[Rel/Wip] John's Leveled List Overhaul : IV - Oblivion

» Mon May 02, 2011 2:07 pm

Guards with Morrowind Guard armor sounds cool, but would renaming vanilla armors play nicely with other mods changing them, for example giving them OMOBS stats etc.? Not sure, but it seems it might cause issues. Well, perhaps it can be sorted out with the Bashed Patch in that case.

Yup, something can always be patched one way or the other, be it by a Bashed Patch or a handcrafted patch. I just don't think anything should hold a modder back on doing things the way he wants to.

EDIT:

Also, would you really call Cyrodiilic Steel Armors that in Cyrodiil? It's a bit like if Swedes would call meatballs "Swedish meatballs".

Hehe, at IKEA they are called Swedish Meatballs here indeed. But I guess that's different in Sweden! Anyway when using mods like Tamriel Heightmaps using the term Cyrodiilic Armor doesn't seem out of place.

» Mon May 02, 2011 1:04 pm

This sounds great. Patiently awaiting an FCOM patch

Can't wait!

» Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm

@Arkngt- thats a good point, never thought of that, but i think going to go ahead with it anyways. The bashed patch should fix it as long inventory is imported. I think so at anyrate ill check in the wrye bash thread. but then again, you have Cyrodillic brandy found through Cyrodiil, no?
@captaincannibal- you should have a partial patch soon, im just working on the OOO weapons patch, that will be up soon.

EDIT: added plugin progress updates to original post

» Mon May 02, 2011 5:26 pm

@Arkngt- thats a good point, never thought of that, but i think going to go ahead with it anyways. The bashed patch should fix it as long inventory is imported. I think so at anyrate ill check in the wrye bash thread. but then again, you have Cyrodillic brandy found through Cyrodiil, no?
@captaincannibal- you should have a partial patch soon, im just working on the OOO weapons patch, that will be up soon.

EDIT: added plugin progress updates to original post

Yes, I should have added that I think you should go for it. Sounds cool and it's also logical when having variants from other regions. Plus modders should follow their visions as StarX pointed out. Looking forward to the OOO/FCOM patches.

EDIT: Also, my point is contradicted not only by brandy but by all the regional armors from Cyrodiil, Kvatch Cuirass etc.

» Mon May 02, 2011 5:25 pm

@Arkngt- thx, progress may have slowed though, i just my morrowind collectors edition in the mail

» Mon May 02, 2011 9:51 am

a little update, i finished the majority of leveled lists for OOO-Weapons today. just the base lists of the different weapons and it ill be done! i wont release it until i finish the armours though so you'll have to wait!

these lists should fit into FCOM actually as a base list, minus FCOM's lists. Wrye bash required of course

» Mon May 02, 2011 12:34 pm

What do you mean by minus FCOM's lists?

What was your verdict on tackling an unleveled version for overhauls like TIE and WAC?

» Mon May 02, 2011 7:04 pm

no i meant minus the lists FCOM adds, because doesnt it use its own LL in addition to the rest of its base plugins lists? or am i mistaken?

» Mon May 02, 2011 2:11 pm

a little update, i finished the majority of leveled lists for OOO-Weapons today. just the base lists of the different weapons and it ill be done! i wont release it until i finish the armours though so you'll have to wait!

these lists should fit into FCOM actually as a base list, minus FCOM's lists. Wrye bash required of course

And it would be great if you would let me look over the OOO version before you release it so that it can get "seal of approval." from TEAM Alpha (OOO/FCOM) developers..

no i meant minus the lists FCOM adds, because doesnt it use its own LL in addition to the rest of its base plugins lists? or am i mistaken?

It has some LL of it own but those are to bring Warcry and Frans Item into the Mix with OOO stuff. And Rebalance a few things.

But if you are making a OOO patch itself then no need to make a FCOM patch since OOO version can be used instead with FCOM..

If you are adding the items to OOO leveledlist itself then you should be okay , once again send it before you release so that I can look it over and give you advice on what needs to get fixed.

Corepc

» Mon May 02, 2011 7:52 am

And it would be great if you would let me look over the OOO version before you release it so that it can get "seal of approval." from TEAM Alpha (OOO/FCOM) developers..

It has some LL of it own but those are to bring Warcry and Frans Item into the Mix with OOO stuff. And Rebalance a few things.

But if you are making a OOO patch itself then no need to make a FCOM patch since OOO version can be used instead with FCOM..

If you are adding the items to OOO leveledlist itself then you should be okay , once again send it before you release so that I can look it over and give you advice on what needs to get fixed.

Corepc

oh wow that would be quite an honour!

getting the OOO team to check something i made im happy now! now im inspired to get this thing done! and yes i have been adding directly to the leveled lists of OOO

» Mon May 02, 2011 6:18 pm

oh wow that would be quite an honour!

getting the OOO team to check something i made im happy now! now im inspired to get this thing done! and yes i have been adding directly to the leveled lists of OOO

Well you asked in fcom thread and I never did answer you.

but if you are adding item into OOO leveledlist itself then I do not see any problem once again. Just has long has you added them to right leveledlist after all, there are some list that should be avoided and there are some list that you have be careful with has some are quest releated and some are not used at all. hence the reason why I want to check it over before you release it..Would hate for you put something into the wrong list and it end up breaking gameplay balancing in OOO/FCOM..

» Mon May 02, 2011 5:25 am

well all i asked for was if there was a template for new items, though probably a good idea still, just to make sure i havent altered anything that would break the game. im gonna need beta testers for it as well, as i dont eun an OOO/FCOM set-up. thx again corepc

» Mon May 02, 2011 8:40 pm

so pretty well all the lists up to claymores are done. that leaves the daggers, shortswords, longswords, maces, war axes and war hammers lists to attack and then i shall be done the OOO plugins patch. then i can get started on the armours plugin. also updated original post with progress updates

» Mon May 02, 2011 7:27 am

im gonna need beta testers for it as well, as i dont eun an OOO/FCOM set-up.

I'd gladly test it. Just drop me a PM or something when/if needed.

» Mon May 02, 2011 5:08 pm

@arkngt- really? thx, ill shoot ya a pm when the weapons plugin is does, probably a few more days until that though.

» Mon May 02, 2011 9:48 am

I really love this mod...it adds so much GREATNESS to the game!

Johnboy, you are a GENIUS!

» Mon May 02, 2011 8:15 pm

are you playing it richard? id be interested in feedback...

» Mon May 02, 2011 8:31 am

Some feedback...It really is great to see the new suits on the IC guards...and I like the shields that have the spike poking forward in the middle.

» Mon May 02, 2011 9:13 am

I've been playing it and it has been awesome so far! I'm using it along with MMM, and it's making for a very interesting game so far.

One thing I've been thinking about though is the icons, they aren't really consistent (I realize why, because it's a resource of armors made by different people), so I've been thinking about redoing all of them to fit in with the vanilla ones.

But anyways, yeah haven't found any bugs with this mod so far yet.

» Mon May 02, 2011 3:57 pm

IC guards have different armour :blink: i dont remember changing the guards in the IC only in the towns... can you get me the ID of those guards Richard?

» Mon May 02, 2011 1:19 pm

Maybe I am playing a different mod also...I have 254 running!

» Mon May 02, 2011 11:17 am

@shadowbeast- great to hear! which icons are you speaking of? i know alot have the same ones, but which specifically
@richard- lol that may be why. there will be new guard armours in the next release though

» Mon May 02, 2011 11:27 am

@shadowbeast- great to hear! which icons are you speaking of? i know alot have the same ones, but which specifically

I haven't really checked through them yet, but some of them sort of bothered me. I remember the same thing being the case when I had Vvardenfell imports installed. I'll let you know when I get around to looking through the files.

Also, I remember in my game the guards in the Imperial city had different armors too. I'll have to have a second look though, because that was a while ago when I noticed that.

» Mon May 02, 2011 11:41 pm

@shadowbeast- your having trouble with guard armours to? strange i havent seen a single change in my game :blink:

» Mon May 02, 2011 4:16 pm

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx220/shadowbeast368/guardarmor.png I'm pretty sure I started seeing it when I installed your mod, but I don't know if I would report it as an error since it looks so cool!