JRPGS: Why do so many in this forum dislike them? : Othor Games

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:07 am

So, I've noticed in more then a few threads over the last month or so that I've been coming here(wish I had discovered this place sooner, I used to just hang around the Morrowind Forums, and it got really boring after a while), that a lot of people here truly dislike JRPGS. Honestly, I had never even really heard the term before here, but I've thus far been able to deduce it stands for Japanese Role Playing games. I've also deduced it is mostly games that originated in japan(yep, I'm smart, right? right? Please? lol), and have been brought to the U.S.

So my question is, is why do you all dislike them so much. What is it about them that you don't like? Also, what games ARE JRPGS, lol, as I have rarely payed attention to where a game came from. If it was good, I played it, if it svcked, I ignored it. So far, one of the main complaints I've seen, is the ridiculous looks of the characters. Can't say I really understand that much. Not every character in a game can look the same as every character in other games, or things would start to decline/stagnate rather fast.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:26 am

JRPGs are games like Final Fantasy. Many here dislike them simply because Bethesda RPGs are worlds apart from JRPGs, therefore the denizens of this forum typically have drastically different tastes.

» Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:34 pm

JRPGs are games like Final Fantasy. Many here dislike them simply because Bethesda RPGs are worlds apart from JRPGs, therefore the denizens of this forum typically have drastically different tastes.

Pretty much.

Plus, for myself, they creep the [censored] out of me. So sugary and colorful and everybody has HUGE eyes. :cold:

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:18 am

I like pretty much any RPG game. In fact, I like any type of game that has a good character generation system.

Plus, for myself, they creep the [censored] out of me. So sugary and colorful and everybody has HUGE eyes. :cold:

You say that like its a BAD thing!

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:08 am

So, I've noticed in more then a few threads over the last month or so that I've been coming here(wish I had discovered this place sooner, I used to just hang around the Morrowind Forums, and it got really boring after a while), that a lot of people here truly dislike JRPGS. Honestly, I had never even really heard the term before here, but I've thus far been able to deduce it stands for Japanese Role Playing games. I've also deduced it is mostly games that originated in japan(yep, I'm smart, right? right? Please? lol), and have been brought to the U.S.

So my question is, is why do you all dislike them so much. What is it about them that you don't like? Also, what games ARE JRPGS, lol, as I have rarely payed attention to where a game came from. If it was good, I played it, if it svcked, I ignored it. So far, one of the main complaints I've seen, is the ridiculous looks of the characters. Can't say I really understand that much. Not every character in a game can look the same as every character in other games, or things would start to decline/stagnate rather fast.

I like them. I've been playing Star Ocean: The Last Hope for a while and I enjoy it quite a bit. As for the characters... umm.. Lyme was cool, 'kay, at first. She gets annoying after a while. Meracle is also interesting and so is Sarah... it seems more like the girls are more... out there personality wise, except Reimei who is just awesome. The game rocks for the most part though imo.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:12 am

Way too linear for me, I want to play my own character, not some spiky haired git with a sword that rivals only his own hair in size.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:41 am

Western video game company that produces a popular western RPG series has many fans of the western RPG-type gameplay and don't like JRPGs, what a surprise.

Basically the two types of gameplay are quite different and many fans of one don't really care for the gameplay of the other.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:04 am

I like jrpg's actually. Chrono Trigger, Tales of Symphonia, Final Fantasy 12, Legend of the Dragoon. There's others I just can't think of em. There's always at least one character who I like in every jrpg I play. Don't mind the spiky hair, personalities, or the outlandish things in em at all.

» Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:28 pm

Small list of games that are jrpg

Spoiler

psx Azure Dreams Brave Fencer Musashi Breath of Fire III Breath of Fire IV Brigandine: The Legend of Forsena Chrono Cross Dragon Warrior VII Final Fantasy Chronicles Final Fantasy Anthology Final Fantasy VII Final Fantasy VIII Final Fantasy IX Final Fantasy Tactics Front Mission 3 Grandia Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth Legend of Mana Lunar Silver Star Story Complete Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Kartia: The Word of Fate Persona Persona 2 Eternal Punishment Rhapsody Musical Adventure Suikoden Suikoden II Star Ocean: The Second Story Tales of Destiny Tales of Destiny II Thousand Arms Threads of Fate Vagrant Story Valkyrie Profile Vanguard Bandits Wild Arms Wild Arms 2 Xenogears PS2: Ar Tonelico I Ar Tonelico II Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana Dark Cloud Dark Cloud 2 Disgaea Hour of Darkness Disgaea Cursed Memories Dragon Quest VIII Eternal Poison Final Fantasy XII Front Mission 4 Grandia II Grandia III Mana Khemia Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy Metal Saga MS Saga New Dawn Rogue Galaxy Sakura Wars Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner - Raidou Kuzunoha vs. the Soulless Army Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga 2 Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Fes Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 Suikoden III Suikoden V Star Ocean Till the End of Time Steambot Chronicles Tales of the Abyss Tales of Legendia Wild Arms 5 Wild Arms: Alter Code F Xenosaga I Xenosaga II Xenosaga III PS3: Agarest Generations of War Cross Edge Disgaea 3 Resonance of Fate Star Ocean Last Hope International PSP: Breathe of Fire III Crimson Gem Saga Final Fantasy Final Fantasy Tactics War of the Lion Lunar Silver Star Harmony Jeanne D'Arc Shin Megami Tensei: Persona Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Portable Star Ocean First Departure Star Ocean Second Evolution Tales of Eternia Tales of the World Nintendo DS: Chrono Trigger Final Fantasy III Front Mission Legacy of Ys: Books I & II Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Suikoden Tierkreis Wii: ales of Symphonia II SNES: 7th Saga Breath of Fire Breath of Fire II Earthbound Final Fantasy II Final Fantasy III Illusion of Gaia Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals Secret of Evermore Secret of Mana Wanderers from Ys III GBA: Summon Night Swordcraft Story Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:42 am

I like jrpg's actually. Chrono Trigger, Tales of Symphonia, Final Fantasy 12, Legend of the Dragoon. There's others I just can't think of em. There's always at least one character who I like in every jrpg I play. Don't mind the spiky hair, personalities, or the outlandish things in em at all.

Oh man, I love the "Tales of" games! Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Vesperia are the best ones in my opinion.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:40 am

The only JRPG that I've played was Lost Odyssey and that one was decent but personally I'm just not a fan of them :shrug: for the fellowing reasons.

-Many use turn based combat that I dislike but not necessary despise; just not a fan.
-To many uses random encounters which I find annoying.
-Many find myself including the plots preditable (Though this can apply to any genre).
-Characters that are cookie cutter cliches or lack luster (Once again may be appied to WRPG's or any other works of fiction).
-Linear gameplay and no choices that is expected out of "RPG's" which is a term in its self being debated on what it means to be a roleplaying game and popular games like ME can be considered linear depending on standards or perspective.
-Art/clothing styles but this is a case of http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YourMileageMayVary.

Overall it depends on ones taste.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:07 am

Small list of games that are jrpg

I recommend trying out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RdbZeOxL2o

PSXxxxxxxxx
Azure Dreams
Brave Fencer Musashi
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Brigandine: The Legend of Forsena
Chrono Cross
Deception III
Dragon Warrior VII
Final Fantasy Chronicles
Final Fantasy Anthology
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Front Mission 3
Grandia
Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Mana
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar 2 Eternal Blue
Kagero's Deception II
Kartia: The Word of Fate
Ogre Battle
Parasite Eve
Parasite Eve II
Persona
Persona 2 Eternal Punishment
Rhapsody Musical Adventure
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Syndicate Wars
Tactics Ogre
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Destiny II
Thousand Arms
Threads of Fate
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Vanguard Bandits
Wild Arms
Wild Arms 2
Xenogears

PS2:
Ar Tonelico I
Ar Tonelico II
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Baroque
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Disgaea Hour of Darkness
Disgaea Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest VIII
Eternal Poison
Final Fantasy XII
Front Mission 4
Grandia II
Grandia III
La Pucelle Tactics
Makai Kingdom
Mana Khemia
Mana Khemia Premium
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
Metal Saga
MS Saga New Dawn
Odin Sphere
Rogue Galaxy
Sakura Wars
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner - Raidou Kuzunoha vs. the Soulless Army
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon
Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga 2
Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Fes
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Shining Force Exa
Soul Nomad
Suikoden III
Suikoden V
Star Ocean Till the End of Time
Steambot Chronicles
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Legendia
Wild Arms 5
Wild Arms: Alter Code F
Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land
Xenosaga I
Xenosaga II
Xenosaga III

PS3:
Agarest Generations of War
Cross Edge
Disgaea 3
GTAIV
Resonance of Fate
Star Ocean Last Hope International
Valkaria Chronicles

PSP:
Breathe of Fire III
Crimson Gem Saga
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy Tactics War of the Lion
Lunar Silver Star Harmony
Jeanne D'Arc
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Portable
Star Ocean First Departure
Star Ocean Second Evolution
Tales of Eternia
Tales of the World

Nintendo DS:
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy III
Front Mission
Infinite Space
Legacy of Ys: Books I & II
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
Suikoden Tierkreis

Wii:

Tales of Symphonia II

SNES:
7th Saga
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Earthbound
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy III
Illusion of Gaia
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Secret of Evermore
Secret of Mana
Shawdowrun
Wanderers from Ys III

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:10 am

Oh man, I love the "Tales of" games! Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Vesperia are the best ones in my opinion.

I still need to buy dawn of the new world. I will miss regal though. I want my curry to fully heal my party and be cooked with feet.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:39 am

As I've said many times before, I love Pokemon, which is mainly a JRPG series.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:03 am

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um... You forgot Tales of Vesperia and Knights in the Nightmare....

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:09 am

Different style conflict different taste. It is not surprising that this being a WRPG forum, such status on JRPG exist.

Pretty much.

Plus, for myself, they creep the [censored] out of me. So sugary and colorful and everybody has HUGE eyes. :cold:

Way too linear for me, I want to play my own character, not some spiky haired git with a sword that rivals only his own hair in size.

Meh, better than a bunch of underclothes Elves, gritty faces, and Lion-cloth Barbarians. : P

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:46 am

um... You forgot Tales of Vesperia and Knights in the Nightmare....

SPsssgggspppgpsgfps Thats just what I have in my library... Don't have an Xbobbxxxxx

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:26 am

They honestly scare the [censored] out of me. It my be the questionably feminine male characters, the ~~awesomez~~ crazy hair, or the oddly upbeat attitudes.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:14 am

It's pretty obvious really. As others have pointed out, these are the forums of a developer that creates a vastly different style of RPG from JRPGs, and so many people who are members here are going to have tastes more suited for the former.

Personally, I like both, but I absolutely love a good JRPG. No other type of game can draw me in as much.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:20 am

Different style conflict different taste. It is not surprising that this being a WRPG forum, such status on JRPG exist.

Meh, better than a bunch of underclothes Elves, gritty faces, and Lion-cloth Barbarians. : P

Sounds like one bad ass "cloth" piece.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:53 am

SPsssgggspppgpsgfps Thats just what I have in my library... Don't have an Xbobbxxxxx

Vesperia is for PS3 and Knights in the Nightmare is for DS.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:17 am

Vesperia is for PS3 and Knights in the Nightmare is for DS.

I know you are trolling now....
PlayStation 3

* JP September 17, 2009
* NA TBA
* EU TBA
Knights is more of a SRPG and I don't like the look of the gameplay

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:25 am

Sounds like one bad ass "cloth" piece.

I am referring to these http://plyczkowski.autokoncept.pl/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/loincloth1.jpg.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:05 am

I like both kinds of RPG. I am most nostalgic about early (Sega Genesis and PSX) JRPGs because that's what I grew up with.

» Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:48 pm

JRPGs are games like Final Fantasy. Many here dislike them simply because Bethesda RPGs are worlds apart from JRPGs, therefore the denizens of this forum typically have drastically different tastes.

Bethesda's RPG's aren't my favourites actually, I much prefer BioWare's stuff personally. But I just don't like JRPG's. It's for varying reasons, mostly the gameplay just doesn't appeal to me, though the truly god awful acting and completely ridiculous plots in many FF games also puts me off. From what I've seen of FF8 and 10, I can't fathom why anyone actually likes those games.