because there won't have been a nuclear war).
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:07 pm

Nope. It will be something entirely different. It's been stated countless times that they are using a whole new engine, that alone removes all possibilities it resembling any of the previous games built with Gamebryo.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:20 pm

haha yes, practice. they were practicing how to make towns and add snow textures. you caught them IN THE ACT.
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Post » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:57 am

So I was thinking, a lot of the developers who worked on New Vegas are probably going to be working on Skyrim too.


Not likely, seeing as the games are made by two entirely different companies.
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Post » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:25 am

No Nightstalkers in Skyrim, please.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:55 pm

Skyrim is being developed by Bethesda Game Studios while New Vegas was developed by Obsidian Entertainment. Both games are being published by Bethesda Softworks but they have different developement teams on opposite sides of the country.


Just to add to this. It also seems that development of both games was going on at the same time. As far as I know New Vegas dev started after Fallout 3, and Skyrim started just before the end of Fallout 3.

On top of that :hubbahubba: completely different engine ^_^

If you look at TES III and TES IV there are similarities in the landscape design despite having different engines. In both cases the foundation terrain is a mesh where vertexes can be raised or lowered vertically and on top of this (and through it) are more detailed terrain models. It's certainly conceivable that TES V will have the same basic setup, it probably works well for large open world games.

So looking at Jacobstown and northern Cyrodiil does make some sense. While TES V will have a more advanced engine it may give us an approximation . . . and at the least it will be interesting to compare TES V screenshots to these areas.


I thought both Morrowind and Oblivion used the Gamebryo engine. (Plus I just cheched wikipedia, and we all know how reliable that is) Fallout and Fallout:NV used that same engine too.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:37 pm

http://i54.tinypic.com/1ypfmd.png

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/153/jacob2.png

http://i53.tinypic.com/2n1gm7d.png

http://i53.tinypic.com/6nw6r9.png

Thoughts? (p.s. ignore the robotic dog, lol)

I don't think you're giving Bethesda enough credit. These environments will look like PS2 graphics compared to what's about to be unveiled.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:37 pm

You play on low graphics or a lower resolutions right? Because my game looks much better than that.
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Post » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:42 am

I thought both Morrowind and Oblivion used the Gamebryo engine. (Plus I just cheched wikipedia, and we all know how reliable that is) Fallout and Fallout:NV used that same engine too.

Both Morrowind and Oblivion use Gamebryo. Their different versions of Gamebryo though. I think people tend to think the engine was changed because gamesas's recent games have been far enough apart that major advances in graphics occur in the mean-time.
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Post » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:00 am

I hope not, that looks horrible.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:23 pm

Check around the City Of Bruma as that Area is the closest that we'll get to Skyrim until we get more information
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:39 pm

To be honest that looks primative. Is that what new vegas is like graphically??? I haven't played it, only Fallout 3. Which one is better?

If TESV looks like that i will be seriously disapointed!


They look the same.

In fact they look pretty much the same as Oblivion also. The engine hasn't improved much.

I don't think the person who took those shots has a very impressive PC though, Jacobstown looks much better for me.
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Post » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:36 pm

I haven't played it, only Fallout 3. Which one is better?


Depends which forum you ask in. :D

Ask in the Fallout 3 forums and you'll get page after page of people explaining that Fallout 3 is uhokerrably and unarguably superior.

Ask in the New Vegas forums and you'll get page after page of people explaining that New Vegas is uhokerrably and unarguably superior.
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