This is my opinion, but I believe the best race is unquestionably either the High elf, or the Breton. The reason for this is that fortified magicka can't be learned. In Oblivion, I can start a Breton, and just make sure to sneak in a populated room before leveling up. That would give me the +10 agility a wood elf started with in no time. However, If I were to start a wood elf, I would never have access to the increased magicka beyond raising my intelligence, a birthsign, or magical items. You have to look ahead. Once all your skills are at 100, having that increased agility in the beginning of the game is irrelevant; whereas the additional magicka will always be invaluable.

Sure, you can make the point that Argonians can breathe underwater, or Nords slightly resist frost! But those things simply do not matter as much. In the end, increased magicka is the way to go.

Those are my thoughts: What do you guys think? Am I missing something?

Uhh, their the best races in skyrim, so, umm, skyrim related, sort of.......

This isn't Skyrim related. -_-

They are Mer.... :spotted owl:

And this has nothing to do with Skyrim, sounds more for the general section

This.

BEEP BEEP DA BEEPBEEPBEEP THIS JUST IN FROM THE NEWSDESK! High Elves are self centered brown nosing!

News from the front!
Op is flamebaiting!

You can... brown nose yourself?

Yes.

Increased magicka doesn't help me swing my axe harder.

this is probably better suited on the general TES topics not Skyrim.. sorry for all the rude people above a lot of people on here have nothing better to do but be rude. don't let it bother you

just in they are the best race FOR MAGES!

Bretons were the strongest race (game play wise) in oblivion due to 50% magic resist. Since they scale it down to shock resist, it remains to see if they are still super powered.

Altmer were quite weak with their disadvantage of weakness to multiple elements.

All races start with equal Hp, magicka and stamina in skyrim.

Who needs magic when you can weild a shield and a sword/axe/mace like a man? :flamethrower:

The +50 magicka resistance bretons have can't be overlooked also


High elfs are the best races in Daggerfall, because you can use the disadvantage critical weakness to disease or paralysis or whatever they are immune to. Every other race has stat adjustments that are lost in character creation.

Who knows who will be best in Skyrim. Bretons look pretty weak thus far, I think High Elfs will be the best mages and redguard/nord/orc will be the best depending on if their racial ability is worth a damn.

No need to apologize for people giving their honest opinions. You are being rude by saying we are being rude. I was just voicing an opinion very kindly so :meh:

If I were to start a Nord warrior, I would only be stronger at first. He wouldn't be able heal himself efficiently, or use destruction magic. My warrior simply wouldn't have the deep mana pools required. But if I were to start a High elf, and then level up my blade and light armor skills, I would be in the same situation as the nord, but with the mana.

Also, can I easily switch the topic, or must this thread be deleted?

A lot of wannabe mods in here...

I could just put my Orc on The Mage birth sign. It really doesn't make that much of a difference. Especially in Skyrim where being a high level means something.

A female orc does make more sense than most races. I made one once, but couldn't stand how ugly she was.

Although a Breton or High Elf is still the better option. You would have much more magicka.

The orc would have much more health.

Only at first. It would even out.

So would the magicka bonus. They're handled the same way.

Actually, they aren't. Bretons and High elves have increase magicka, not increase intelligence. (Hard to explain.. they start with higher intelligence, 50, but alongside that they have a magicka bonus. For example high elves have +100 magicka.)

Can't the nord just learn restoration and fortify everything +100 by that reasoning?

If I make any (insert race) a "warrior" then when I'm playing as that character I don't give two [censored] about how much mana he has. Sword/axe, shield, armor and potions are all I need to be more than successful, and take out any puny mages in my way.

that's fine.. I'm not arguing how you want to play, only explaining my viewpoint. if you could have the extra magic ability, along with everything else, why not? why not be the stronger character?