It's not *my* theory, it's the FACT agreed upon by scientists worldwide.

They don't share the same blood as other human races but they are still human. There are probably different types. I mean well THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES.

YES
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The Argonians are a part of the Hist I though? There's accounts of Argonains resembling trees more then reptiles.

DunMER, AltMER, BosMER, DweMER, FalMER, OrisMER.

I thought Bretons were human with just a touch of elf (not a 50/50 split)...

A book in Skyrim states Argonians evolved form some "tree-dwelling lizard in the Black Marsh". As a friend of science, I find this theory believable.

Soooo... My Argonian by default is plant-o-sixual? Awesome. I'm going to teabag the next bush I come across in game.

Oh, come on TC, what makes you think they wouldn't be humans, the color of their skin maybe? ffs...

Uh... Mer is just a term to classify the 'Elven' races. Khajiit were once mer, but then they became more catlike. There are many types of Khajiit, ranging from basically bosmer with facepaint to giant tigers. Bretons started out being 50% man 50% mer. But over time, the mer has been bred out and they are more like men now. Redguards, Imperials, and Nords are all human races, but they are called different things based on where they're from. Think of the different races of human we have today: Caucasian, Asian, Hispanic, African etc. They're all human, but they have different traits that separate them. Same thing with the mer, they're all somewhat the same species, just very different variations of that species. Same species, different type. It happens in all of nature.

The term is "dendrophilic"

They are not a beast race, but have a symbiotic relationship with the Argonians. I was lumping them all in the non humanoid category by calling them Beast Races. Less Syllables that way.

Bretons are the product of inter-breeding of the Ancient nedes and they're Aldmer overlords.

Imperials.... I dont know.

Yes, I agree. Not to mention there were many more races of man on tamriel. Strange "man" with metallic skin, and men born without eyes.

I'm not quite sure about that. As much as I trust Nu-Hatta on things like mantling, incarnation, and Towers, there's too much evidence to suggest that Humanity originated in Atmora. If all life originated in Tamriel, it would falsify so much history such as Ysgramor's Return. It would mean that humans would have come into existence in Tamriel, sailed up to Atmora, and then sailed back into Skyrim. It just doesn't seem logical to travel so far when you could just stop and build civilizations at the nearest river or coastline.

But to comment on the OP, while the Redguards have a distinct belief system that isn't quite anologous to those of other races of Man, they are human.

This is exactly what the Anuad tells us though.
They left, and later returned.
But those that left were not men, but Ehlnofey.

"A large fragment of the Ehlnofey world landed on Nirn relatively intact, and the Ehlnofey living there were the ancestors of the Mer. These Ehlnofey fortified their borders from the chaos outside, hid their pocket of calm, and attempted to live on as before. Other Ehlnofey arrived on Nirn scattered amid the confused jumble of the shattered worlds, wandering and finding each other over the years. Eventually, the wandering Ehlnofey found the hidden land of Old Ehlnofey, and were amazed and joyful to find their kin living amid the splendor of ages past."

And the Nu-Mantia Intercept says this:


The sources are in complete contradiction.

Then we have this:

Nowhere does it actually say the Wandering Ehlnofey landed in Tamriel. It's of my opinion that the Nords and Redguard originated in Atmora and Yokuda. That quote from Nu-Hatta goes against everything previously written about the drift of civilizations, and it is the one thing in the Nu-Mantia intercept I refuse to believe.

I think we need to delineate some terms, here.

All ten races are human. In Morrowind, asking a Dunmer about Khajiit or Argonians will net the response "...they're barely human". Ergo, we can infer that in Tamriel, Humanity means 'sentient species deserving basic rights and freedoms'. So in TES, it's really a matter of basal capacities, not necessarily lineage. So yes, Virginia, Redguards are human. But then so are Argonians.

Of course, I'm being extremely pedantic - I know that what OP meant was 'Are Redguards related to the other Mannish races' in which case the answers is still a resounding yes. Atmorans, Nedes, and Yokudans still ultimately share common ancestry in the Wandering Ehlnofey

Im sorry, but I dont see the contradiction.
The Anuad tells us that the Ehlnofey that stayed in Tamriel became the Mer and Nu-Hatta tells us that Aldmeris is Tamriel.
Seems complementary to me.

Many sources say that Tamriel is the centre of the universe, the most important place there is.

It is logical to assume that they started with a single population, and some spread from there.
I think it is less logical to have Ehlnofey on four continents at once just after Creation.

But the Anuad clearly states that some Ehlnofey arrived scattered.

Scattered across Tamriel probably.
The centre of elven civilisation has always been the Summerset area, possibly also counting the Illiac bay because of the Direnni tower.
It is conceivable that those that left for Atmora lived in Skyrim to begin with, far away from the central population.

In the beginning there were the Ehlnofey and the Hist.
The Hist have always been limited to Black Marsh.
If the entire Hist race started off from one point (and never spread much because, well, they dont have feet) then why would the Ehlnofey race start from seperate continents?

Throat of the World

This is the highest mountain in Skyrim, and the highest in Tamriel aside from Vvardenfell in Morrowind. The Nords believe men were formed on this mountain when the sky breathed onto the land. Hence the Song of Return refers not only to Ysgramor's return to Tamriel after the destruction of Saarthal, but to the Nords' return to what they believe was their original homeland. Pilgrims travel from across Skyrim to climb the Seven Thousand Steps to High Hrothgar, where the most ancient and honored Greybeards dwell in absolute silence in their quest to become ever more attuned to the voice of the sky.

From the First Pocket Guide.

You see one every time you talk to a breton.

In Skyrim doesn't it say snow-throat IS the tallest.

Maybe Vvardefell's eruption blew part of itself off.

shoot, if I'd known this would end up in the Lore Forum I would've been more careful in constructing my post.

Anyways, in addition to that bit about Nords believing they were born on the slopes of The Throat of the World, I'm pretty sure there's information about the pre-Alessian Cyrodiilic men that states they had always been on Tamriel ever since descending from the Ehlnofey, which would also contradict what Children's Anuad says about all men forming from wandering ehlnofey on other continents and only afterwards returning to Tamriel.