And it's with an orc, but somehow feels right with this character. I'm usually strongly anti-stormcloak, but this character just seemed to progress this way. He joined the dark brotherhood where the story line... spoiler alert.... basically is attacking the empire quite severely in the end, and he seemed to just grow an organic disdain for the legion from the start. He also fell in love with, and married, Temba Wide Arms, a strong nord woman, and what capped it off I think was hearing an orc talk about how orcs have lived in skyrim since long before the nords arrived, and I just started seeing my orc kind of like some australian aborigines I know in real life (specifically an uncle of mine), who aren't exactly in love with white australians and everything they've done, but still side with them as "australians" over foreign "invaders". I started to imagine my orc was a native skyrimian (despite the somewhat immersion breaking parts of the story strongly suggesting he isn't), just saying "better the devil you know", partly influenced by his rough and tumble bossy wife, and going with the stormcloaks to preserve skyrim as "the nord homeland" for the sake of his family.

So yeah, my point is (I guess, if I reach for one) that characters can sometimes take on a life of their own and go against your own ideals and opinions, preferences and tastes, or whatever.

Any similar examples you have experienced? Ever made a character that did things or made decisions you're usually opposed to or usually wouldn't?

Welcome to roleplay!
That's what I love about Skyrim. I can play the same thing over and over, and nothing will turn out the same. I'm playing an Imperial at the moment, who's madly in love with Ralof and thinking of joining the Stormcloaks. I'd planned for her to join the Legion, but she chose her own path.

It's really strange, but it's your characters story. Good luck.

Good on you, I can see how an Orc could think that by joining the stormcloaks would make the orsimer more accepted in skyrim, of course I doubt that Orc's idea would happen.

Why?

They are called the Pariah folk for a reason.

Eh, the gro-Bagol siblings are among the most prominent citizens of Markarth.

Anyway, I made an assassin that was going to join the Dark Brotherhood. However, he later ended up destroying it. Free-lance work is where it's at.

Trying different things is inevitable. My current Imperial bowman character was going to be another neutral soul, but took great enjoyment murdering the nobles along the roads of Skyrim

That could still be seen a neutral, just your character enjoys banditry

He enjoys it far too much i think, and can't wait for the next poor soul's to appear, ripe for the plucking. I can envision it getting worse

There is the rumor in Oblivion about Nords of Skyrim working with Orc mercenaries against House Redoran, so there is that. I don't think the Nords have much against the Orcs, at least not these days, but I don't think anyone will ever accept the Orcs fully. Even now they are mostly outsiders, after 240-ish years of being recognized as citizen of the Empire.

Every now and then an SC guard will say the orc presence (the strongholds) is an affront to his people. Take that for what you will.

in the same comment they mention they have nothing against Orcs. Good thing to keep in context, given how this board and racism goes together.

Edit: And it is Windhelm guards, not Stormcloak guards, specifically talking about the stronghold set up around the ebony mine to the southeast of Windhelm, Nazulbur.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Guard_Dialogue#Town-Specific

I like the Stormcloaks (especially because of the ties to the Companions and Dark Brotherhood) yet dislike them because of Battle for Whiterun and Heimskr.

Uflric does sound pretty epic, even though I consider him a [censored] because of that.

*completely leaving out lore and dialogue based reasons*

There is a reason i hate both sides, I just cannot come up with it.

For the most part, the Stormcloaks are nothing special except that They are under a man who killed the previous High King.

I wasn't saying they were, which is why I pointed out the strongholds. To the rest, the Windhelm guards are basically the Stormcloak guards. The riften ones for instance while Stormcloak aligned are just riften guards. Windhelm guards are trademark Stormcloak. I figured it went without saying.

edit: At the racism part, nevermind. You were just clarifying to those who may draw that conclusion, not saying so to me.

You weren't, but it could easily be taken as "Nords hate Orcs", instead of "Nords in Windhelm doesn't like Nazulbur" the way you presented it.

Indeed--welcome to roleplay

I've not had quite so drastic a turn with a character, as they all pretty much go as I plan them to, but my current Altmer build whom I'm RP'ing as a Thalmor deserter was going to be fully kitted out in Elven armor, but as she evolved, she refuses to wear Elven armor, due to the Thalmor connections she cannot help but see in it.

No objection to Elven swords, bows, arrows, or shields, though. Just body armor; she refuses Thalmor robes for all the obvious reasons, but will force herself to wear them during the MQ.

@Lycorth

A little off-topic. But the Altmer, in your signature? She looks cute in that stormcloak armor.

My only problem with the Stormcloak campaign was having to constantly take orders and listen to Galmar Stone-Lungs. Suprised there weren't any missions to retrieve tobacco for him, after the campaign I grew so tired of listening to him I console commanded him and decapitated his head with his Motel 6 Bear Rug hat right in front of Ulfric.

Generally the Battle of Whiterun on the Stormcloak side is better simply because it is harder, especially with the first wave of Imperial archers by the gate, after that its a bit of a breeze.

Yip, see my edit.

you have to admit though, both sides of the Civil War are simply the same thing, minus a few unique moments here or there.

Keep in mind my orc could be making the wrong decision, and could later come to realise that. At the moment he just has his reasons, the stormcloaks haven't treated him well but they still feel somewhat like family, they're what he knows. I think once the empire is defeated he'll regain the perspective to hate on stormcloaks, especially after he's the hero that saves them, the windhelm guards saying "stay out of trouble, orc" will likely rub him the wrong way.

Yep, but dont get me started on the civil war questline... ...I've already done enough [censored] today.

agreed, just pointing out one of the reasons I would rather have the CW not be playable.