Jagar Tharn indirectly assasinated Calaxes Septim.

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:40 am

I don't beleive this has ever been discussed before, but in the book "Words and Philosophy" we read about Calaxes, another one of the Emperor's Bastard Sons, who gets assasinated by the Imperial Guard, after rumors of a Theocratic Uprising that he may, or may not be planning. The date of his assasination is the year 3E 398, a year before the Eternal Champion kicks Jagar Tharn all the way back to when Anu and Padomay were the same thing. Now, while Calaxes could not of been Jagar Tharn's Child (because he wasn't in power long enough), it was still him that had Calaxes assasinated, but as the text (Words and Philosophy again) seems to indicate it was during the time of Jagar Tharn's Imposter-Rule that he got into the position of Archbishop (by just being the Emperor's Bastard son).

Now, this is confusing, because none of the other Emperor's Sons made any recorded attempt at overthrowing Jagar Tharn (who they would of thought was just their father out of his mind), and they could of gotten a larger supportbase from the population than Calaxes (because, I highly doubt that even in Cyrodiil, a proposed Theocratic rule would of gone down well with public opinion), however this could be due to the posible double-gangers put in place by Jagar Tharn (or atleast the rumors from morrowind seemed to indicate).


So, what I'm wondering is if Jagar Tharn, fearing revolution and the provinces breaking off, tryed the tactic of "making-up" a fake Bastard-Heir, gave him some power in the church, and then got his advisors to put into his head ideas of Theocratical Revolution, and from there all Jagar Tharn would have to do is to kill this made-up identity of Calaxes Septim, when the rumors of his uprising spread just enough to scare the people; from which could 1) put fear in the supporters of Calaxes 2) put hope and enthusiasm into the people of Cyrodiil, to reassure them that he was a good leader.


So, how well does this Theory go down?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:40 pm

What's a Theocratic Uprising?

A religious revolution?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:22 pm

I like it. Then again, I'm a conspiracy theorist at heart. There's no evidence to support it really, but it is possible. Calaxes could have been a simulacrum. Tharn liked those, and it's his style.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:31 am

What's a Theocratic Uprising?

A religious revolution?


It means in this context, that the church, being lead by Calaxes, and posible support from the public, might of/was planning to kick out the Elder Council, and the Emperor (Jagar Tharn at this time), replacing it with direct rule from the Church (most likely with Calaxes as ruler).

I like it. Then again, I'm a conspiracy theorist at heart. There's no evidence to support it really, but it is possible. Calaxes could have been a simulacrum. Tharn liked those, and it's his style.


It's his only style. He couldn't legitimatly lead the Empire out of a paper pag.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:25 pm

I always thought Sly Uri was behind it, but I've never read it wherever it showed up originally.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:34 am

I love the theory but then I'm as Astion said a conspiracy fantast. And I have also as paw-prints always thought Sly as the one responsibel.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:57 am

Meh, I don't like it. It seems odd that even after Jagar Tharn falls, Uriel would never DENOUNCE the FAKE HEIR that he put up. Seems a bit counter-intuitive, no?

Besides, if they ever need Calaxes back as a character, it's http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4089673/2/Dragonblood.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:04 pm

Meh, I don't like it. It seems odd that even after Jagar Tharn falls, Uriel would never DENOUNCE the FAKE HEIR that he put up. Seems a bit counter-intuitive, no?

Besides, if they ever need Calaxes back as a character, it's http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4089673/2/Dragonblood.


The reasoning behind why he might never denounce him could be 1) there was chance that Calaxes was infact a bastard son of his (Uriel has had affairs before), and since Calaxes his dead, there would be no longer anyway of confirming eitherway 2) by denouncing him, he could be posibly be connecting his own Imperial Guard to the faked assasination, which would put the peoples faith in the guard in the fire, and could also out him in danger from his own guard (those who remained loyal to Jagar Tharn, or had connections to the assasination, or the oringinal plot to inprison him which didn't want to go prison, like other conspires of Jagar Tharn ended up (and not the nice ones in Cyrodiil, the horible one in the middle of Argonia's Marshes)).
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