You do see her in the photograph (which I believe was cut from F3) which forms a major "arguement" for this theory; she was African American.

So its perfectly plausible then, this theory, of course it would be pretty iffy and has alot of maybes adn things based on wild speculation.

God forbid Jesse Ventura finds this thread.

And since Lynette of Vault City is African American, this makes the Lone Wanderer a citizen of Vault City by Decent!

Besides, we all know that James is really from Tattooine

Catherine, like James, does not have a canon race (this was confirmed by GStaff a while back). The difference between the two is that Catherine dies during the introduction, so Bethesda didn't have to apply the same dynamic race and face feature to her that they did to James. Either character having a canon race would impact how the Lone Wanderer looks.

Regardless, I think people who believe that Obsidian making use of a cut photograph from Fallout 3 in New Vegas means that James and Catherine are from Vault 21 are looking too deeply into it. The photograph is either an easter egg, or it's meant to be seen as two different people.



He was originally a Jawa. True story.

It all makes sense now....

although the Enclave did have the advantage of Virtibirds which must have been semi long-range vehicles. And the BOS walked from the West too, via the Pitt. Quite a trip.

James isn't a bookworm though, if you travel with him he can hold is own with a gun. So he was born outside of a vault, a wastelander, but in some kind of scientific college/tribe setting.

I always wondered whether they weren't Enclave. Working on Purity expressly for the purpose the Enclave had in mind, although may be have been working under "need to know". And when the scientists found out that it wasn't actually to give fresh water to the wasteland, they did a runner. When the LW was born, James got into the vault "for safety"... from whom? Why didn't he just hold up in Rivet City with Lee and the rest? Because he knew how to make purity work, so he was the one the Enclave were hunting.

Maybe. Or something.

If that were the case then the LW would be a human and therefore immune to the effects of the posioned water, which he is not.

He would have to be inncoulated, would he not?

I don't know, I don't think that the even further modified FEV used in F3 requires a vaccination and it just "seeks" non pure-strain humans ( <_< ); in either event the LW evidently has had niether an innoculation or is pure-strain as he is harmed by the virus.

I don't think that's possible. I'm more likely to chalk this up to Eden lying, he never had any intention of letting the Lone Wanderer join the Enclave, he just wanted him or her to do his dirty work. The virus in Fallout 3 probably kills just as indiscriminately as the Fallout 2 variant did.

Yeah I agree to that, pretty clear that Eden was just manipulating the LW with "promises of riches" as it were; a man cannot simply become a US Army Colonel or whatever, particularly not one who made a career out of killing Enclave citizens.

Well maybe, eh did this because the LW is pure-strain.

I mean where did all those damn scientists get trained.

In teh wasteland. Okay its possible but unlikely.

LW is not a pure-strain human, that is what we have just discussed.

Where did they get trained? [censored] knows, where did Pinkerton (with his facial surgery), all the Doctors, Lekso (who apparently genetically modified ants to breath fire!), all the scientists in Rivet City. They just trained themselves I assume.

Thats pretty stupid.

Bethesda's School of Magicka :grad:

Okay, everyone with any kind of training is an escapee from the Enclave, Brotherhood or Commonwealth; much mroe realistic.

They were trained by older scientists and doctors, like an apprentice.

"Doctor" actually comes from docēre meaning 'to teach'. In fallout's world, the term could be returning to its roots. "Doctors" in addition to their research/healing duties also have a duty to tech those below them.

Vaults would also contain a lot of pre-war textbooks, and I'd imagine the NCR has at least one university going.

Wow, no need to get snarky.




Makes sense.

Well yeah, you know what I meant. Like that women in Novac and her gaurds say that "I don't think she studied at a credited institution," meaning that the idea of a doctor being untrained in the NCR is rare; I think it's mentioned that the Followers have a medical university.

Ok after reading all that i really want the good old doc to meet the lone wanderer

A lot of the evidence just sounds like Easter eggs: there's a photo and license plates, so?

And then the big one is that Doc Mitchell "knows what it's like to lose something important to you." The game seems to imply that he's talking about Vault 21 or his wife, not a son.

To me the picture in Vault 21 looks like Hildern with Old Lady Palmer

Maybe an Uncle. I think it would have been cooler if they had NV take place later in time, then made references that Mitchell was the lone wanderer, which still would have made sense, even with all the dialog remaining.