...Just Noticed Something About Shivering Isles.

Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:52 am

I just noticed something. Canonically....Your oblivion character went on to become Sheogorath....So he never really died. Your oblivion character is technically immortal because of this. So what will that entail in Skyrim?
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Jason White
 
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:10 pm

SPOILER ALERT

You should probably add that to your post.
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Louise
 
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:03 am

My guess is that it really won't have much impact on Skyrim except that Bethesda already has a convenient way to remove the Champion of Cyrodiil from the picture. Maybe we'll get some hint towards what happened in Shivering Isles, but I doubt there will be a major change in Sheogorath because of this.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:47 pm

I wanna do a quest for him, and actually summon him :) but he looks just like the old Sheogorath due to madass magic and can hardly remember who he was before.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:11 pm

One should walk around the Skyrim board expecting spoilers about previous games in the series. It's been a few years, that's the cut-off point.

That said, the above spoiler shouldn't be stated, because it's a completely unrelated spoiler.

On the original topic, it's speculated that your character is still Sheogorath, they've just become indistinguishable from the previous one. Your old character, at some point, sprouted a beard, started walking with a cane, etc.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:38 am

I think there should be a cut off point for cultural spoilers of this magnitude. If it was five years ago, I think we can move on and say that if anyone hasn't read it by now, it's their own fault.

Yep, that''s how I feel about it. To me if it's been out for a year, it's open game. Seriously, if you wanted to read/see/play it you would have by then.

Anywho, I'll tell you what most think it means. Your character assumes the role of Sheogorath and eventually becomes him.* To the mortals of mundus there is no noticeable difference.

*Considering what Jyggy says to you at the end I'd say it's certain. The Shivering Isles literally belong to you. You rule over a plane of Oblivion. If that wouldn't make you a Daedric Prince eventually I don't know what would. And when you take into account some of the new lore brought it by SI it hints at the possibility that other champions have came and assumed the mantle (Arden Sul in particular) though none have actually broken the cycle until you.
Obviously they couldn't make you a full on prince at the end of SI because you wouldn't have been able to ever re-enter mundus. And people would have complained about that. A lot.

Edit* Plus it's not like a mortal becoming a god isn't unheard of in Elder Scrolls anyway.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:48 pm

One should walk around the Skyrim board expecting spoilers about previous games in the series. It's been a few years, that's the cut-off point.

That said, the above spoiler shouldn't be stated, because it's a completely unrelated spoiler.

On the original topic, it's speculated that your character is still Sheogorath, they've just become indistinguishable from the previous one. Your old character, at some point, sprouted a beard, started walking with a cane, etc.

This :)

But I do like the idea that one day he came back after completely destroying Jyggalag for good, and he wanted his realm back so he fulfilled his desire of ripping his replacements intestines out and strangling him with them :)
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:12 pm

I'm pretty sure that making the CoC Sheogorath was BGS's way of totally removing them as a character. They have lost their sense of identity. They are Sheogorath. Thus, there won't be any ramifications past whatever Daedric shrine quest Sheogorath gets this time around.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:13 am

I think we'll get to see Sheogorath, but we won't see him specifically as our character, since he can take on any form he wants. He could still look like an old man if he wants. The power of Daedric Princes to control their appearance is emphasized by how the old Sheogorath was the only bearded being at that time. :thumbsup:
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:24 pm

I'm pretty sure that making the CoC Sheogorath was BGS's way of totally removing them as a character. They have lost their sense of identity. They are Sheogorath. Thus, there won't be any ramifications past whatever Daedric shrine quest Sheogorath gets this time around.

Yes. And I think that's way cooler than just kicking him/her off to Akavir like they did with the Nerevarine.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:47 pm

The Nerevarine survived the side effects of corpus so he is technically ageless too.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:00 pm

The Nerevarine survived the side effects of corpus so he is technically ageless too.


Yeah but he went to Akavir and "was never heard from again".
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:29 pm

Your character in Oblivion has nothing to do with Skyrim, sorry.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:45 pm

I just noticed something. Canonically....Your oblivion character went on to become Sheogorath....So he never really died. Your oblivion character is technically immortal because of this. So what will that entail in Skyrim?

Well we honestly don't know the extent of that. Sheogorath never really existed as he was just Jygalagg trapped in chaos. We don't know if the Champion of Cyrodiil is now immortal in the Shivering Isles or if it's just his summer home. Either way, I wouldn't even expect to hear anything of Sheogorath in Skyrim.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:28 pm

I'm pretty sure once the title was given to the Champion of Cyrodiil, it was pretty much like Mantling so he became the god. To handle this, I would suppose that over time he would begin to transform to look like Sheo's human avatar presence. You guys think that could happen?
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:06 pm

One should walk around the Skyrim board expecting spoilers about previous games in the series. It's been a few years, that's the cut-off point.

That said, the above spoiler shouldn't be stated, because it's a completely unrelated spoiler.

On the original topic, it's speculated that your character is still Sheogorath, they've just become indistinguishable from the previous one. Your old character, at some point, sprouted a beard, started walking with a cane, etc.


Sure, but how much cooler would it be if Skyrim rooted through your Oblivion files and made Sheogorath look like whoever you took through the Shiver Isles in that game? (Or selected randomly from the list of characters you took through that quest, in the case of multiple playthroughs)

A lower tech option: Sheogorath's appearance is a randomized humanoid each time you see him, so he always looks different. Fitting for a god of madness to turn a multiple personality disorder into actual multiple personhoods.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:58 am

Thankful i played SI, but why would you ruin it for everyone else who hasnt??
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:44 pm

So what will that entail in Skyrim?
Absolutely nothing. It'll be as though Sheogorath never left in the first place.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:38 pm

Well, all that about the Nerevarine was just a rumour. It is possible that Helseth just decided to finish what he started and killed him, spreading out rumours about him "going to Akavir". It is also possible he did the same to Vivec...

Pure conspiracy theories, not a grain of facts in it, except for the fact that this is possible.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:43 am

I just noticed something. Canonically....Your oblivion character went on to become Sheogorath....So he never really died. Your oblivion character is technically immortal because of this. So what will that entail in Skyrim?


wrong forum. This should be in the oblivion forum, not skyrim because it has nothing to do with skyrim
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:24 pm

wrong forum. This should be in the oblivion forum, not skyrim because it has nothing to do with skyrim

His question was what is going to happen to Sheogorath In Skyrim. So, no. He is in the right forum.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:14 pm

wrong forum. This should be in the oblivion forum, not skyrim because it has nothing to do with skyrim

Well he's asking for conjecture on what ramifications the CoC's transformation into Sheogorath will have on Skyrim. He isn't merely pointing it out. So way to be unnecessarily rude, there :thumbsup:

Damn ninjas
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:28 pm

wrong forum. This should be in the oblivion forum, not skyrim because it has nothing to do with skyrim


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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:14 pm

Maybe its been a while, but with the exception of Hircine, I don't really remember any of the daedra princes having the same voice actor from one game to the next. Not only that, but since most of your character's interaction with the daedra princes comes from stone statues of them (most likely created by their followers). So how is this really going to ruin the game for you?
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:00 am

Maybe its been a while, but with the exception of Hircine, I don't really remember any of the daedra princes having the same voice actor from one game to the next. Not only that, but since most of your character's interaction with the daedra princes comes from stone statues of them (most likely created by their followers). So how is this really going to ruin the game for you?

Who said anything about the CoC being Sheogorath "ruining the game"? O.o
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