[RELz] John's Leveled List Overhaul : IV - Oblivion

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:08 pm

You really ought to check out the use of the userlist feature in the new BOSS - it is the simplest way to add overrides and additions to a load order. In fact amazingly simple. Here is one userlist I use:

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ADD: Environment Mods - Merged.espAFTER: Natural Selection.espADD: All Natural - Bravil Mages Fix.espAFTER: All Natural - SI.espADD: All Natural - SI Settlements NIW Support.espAFTER: All Natural - Bravil Mages Fix.espADD: UI Mods Merged.espAFTER: Streamline 3.1.espADD: Home Care Mods Merged.espAFTER: Enhanced Hotkeys.espOVERRIDE: FortAkatosh-MannimarcoResurrection-NewRoads&Bridges patch.esp AFTER: Fort Akatosh Redux.espADD: All Natural - Losing My Religion Interior Patch.espAFTER: Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.espADD: Oblivifall - Losing My Religion CATH CHANGES.espAFTER: All Natural - Losing My Religion Interior Patch.espADD: Dialogue and Messages Merged.espAFTER: Enhanced Vegetation [125%].espADD: Game Tweaks Merged.espAFTER: Dialogue and Messages Merged.espADD: Stealth Mods Merged.espAFTER: Game Tweaks Merged.esp ADD: Progress Plugins Merged.espAFTER: RealisticLeveling.espOVERRIDE: Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.espAFTER: Bashed Patch, 0.espOVERRIDE: Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp AFTER: Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.espOVERRIDE: Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.espAFTER: Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.espOVERRIDE: Duke Patricks - Basic Combat Geometry.espAFTER: Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.espOVERRIDE: Duke Patricks - Momentum Damage And Jump Risk.espAFTER: Duke Patricks - Basic Combat Geometry.espOVERRIDE: Duke Patricks - SCA Melee Combat with NO RECOIL.espAFTER: Duke Patricks - Momentum Damage And Jump Risk.espOVERRIDE: Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.espAFTER: Duke Patricks - SCA Melee Combat with NO RECOIL.espOVERRIDE: Duke Patricks - Combat Magic II.espAFTER: Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.espOVERRIDE: Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.espAFTER: Duke Patricks - Combat Magic II.esp

Just add mods like this to a simple txt file and keep in BOSS folder. If a mod from it is not installed then it just skips it. Much simpler than Surazal's BOSS manager. It does not update your masterlist but rather reads this list of exceptions at execution and then adds them after reading the masterlist.

I'm still running the old version of BOSS. i use it frequently and i dislike how it uses an html document as its log. my computer i play and mod on is isnt internet connected and i havent changed browsers from IE which is really slow IME.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:55 pm

I'm all about firefox and have about 40 mods on my firefox.

I like the internet and I'm on it enough that it justifies my paying for a fast connection (even though I know it is a rip off).

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:58 pm

i just checked in with the BOSS team, they did move it up. seems i was mistaken. disregard my LO suggestions then. anyways if you can i really need that FormID FInder report, it'll tell me everything

Well, how would I accomplish that since i can't get it as long as they are holding the weapon, and when they die they disappear since they are summoned?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:36 pm

An extremely handy mod called http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29127 - load and activate it (doesn't matter where). Then in game come within grabbing/pickpocket distance (with cursor over the character) and click the right shift key. It will then print to the console every mod affecting or adding to the actor (read the download page for details).

Get ConScribe for ability to have printable/savable console reports.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:28 pm

You really ought to check out the use of the userlist feature in the new BOSS - it is the simplest way to add overrides and additions to a load order. In fact amazingly simple.

An extremely handy mod called http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29127 - load and activate it (doesn't matter where). Then in game come within grabbing/pickpocket distance (with cursor over the character) and click the right shift key. It will then print to the console every mod affecting or adding to the actor (read the download page for details).

Get ConScribe for ability to have printable/savable console reports.

Great stuff, Psymon. I was not yet aware of / familiar with either of these.

Regards,

Hem

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:33 pm

I'm having issues with getting FormID finder to work. I just did a clean install of Oblivion too. (well re-install would be more accurate.)

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:08 pm

Refscope would be another option if FormID Finder doesn't work!

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:54 pm

Well, how would I accomplish that since i can't get it as long as they are holding the weapon, and when they die they disappear since they are summoned?

open the console and type in tcai. this toggles combat ai in-game

An extremely handy mod called http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29127 - load and activate it (doesn't matter where). Then in game come within grabbing/pickpocket distance (with cursor over the character) and click the right shift key. It will then print to the console every mod affecting or adding to the actor (read the download page for details).

Get ConScribe for ability to have printable/savable console reports.

thx for the lin, this looks really interesting!

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:48 pm

yup i have. let me ask you something have you merged ionis's mod straight in without changing the leveled lists names or items names? if you havent we have a problem then, but luckily its fixable.

Sorry John, I'm WAY behind on my messages. I know you sent me a PM a day or two ago on this, sorry I haven't responded yet

I actually did not do any merging. Instead, I took Ionis' weapon resources, and set up brand new Mithril and Orcish weapons in the CS. Then I added those to the vanilla leveled lists where needed. Other than the meshes, textures, and icons, nothing came from Ionis' mod.
Hope that helps!

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:09 pm

Sorry John, I'm WAY behind on my messages. I know you sent me a PM a day or two ago on this, sorry I haven't responded yet

I actually did not do any merging. Instead, I took Ionis' weapon resources, and set up brand new Mithril and Orcish weapons in the CS. Then I added those to the vanilla leveled lists where needed. Other than the meshes, textures, and icons, nothing came from Ionis' mod.
Hope that helps!

thats perfect! we shouldnt have incompatibilities then as long as wrye bash is used :pints:

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:37 am

@Poddmeister: i found your missing mesh! few dirty edits from i removed at the last second cause they didnt look too good on quality, but forgot to remove the entries from the .esm. hotfix coming today!

EDIT: Hotfix is available on the nexus

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:10 am

Just another mod to be included to this mod, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15943. IMO this mod is in the same league with Vvardenfell Imports, except this mod is from Skyrim.

And thanks for fixing missing mesh.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:46 am

An extremely handy mod called http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29127 - load and activate it (doesn't matter where). Then in game come within grabbing/pickpocket distance (with cursor over the character) and click the right shift key. It will then print to the console every mod affecting or adding to the actor (read the download page for details).

Get ConScribe for ability to have printable/savable console reports.

I already had ConScribe because TNO recommended it when I was reporting an issue with QLM. I have now downloaded Refscope. Refscope is working.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:25 pm

Just another mod to be included to this mod, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15943. IMO this mod is in the same league with Vvardenfell Imports, except this mod is from Skyrim.

And thanks for fixing missing mesh.

your welcome! ive got quite a few things in there that are included in vvardenfel imports, but i see somethings i dont have, ill talk to sage and see if we cant get that in here!

I already had ConScribe because TNO recommended it when I was reporting an issue with QLM. I have now downloaded Refscope. Refscope is working.

well im glad refskope is working for you! sorry we couldnt get FormIDFinder to work for ya though!

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:05 pm

On closer inspection you did include the mithril arrows mesh, but the esm still directs the game to weapons>Mithril>Arrows and not to Johns>Mithril>Arrows.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:45 pm

On closer inspection you did include the mithril arrows mesh, but the esm still directs the game to weapons>Mithril>Arrows and not to Johns>Mithril>Arrows.

hmm musta put it in the wrong folder gimme a second ill put a fix up

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:23 am

Heya before you do that, the texture is having the same problem, and I cannot seem to find it's texture. Sorry to have to be the devil's advocate here =/ I really like your mod lol. I have been stalking it and waiting for the OOO patch since your first release, Awesome I'll dl the new hotfix asap.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:19 pm

@Sean144800- no i appreciate it thx! seems a few files got skipped in the packaging, everything is in the new hotfix to fix the reported bugs thus far

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:51 pm

John - check your inbox - I replied to your PM

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:18 pm

Just downloaded this and started a new character. Ran through the first level of Vilverin and saw a good mix of the new items. Looking at the prices in my inventory, I was a little afraid I'd come back with a small fortune right off the bat. But after coming back to the IC to actually sell, it seemed pretty reasonable on what I sold everything for. (Note - I am using Enhanced Economy). After using this for 30 minutes, I am definitely enjoying. Great variety on the bandits I've fought so far. I look forward to playing a lot more with this mod active.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:39 pm

John - check your inbox - I replied to your PM

thx ani, sent back to ya

@Maguskain- glad your enjoying

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:52 pm

Are any of the new armors added by this mod compatible with the HGEC body?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:56 am

Are any of the new armors added by this mod compatible with the HGEC body?

umm i dont think so no. most are made to fit the vanilla bodies. i never check to see if there was body replacer compatible meshes, suppose i should

Hey something new for you guys, I added a dropbox mirror which is now working. This links contains a BAIN ready archive with BSA and all hotfixes included

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:31 pm

Yeah, I didn't think so, pretty sure most of the mods you've included have never had alternate body replacer meshes made for them, didn't hurt to ask though. Maybe if I'm lucky this mod will catch the eye of the EVE team and they can make a conversion patch... yeah, I'll keep dreaming. :laugh:

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:54 am

Yeah, I didn't think so, pretty sure most of the mods you've included have never had alternate body replacer meshes made for them, didn't hurt to ask though. Maybe if I'm lucky this mod will catch the eye of the EVE team and they can make a conversion patch... yeah, I'll keep dreaming. :laugh:

i found an exnem patch for 5 of the armors, ghogiels ones specifically. i might include those. i wish there was a roberts male and female conversion though, that would be awesome! i'd do it if i had the time, patience and knew how

I've been working on this http://www.invision.tesalliance.org/forums/uploads/1289618720/gallery_640_167_60577.png for some of the night, what do you guys think? i like him personally, i mi9ght include him in the creatures mod instead of that steg