http://ca.news.yahoo.com/japan-dump-11-500-tons-radioactive-water-sea-20110404-014134-688.html



Lots of mutated fishes are going to pop up in Japanese seas in the near future. And the Japanese live on fish.

This is madness! It hits 8 on the blasphemy scale! Why put it in the water where evryone across the globe shares?

11,500 tons of radioactive water wont matter much on global scale. AFAIK

Maybe coast and local seafood will suffer, but in global scale? nope.

JAPAN: We will be the first nation to properly dispose of radioactive waste! Just use the VERY THING WE ALL LIVE OFF OF.

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Yeah, they are going to have to battle some pretty tough dolphins. Like ones that can shoot energy beams from their eyes and squeak as loud as the sonic weapons.

The papers I read this morning say they are planning/building a wall to prevent leakage to the sea, or something similar.

Too late for negotiations, already dumped.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/japan-starts-dumping-radioactive-water-sea-20110404-045303-833.html

Most of the radioactivity is iodine, with a half life of 8 days. The lifetime of the radioactivity is small, the amount dumped is small. It is almost impossible for there to be any ecological effects from this.

We'll wait a few years and see what the fishes at the dumping area look like. They already said that they would quarantine the zone from fishing, how can that be "no ecological effects"?

Highly radioactive water has been leaking into the sea for days if not longer, so I doubt this is their main concern, as shocking as it is.

Liability issues.

Here's an example:

I work at wal-mart. If I have a broken jug of bleach, I can't dump it down the drain, it is illegal to do so even though millions of people every day mop their floors using bleach and them pour the remainder down the drain. Why is it illegal? Liability issues.

Good point. But radiation is really bad, if just a tiny bit. They said Chernobyl was fine after the disaster, but why did so many infants get born deformed around the area?

Mireluks? :whistling:

Of course water like this issue, but especially (radioactive dust) particles that get in the body and never leave. The concentration of that depending on how far away and how downwind they were.

You can look it up but yes, the authorities did tell the people not to worry during the Chernobyl disaster, and that everything was fine. Though the people learned the truth soon enough. Obviously Japan is doing anything they can to stop something like the catastrophe of Chernobyl from happening again.

For sake of comparison I thought I would mention that the Deepwater Horizon spill last year amounted to 6.4 million tons of released contaminant, with toxins which will remain in the ecological chain for a lot longer than the short-halflife isotopes in this Japanese release (which should only last about a week, as PhYoshi mentioned.)

Real life Blinkys!
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Blinky


Nah, the dolphins are already singing the Star Spangled Banner

As for the dumping, wasn't it the lesser of two evils? 1) dump this short half-life water in order to contain higher-half life water. 2) Don't dump and let the longer half-life water keep seeping.

All re need is for Raymond Burr to show up...then you KNOW we are in trouble!

I saw a mudcrab the other day...

Disgusting creatures . . .

The Mutant Turtles will become Samurai and preform seppuku for failing their mission in assassinating the Fish Shognate of Seapan...

Oh, we are serious are we?

And thus, Godzilla was created.

Just for the sake of not being total misinformation, this is nothing like chernobyl. Chernobyl was effectively a dirty bomb, an entire reactor's worth of nuclear fuel being thrown up into the atmosphere and left to settle for hundreds of miles around. It was literally the worst case of worst cases.

For putting everything into a bit of scale: In order to go above safe radioactive limits, you cannot take a banana into a reactor chamber. Not because you might get things dirty, but because the banana is radioactive enough to go over the safe limits. If you open a banana in the reactor room on a nuclear submarine, you have to get a decontamination team in there. Eating one banana every day for a year irradiates you more than living in immediate proximity to three mile island after the meltdown. Radioactive safety measures are incredibly strict, and breaking them does not mean chernobyl. Chernobyl is a literal impossibility here - it can go badly, but it's not out of control yet, and even the worst case will not come anywhere near chernobyl.

The main issue is dealing with concentration vs. dispersion ratio and how quickly the radiation will disperse within a large body of water such as the Pacific ocean. If I had to equate it to anything it would be like putting a drop of food coloring into a swimming pool. You know it went in, but is barely noticeable if even possibly detectable once it is fully dispersed. Also as said that radioactive material will decay into nothing within a period of time depending upon the different types. Only thing that concerns me is them using that infernal MOX blend of Plutonium and Uranium Oxide.

Smart move Japanese.

When you get a Nuclear crisis, you gotta bring it to all of us.

I wish more people would read and actually try to understand posts like these. But of course ignoring them and crying doom and destruction is much simpler.