Just got FO3 : Fallout 3

» Thu May 03, 2012 1:10 pm

Exploration isn't a part of fallout 1 and 2 you mean theres a new developer in town hadn't you noticed with a big ethos on exploration wich is going to be implemented to fallout so your statement is bull.And you played the game lots says you I would thin you woud have something positive to share to.counterbalance the neagative so he can make up.his own mind and not have your opinion forced on him .

I feel there is alot to explore in all Fallout games. I don't see it as a positive or a negative. I also didn't say "This all that is negative about Fallout 3" I simply said this is what Fallout 3 doesn't have. Which is pretty much what he asked. You just assumed that I was bashing Fallout 3. He could have seen everything I listed as positives for all we know.

» Thu May 03, 2012 3:47 pm

I feel there is alot to explore in all Fallout games. I don't see it as a positive or a negative. I also didn't say "This all that is negative about Fallout 3" I simply said this is what Fallout 3 doesn't have. Which is pretty much what he asked. You just assumed that I was bashing Fallout 3. He could have seen everything I listed as positives for all we know.

I got my money on you Styles, make me proud!

» Thu May 03, 2012 2:41 pm

They want to kill anyone who is not "pure" in their eyes, since when is Genocide not evil?

Enclave = Nazi's in power armor

Highly debatable topic , I personally believe the enclaves actions are the only thing that can get humanity as a whole out of the post apocalypse into a brighter future .And that begins with creating a new foundation on wich to build.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:55 pm

Even if FO3 isn't like the other Fallouts in the series, theres still a ridiculous amount of more things to do and explore. Plus theres more enemies and bodies in the wasteland. I know that exploration isn't part of the fallout series as it was mentioned above, but New Vegas feels empty in a lot of spots on the map. Now i'm not exactly saying FO3 or NV is better, as I can't seem to decide this lol I love what both games bring to the table. I enjoy playing both, and thats what its supposed to be about, whether or not if it fits the series of how the game was, or is supposed to be.

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:04 pm

I feel there is alot to explore in all Fallout games. I don't see it as a positive or a negative. I also didn't say "This all that is negative about Fallout 3" I simply said this is what Fallout 3 doesn't have. Which is pretty much what he asked. You just assumed that I was bashing Fallout 3. He could have seen everything I listed as positives for all we know.

" The game is pretty much Good vs Evil and you will be forced to join the BoS and kill the Enclave. The game is based on karma and you will be attacked just for being good or just for being bad. The writing is just bad. It isn't as "mature/advlt" as New Vegas. "
Somehow this can be interpreted as a positive comment yeah whatever.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:45 pm

Somehow this can be interpreted as a positive comment yeah whatever.

But you are acting like everything I said was all negative. All the things I listed. You just assumed that was negative. Also keep in mind he still played the game. Its not like I said "don't play the game."

» Thu May 03, 2012 3:48 pm

Dude your pathetic. Your taking his opinion and classyfying it as an insult to fo3, when it really is te truth.

When are you allowed to join the enclave? Why do talon mercs, or even Jericho, know your a goodie-two shoes right when you step out of the vault? Answer: bad writing.

Now stop being a fart face.

Thats another plus in the direction of New Vegas, the choices you have. FO3 does force you to follow a certain path. Everytime I come up with a point about one game, I find another for the other lol it never ends.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:01 am

But you are acting like everything I said was all negative. All the things I listed. You just assumed that was negative. Also keep in mind he still played the game. I didn't say "don't play the game."

Styles come on the last thing you said on your first comment was very negative and I agree with some of it i'm arguing the fact your just forcing your opinion on him and being overly harsh.

» Thu May 03, 2012 12:43 pm

Styles come on the last thing you said on your first comment was very negative and I agree with some of it i'm arguing the fact your just forcing your opinion on him and being overly harsh.

Fallout 3 doesn't have the following:

Traits
Damage Threshold
Iron Sites
hardcoe Mode
Multiple Endings
Reputation System
Companion Quests
Faction disguises

How is that negative?

The second part is also the truth, I am sorry if the truth hurts. Yeah I could have sugar coated it I guess but still he did ask for the differences. You can't join the Enclave, you can' join Talon Company. The is good vs evil. The writing is bad, but that part I guess can be seen as my opinion.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:45 pm

How is that negative?

The second part is also the truth, I am sorry if the truth hurts. Yeah I could have sugar coated it I guess but still he did ask for the differences. You can't join the Enclave, you can' join Talon Company. The is good vs evil. The writing is bad, but that part I guess can be seen as my opinion.

I agree with the full message mostly just not the way you force it as fact .As it is debatable.
And i.never once mentioned the first part just the harshness of the second.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:42 am

I agree with the full message mostly just not the way you force it as fact .As it is debatable.

The only part that I said that is debatable is "The writing is bad."

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:13 pm

The only part that I said that is debatable is "The writing is bad."

Good v evil I don't see the enclave as evil.

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:13 pm

Oh I'm sorry I'm not whining like a little girl.

EDIT: meh, I don't feel like getting banned.

Had you stayed out of the debate then you wouldn't of had to insult me with your pathetic and this would have been resolved but hey anything to.give that pot a good stir eh?

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:38 pm

Good v evil I don't see the enclave as evil.

Its pretty clear they were intened to be the evil guys. The people that wanted to kill everyone. The people that attack you throughout the game but for the moment where they kidnap you to talk to you.

The people you can't join. The people that even if you agree to help still attack you. The people you are forced to destroy at Project Purity. The people that no matter what in Broken Steel get blown up. Yeah they weren't supposed to the the games bad guys :rolleyes:

» Thu May 03, 2012 7:40 pm

Its pretty clear they were intened to be the evil guys. The people that wanted to kill everyone. The people that attack you throughout the game but for the moment where they kidnap you to talk to you.

The people you can't join. The people that even if you agree to help still attack you. The people you are forced to destroy at Project Purity. The people that no matter what in Broken Steel get blown up. Yeah they weren't supposed to the the games bad guys :rolleyes:

They also attack you before they even talk to your father. So while your down in the pipe line or whatever fixing up the purifier.

So, "hey look a mechanic! Let's kill him for [censored] and giggles."

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:00 am

Had you stayed out of the debate then you wouldn't of had to insult me with your pathetic and this would have been resolved but hey anything to.give that pot a good stir eh?

Ave, true to Caeser.

» Thu May 03, 2012 3:54 pm

Its pretty clear they were intened to be the evil guys. The people that wanted to kill everyone. The people that attack you throughout the game but for the moment where they kidnap you to talk to you.

The people you can't join. The people that even if you agree to help still attack you. The people that no matter what in Broken Steel get blown up. Yeah they weren't supposed to the the games bad guys :rolleyes:

Yes bethesda handled them badly but the enclave as a faction arn't evil and they arn't evil in fallout 3.And if you help them they attack you bit I don't get , at the start of the game they want the purifier so they do whatever it takes at the end augustus autum doesn't want eden to gain control of the purifier so he tries to kill you so fair enough and at the end at aafb you didn't help them the bos story was took as canon (wich I hate ) and even if you blow the citadel up they won't know for months as news travels slowly.

I Agree they where awfully handled but at no.point do they turn on you when you help them technically so they arn't the baddies as I have explained.

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:41 pm

They also attack you before they even talk to your father. So while your down in the pipe line or whatever fixing up the purifier.

So, "hey look a mechanic! Let's kill him for [censored] and giggles."

Or maybe because there trying to takeover what are they gonna do with a guy that has yet to state his allegiance to them when they want full control of jeferson memorial.
It's that or enslave him most factions would pick one of the two in that situation.

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:57 pm

Or maybe because there trying to takeover what are they gonna do with a guy that has yet to state his allegiance to them when they want full control of jeferson memorial.
It's that or enslave him most factions would pick one of the two in that situation.

Ok why did they go guns blazing at you, but spoke to your father and scientist without shooting on sight? Why could they approach you and ask for you to come with them to the Rhotunda?

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:01 am

Ok why did they go guns blazing at you, but spoke to your father and scientist without shooting on sight? Why could they approach you and ask for you to come with them to the Rhotunda?

Excactly your dad and the scientists are scientists weirdly enough so they can offer help as they have put the work in to get it running and need to put a code in I can't remember where as the lw is an errand boy in a pipe with know immediate connection to them it would be bad writing if they somehow knew you were related.
It's 5am here so thatsmy last message.

» Thu May 03, 2012 12:18 pm

Excactly your dad and the scientists are scientists weirdly enough so they can offer help as they have put the work in to get it running and need to put a code in I can't remember where as the lw is an errand boy in a pipe with know immediate connection to them it would be bad writing if they somehow knew you were related.

So some lw, say in a Brahmin skinned shirt or even his vault suit or armored vault suit who is just fixing up some pipes is instantly an enemy in the Enclave's eyes?

Huh. Doesn't sound evil to me :rolleyes:

» Thu May 03, 2012 7:02 pm

So some lw, say in a Brahmin skinned shirt or even his vault suit or armored vault suit who is just fixing up some pipes Ian instantly an enemy in the Enclave's eyes?

Huh. Doesn't sound evil to me :rolleye:

There taking control of the memorial what would they do with him keep him as a pet and release him into.the wild when he gets older.They don't need him but badly need the purifier I don't see that as evil most factions would do that as I said.
And what does his apperal matter I could easily just repace vault suit with bos power armour to suite (no pun intended) my argument.

» Thu May 03, 2012 5:24 pm

There taking control of the memorial what would they do with him keep him as a pet and release him into.the wild when he gets older.They don't need him but badly need the purifier I don't see that as evil most factions would do that as I said.

Ok so what if my player is a scientist and wearing and using scientific equipment? Why can't the enclave soldier easily say "put your hands up and follow me", to which you could reply yes or say no and start a firefight.

Bad writing is why. You can't sugarcoat it man.

Anyways, im out Eden. Going to bed. Peace out.

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» Thu May 03, 2012 12:54 pm

Ok so what if my player is a scientist and wearing and using scientific equipment? Why can't the enclave soldier easily say "put your hands up and follow me", to which you could reply yes or say no and start a firefight.

Bad writing is why. You can't sugarcoat it man.

Anyways, im out Eden. Going to bed. Peace out.

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I agree beth handled the enclave poorly but that doesn't make them evil.
And sorry for bickering and to you styles aswell.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:42 am

sorry but,
is "The Enclave" supposed to be the same as the Brotherhood of Steel douchebags?
If so, I've spent too much time on them and they always seemed to be hard-asses and unfriendly...

hence
my recent acquisition of their guns and armor. I think B.O.Steel totally svcks, but at least I postponed my judgment about them.