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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:53 am

im new to fallout and dont know much bout it. but did all the rest of the world end up as wasteland. like france germany england ect....
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:24 pm

im new to fallout and dont know much bout it. but did all the rest of the world end up as wasteland. like france germany england ect....

200 years after the bombs fell

if the rest of the world wasn't devistated

they would have conquered the combatants by now.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:32 pm

im new to fallout and dont know much bout it. but did all the rest of the world end up as wasteland. like france germany england ect....


The entire world was wiped out. China and the US launched nukes at eachother. A lot of nukes. Both sides of the world. Everybody got hit.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:27 am

http://www.fallout.wikia.com front page
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:34 am

Fallout intro:

In 2077, the storm of world war had come again. In two brief hours, most of the planet was reduced to cinders. And from the ashes of nuclear devastation, a new civilization would struggle to arise.


Fallout 2 intro:

The earth was nearly wiped clean of life. A great cleansing, an atomic spark struck by human hands, quickly raged out of control. Spears of nuclear fire rained from the skies. Continents were swallowed in flames and fell beneath the boiling oceans. Humanity was almost extinguished, their spirits becoming part of the background radiation that blanketed the earth.


Jesse Heinig, one of the FO1 designers:

One of the recurring themes of Fallout is that life will find a way to continue, albeit often under great struggles and with violence and suffering. It's not unreasonable, given this notion, to presume that U.S. remnant forces remain in parts of China, just as remnant Chinese elements are in the U.S.; and that other countries are similarly ravaged and war-torn, with survivors crawling out of the rubble. If Australia was untouched by the war, for instance, then presumably after 200 years they would have projected their powerful industrial presence and comparatively high population all around the globe to take control of any remaining resources, and the Enclave would find itself locked in a war with the Aussies. It's likely that some underpopulated parts of the third world escaped the full brunt of nuclear devastation, but since these would have been low-population unindustrialized areas anyway, they are not exactly in a position to take advantage of their "good fortune," such as it is. (I don't imagine that many nukes were wasted on the Sahara.)


The very first Fallout 1 timeline by Scott Campbell and Brian Freyermuth (from which all other Fallout timelines in existence are derived):

Other countries, seeing the US's missiles on their way, fire their warheads as well. What ensues is two hours of nuclear bombardment upon the earth's surface.


Emil Pagliarulo, FO3 lead designer:

Tenpenny Tower was slightly inspired by Fiddler's Green, the skyscraqer in George Romero's Land of the Dead. But it was also an opportunity to introduce another character from outside the U.S. Allistair Tenpenny came to the Capital Wasteland from Great Britain to seek his fortune, so that alone tells you that the U.K. was also hit in the war. And if he came to U.S. to succeed, that says a lot about how screwed up Europe must be. So we just allude, a little bit, to the state of the rest of the world.


Tim Cain, one of the main creators of Fallout:

Q: What ever happened to the catholic church in the FO universe?

Tim Cain: I think it was nuked - the vatican that is.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:05 am

It's more than likely all gone. That's how mutually assured destruction works. It doesn't matter who wins or who loses, only who is left.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:34 am

Lots of interesting topics on this in the FO Universe section. And you get to read my rants!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:50 pm

basically, everyone was fubar, as would happen in real life if several hundred nukes were detonated
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:10 pm

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:51 am

A good point is that Finland, a neutral country of 4 million people during Cold War, was to be hit 22 times by USA in case of Nuclear War.
5 of them to the Capital, Helsinki (~500,000 people).

I think USA had pretty much hundreds of nukes for nuking DDR, Russia and others.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:54 am

I didn't realize it was that level of devastation. This makes the 200 year mark slightly more reasonable, as before I just assumed that the world was only half blown away, highly irradiated for a few years, and simply left to rebuild. I guess I can swallow 200 years after apocalyptia a little bit easier, though I still don't think I'd eat Blanco Mac-N-Cheese.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:44 pm

I didn't realize it was that level of devastation. This makes the 200 year mark slightly more reasonable, as before I just assumed that the world was only half blown away, highly irradiated for a few years, and simply left to rebuild. I guess I can swallow 200 years after apocalyptia a little bit easier, though I still don't think I'd eat Blanco Mac-N-Cheese.


Fallout 2, taking place in 2241, features a nearly fully rebuilt California. San Fran is a flourishing city, NCR (New California Republic) is a quite large nation consisting of hundreds of thousands of people and they were even about to build railroads but was abandoned due to several problems.
If FO3 was a direct successor of FO2, the D.C. would be in pretty much pre-war condition. But then the game would be just anothing futuristic shooter.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:22 pm

A good watch if you really are interested in the subject of nuclear apocalypse (almost seems like the basis for Fallout is mentioned in it) is the movie Dr. Strangelove: Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, in which Russia controls a "Doomsday Device" which would be set off in the event of nuclear war. Dr. Strangelove (played impeccably by Peter Sellers) mentions that before this device is activated, we should build a large underground facility, stock it with food and water, and bring the world's best and brightest in for reestablishing humanity. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:46 pm

If FO3 was a direct successor of FO2, the D.C. would be in pretty much pre-war condition. But then the game would be just anothing futuristic shooter.


Well, the makers of Van Buren averted this by introducing the BOS-NCR war, which destroyed some of that rebuilt civilization.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:43 pm

Well, the makers of Van Buren averted this by introducing the BOS-NCR war, which destroyed some of that rebuilt civilization.


True. And Capital Wasteland has pretty much enough nasties to prevent any progress. Mutants are not that happy with letting people to rebuild with their homes, Raiders are happy with mere shacks and sticks, Enclave harrasses any form of advanced civilization and the low population in the area due to these things prevents rebuilding the D.C. downtown.

I see the years 2077-2277 as something comparable to years 800-1000 in Europe. No progress. Absolutely nothing. Maybe a few good moments, but in the end the humankind was frozen during that period due to diseases and high child mortality.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:43 pm

There seems to be pretty limited exchange from the Brittish Islands to America, atleast two character did came from that place, the father of Moriarity did setted up as Saloon's owner, and Moriarity has been born in Ireland while Tenpenny is from Great Brittain, is Europe in a more horrible state than America, well I guess so they have been in a war for much longer than America, but there hasn't been any information revailed I'f Europe did have some sort of Vault Technology ... Or maybe the last remains of the Soviet Union invaded Europe.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:31 pm

I see the years 2077-2277 as something comparable to years 800-1000 in Europe. No progress. Absolutely nothing. Maybe a few good moments, but in the end the humankind was frozen during that period due to diseases and high child mortality.


I think this is exactly correct, as we have gone through periods like the one above many times in history. Indeed it seems the entire worlds goes through huge "eras" like that when any world-wide catastrohpe strikes.

Many of the same effects would occur post-massive-nuclear war that would occur in a 10-15 kilometer astroid or comet strikes the earth - a brief period of world-wide fire storms brought on by global fires just about everywhere, followed by a longer-term period of global cooling that would kill almost everything. In really big strikes this is followed by a really long hot-spell like what happened in at the Cretaceous mass extinction or the Chicxulub impact that ended the reign of the dinosaurs.

I think the global impacts are what no living thing could walk through un-scathed from such a release of nuclear weapons around the globe. Food production would virtually stop everywhere, and that would be the ultimate killer of Most things that survived the initial war.

Thats why IF Europe was spared getting hit with a single bomb, they would suffer the worst fate of all countries - they would starve to death in Mass numbers. Frankly, I would rather burn to death, but that and rampant disease would be the killers of the "Lucky" nations following such a war. Its the greatly reduced population size of nations struk by the bombs that would actually extend the lives of those who survived - because foods like Cram would be in sufficient quantities to feed the survivors for (perhaps?) hundreds of years depending on how many people survived, and fewer people = reduced risk of rampant disease.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:39 pm

The rest of the world, would be in the same condition as the US, though there has been some speculation of a 2nd British Empire....though that is more of "Fan Fallout", then true Fallout.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:52 am

Well, atleast some islands should survived?
I mean Islands like Hawaii, Kreta, Finland, Sweden, and some Arabic countries?
I mean the radiation definitely reached Cuba, we could use some more "history"info about the remaining world.
Like everything starts over again, other countries send expeditions to explore "unknown land" As Europe once didt.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:05 am

Well, atleast some islands should survived?
I mean Islands like Hawaii, Kreta, Finland, Sweden, and some Arabic countries?
I mean the radiation definitely reached Cuba, we could use some more "history"info about the remaining world.
Like everything starts over again, other countries send expeditions to explore "unknown land" As Europe once didt.

Hawaii - Pearl Harbor naval base
Kreta - It wouldn't survive alone if not nuked.
Finland - US plan included nuking Finland 22 times (see my above post)
Sweden - Neutral. I wouldn't be surprised to see it survive but possibly killed by radiation
Arabic countries - War with EU for decades before the War, middle east was probably destroyed in the EU-Arab war.
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