:meh:

I resent this thread.

I hope he chased them to the west. Hey, what province is that?

TES V: The cliff racers return!

It actually says in the imperial library that most of "Morrwind's" cities were destroyed.

Here is the quote:

"The eruption of Red Mountain destroyed “most” of Morrowind's cities. p.234"

He had good intentions

Since i've never played Morrowind (sorry :unsure2: ), I thought you was grumbling about a member of this forum :facepalm:
Sort of back on topic, this St. Jiub reminds me of St. Patrick who drove all the cliffracers snakes out of Ireland.
I'm probably not the first person to think that though.

Anyway, I don't mind encountering any cliffracers seeing as i've never fought any before, but I assume people who have played Morrowind are quite fed up with them...

Yeah, Hircine would tell you otherwise but 99% of us agree that Cliff Racers do not even deserve capital letters at the beginning of their name.

:lol: I know right? I thought of that too!

this is hilarius.

Actually, I don't mind them either. I just like thinking of them as evil eternal conspirators. I killed them easily enough by level 2.

Hmm... <_<

I have never heard a good argument against Cliff Racers in TESV. Please, enlighten me.

That's probably because 99.99% of the arguments about Cliff Racers have been about TESIII. I would honestly have no problem with them in TESV, they could probably make them pretty sweet too. But I think they might not go down that road, mainly because of the intense hatred a lot of people have for them in Morrowind.

They make loud screechy repetitive noises that are made worse from the large amount of them. "they" and "them" being Cliff Racers.

The creatures themselves are not bad, the way they were shown in Morrowind was terrible.

Exactly. Cliff Racers may have been a tad annoying in Morrowind (though nowhere near as much people make out, imo), but I don't see what people have against seeing them again.

On a standard journey from, say, Vivec to Pelagiad, I might find, perhaps, 3 Cliff Racers? Maybe 5? While this is a bit much, it doesn't make them the bane of TES. There are far worse creatures throughout the games.

Cliff Racers are quite exaggerated, yes. They still are annoying and on a standard journey from Ald 'ruhn to Maar Gan you might be attacked by about 2-5 but you will hear about 8 of them.

I personally have nothing wrong with them in lore because, and I quote: "The development team has admitted the sheer amount of cliff racers in the game was a mistake."

This is my whole point! :bonk:

We aren't supposed to agree! What's going on!?

I encounter two of them half of the time I arrive at a temple via Almsivi intervention and I can oftenly see three at a time. They get stuck in the air but still follow me horizontally, so they take far too long to get close to my blade's reach and they get stuck in trees. I recently downloaded a mod to get rid of them. If only I could get rid of slaughterfish, as well. It's not cliffracers themselves that I hate, but the way they were portrayed was annoying. I feel the same way about slaughterfish. In Morrowind, they always attacked me while I was in water. In Oblivion, they were more rare and not so much of a nuisance. Cliffracers could be brought back in a non-annoying way, but I still hate the one way they have ever been portrayed.

In Skyrim there could be Glacier Racers (i stole that name from someone I forget who). They could fly really high up and when you go underneath them they shoot downwards like a hawk or an eagle. They would be a stealthy species too so they would not squak and screach. Bethesda would do this just to clean the name of the Cliff Racer.

Again, this is exactly my point.

They could possibly be a sub-species of Cliff Racer that inhabits Skyrim which could look more bat-like, with thick icy fur and small horns or antlers for that nordic feel.
They could also have an ability to walk on land like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlTdSqgZEP0&feature=related.

Sorry if this post has drifted from the topic of St. Jiub, but i'm nearly falling asleep at the moment...

edit: Ignore the bit about walking, I just realised that cliff racers don't even have legs :facepalm:

Yeah, Morrowind's wildlife was way too aggressive. You really wonder how there could be any animals (or people) left by the time the game starts if they're attacking left and right. There is a http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=mods.detail&id=175 for Morrowind which makes wildlife more defensive or outright passive unless provoked. I hope Bethesda does something similar with the next game, especially if it's a locale such as Skyrim where you'd expect a lot of Pagan undertones about the natural environment and whatnot.

He sent them to Skyrim where the Nords killed them and proved that REAL men can kill cliff racers and puny dark elves are failures for living in fear of these pathetic excuse for a enemy. That's my view on cliff racers in Morrowind, seriously I want a challenge, I kill these things easily on level 1. And yes I have been swarmed many times before.

http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Barioth

*sniff* my baby's all grown up...

If cliffracers return, I want to ride them, and they should invent an ingame sport involving them called cliffracing. It would involve cliffs, racing, and cliffracers, but I'm not sure how it all fits together.

They should really be called "FlyEverywhereAndTakeFiftyMinutesToGetDownToTheGroundConstantlyEmittingAnAnnoyingLoudScreechEveryFewInchesracers.

:rofl: I vote for both of these as suggestions for TESV! :rofl:

I would laugh audibly for an irrationally large fraction of my meager existence if they did show up in Skyrim - and if the Nords managed to subdue and domesticate them within mere weeks of their encroachment. I could already imagine using them as gliders to cross the valleys!