HAHA!! Those where the day waiting on Oblivion! It was supposed to be a sequal to morrowind. So I decided every day to come on here and give advice to make Morrowind better.

Funny isnt it. (Speaking to all the early fans.) All we wanted was to make a game better. SO we started the
WHAT SCARES YOU threads or the
MakeYOUR OWN QUEST thread. or
:intergalactic: DESIGN YOUR OWN NPC's thread.

We told ourselves that Maybe the developers will look at the best one and put it in the game. LOL LOL LOL LOL.

So after all this time Im Back a lot older and wiser making fun of my old name Username. Looking upon the newcomers and seeing there smiles and fun.

Hell back in the day Our ideas where better than HALF THE Quests in Oblivion. And our NPC's could have rivaled The expansions they made. Hell some of those fan made ideas where so simple that it wouldnt take any time to put them in!
I mean just the words the characters spoke where so amazing that I couldnt honeslty sleep at night if i didnt put it in the game. (If I was them.)

And now a warning. You can right all you want. But there will not be a sequel to morrowind or Oblivion. There will just be a different game completely.
That sequel is never coming. (Morrowind got Oblivion after all.)

YOUR amazing ideas are never going to be in the game. NEVER!

But I want to say That Ive been there before and I wanted to congratulate all of you on every post you guys have ever made. Maybe the developers didnt read it. But I sure as hell do. And Ive ejoyed every Geek Convorsation and depate ive had.

I have nothing against Beth they are busy. They are a company. But Sometimes I too just want my ideas and dreams to come alive through there games. Hell maybe one day we will get lucky. Or maybe that way of thinking is just false hope. Just thought i would express myself HAHA!!

Who cares, this is just to tide us over untill we get an anouncement or game play video we can disect. some of these ideas are realy good, and if Beth doesnt put them in game I'm going to mod some of them. Like my next project is going to be a dinosaur that you can ride in game. but i think some fo these ideas can be easily modded. If they dont put it in TESV, im seriously thinking about making a fishing game, as a way to earn extra money.

Im not attacking or didnt mean to sound that way. I just noticed a lot of people expect thing. Like a little more Beth reaction than is really necessary. I like the dream I come here every so often. To check up on the fans. But realistically A lot of our great ideas are never heard. I think more people should be aware. That the things they are doing has been done before. And that people have come before them with better ideas. And theres didnt get put in either. If it didnt happen on Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout then well. Its safe to list these boards as Fan only boards. And accept the fact that Beth will not include there waisted time on these boards. Just enjoy eachother. Dont work extra hard on an idea that will not even be considered.

Again just having an open convo!

Haha, great points. I used to get on here a lot during the wait for Oblivion but never got around to making an account till recently. I did however read a lot of amazing ideas that I'd always see and be extremely excited about, What if! I mean the prospects were insane. However when the game came out, there was little to be seen on the fans ideas and what not. Not saying Bethesda should be reading every little topic for an idea but some were pretty awesome.

In terms of the idea for a sequel to Oblivion or Morrowind? I would really look towards looking forward to anything like that. The games have and probably always move onto another piece of lore filled land with a new story to live through. I'm not saying that a sequel wouldn't be fun, but it's most likely not going to happen. If people really want one for either game, then theres the huge modding community that could always make a huge mod to continue the story. Ya a huge undertaking but would be worth it for the fans.

It's also always been fun to make up ideas that would be cool to have in the next game, but don't expect much. If you really want to have your ideas heard, maybe learn to mod, or even talk to a local modder and maybe have them get ready to make mods for the up coming game of your ideas. Hope all the modders out there read the suggestions and take notes for future projects. Just have fun with it.

after Oblivion i will expect more [censored] and less bang from Bethesda.

i will not buy their latest game before some weeks have gone by and unbribed reviewers have taken a look at the game, i will not make the same mistake i did with Oblivion and pre-order it.

Doesn't help that what people look for now is less depth and more Pop and Sparkle.

"oooo shiny," is most likely what a lot of people think, and don't actually worry about the nuts and bolts.

Well not to spoil the thread or anything but making the npc's and quests can easily be done with the construction set and a little tutorial

Tell that to the Xbox and PS3 users :sadvaultboy: i was one of the lucky that got their first TES game on PC, but honestly i dont think many people believe that Beth listens to us rambling, they'll come on once a month to make sure we haven't rioted yet, but thats it. Will beth really read through over 100 suggestion threads? Will they really quake and shiver when they realize that the speculation thread is getting closer? Will they even bother to read the random threads like "most dissapointing thing in TES" thread? The answer to all of the above is no, they dont care, they aren't interested, and they sure dont have the time to do it, not even Gstaff, the community manager could do all that, heck i dont do that and i log on practically everyday.

Plus i'm guessing that most people realize this, i only come here to pass the time, i like talking about what i think would make the game better, i rarely set expectations for a game, and i recommend everyone to follow suit.

is this topic supposed to send the message tht beth doesnt listen to feedback, or ideas about quests and tht sort of thing, and being able to govern a town and make guilds and stuff. im pretty sure they listen to feedback.

I remember when I thought I had a great idea for oblivion back in the day. It was familiars, I believe. Little pets that would follow you around (like a summon, but they look like smaller animals and don't fight as well, and also last much longer).

Then there was that thread entitled "Best Idea EVER!" and in it the guy demanded that Bethesda put the ability to make sandwiches into the game.

the huge game worlds and complex item systems are huge feats in themselves. teams of programmers spend months trying to make things work without glitching and crashing.

bethesda understands all the ideas the community has, and that's exactly why we have things like the GECK and the Elder Scrolls editing tools.

if they didn't hear all the great ideas coming from the audience, would they really take the time to provide us with a slightly scaled-back dev kit?

and again, sorry console users...

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I'm definitely waiting 2-3 years before getting TESV so that the modders will have cleaned up whatever bright ideas they have this time

Um I keep hearing put it in yourself with the editor?
THen if that is going to be the answer to everything shouldnt we all be in the MOD section?

No.... why? Becouse we are giving our ideas to the developers. In hopes that the Few great Ideas get put in.

I also stated that beth is if fact a company. So I understand that they have people working hard.
However I also stated that the best of the best Ideas should always be put in.

10 great ideas to much for them to do? I think not. But is it wise? No. Beth needs to keep the cash coming in. I understand this. Im aware of the direction they have been heading in during the Morrowind days. Bringing consolesin and all. And going into the familiar market for gaming. Like fallout being a FPS and all. Putting extra time in just to please the forum fans is a little out there. (I know i disaggree but Its the way things are with any gaming company.)

I was just letting the people slaving ideas away that the top 10 ideas will in fact not be put in.I was also thanking everyone for their input. I have ejoyed a lot of ideas and dreams we have shared on here. Im not secretly attacking Beth I wouldnt be nice about that kind of stuff. So no there is no hidden meaning in the post itself.

I just noticed the days have been repeating themselves and maybe a forum revolution would be nice!

The game design document for TESV would have been made long before they started working on TESV. I doubt that ANY of our ideas will make it into the game.

Put it in the game with the CS?Usually a Great idea untill we become limited by the hardcoding like oblivion.Like Its nearly impossible to bring back the old Beast races,spears,crossbows without having it look like some butcherd attempt that would normally be an awsome idea. Personally I think is that it should be more like Morrowind for TESV and be completely customizable. from the animations and items to the very Racial skeleton. to create something unique. thouigh i doubt this will happen.

I'm sure with advances in Gamebryo, Bethesda could potentially find a way to re-integrate unique racial meshes with their FaceGen technology. Of course, I kind of liked Morrowind's pre-set faces. You had a lot less variety, but ultimately I found each face to be a lot more unique and distinguished than the ones in Oblivion...

Can't go with you there man. Sure maybe the dark elves faces were cool, but other than that I think most of Morrowind's faces kind of :thumbsdown:...

What they need is a combination of Oblivion's and Morrowind's system. Kind of what they did in Fallout 3, with some good presets, but plenty of customization.

Reminds me of how I used to give input and ideas for Fallout 3 after it was announced. I gave an idea for a quest way before the game was released, and then a while after the game was released, they let out a DLC called, "The Pitt" that seemed to be based on my input. That's always given me hope that Bethesda watches over their forums.

Maybe but it wasnt facegen i was refering too more so the body meshes.Oblivion hindered any chance bringing back Morrowinds beastman because of the games hardcoding such examples of what i would like to see possible are unique playable races. like one mod i seen. for Morrowind. a Centaur race. unique things like that which can be completely different from humanoid forms.

I don't find any of them unique at all, because everywhere you turn you see a dozen NPCs with the same face as you. And on top of that, they were absolutely ugly.

There is awesome faces mods for Morrowind though, don't think there's such awesome mods for Oblivion because of how our look is decided. Too bad

Ugly? How so? Sure, in terms of pure poly count and texture quality, they weren't as high as Oblivion, but in terms of actual artistic design, they blow the Oblivion face generator parameters out of the water. I still find my Morrowind Dark Elf characters more defined, their features more pronounced, their overall feel more exotic. The Oblivion face generator is just, "Here's your normal looking guy with grey-blue skin."

Great thread! I feel the same way as Websandroses (and I think I remeber when you posted as Username). It used to be great to put your ideas for display here and defend them against "constructive critisism" :gun: Also the devs used to post more often. Whene there was a direct question to them that was backed by other forum members you could always count on Pete to write something, give us a wink that they do care. Now you're lucky if gstaff writes something. And about the "do it yourself in CS" thing - I used to try a lot, but not every one has the kind of skill and time it takes to create a good mod. Besides, when I play a game I am discovering a world, it is something completely different to CREATE one. I want to know how the world really looks like, 'cause it is there somewhere in the creators' minds, waiting to be told by them. I want to know how they imagined it and than decide if it is something I like. For instance, what's the point of doing a quest when you're the one who created it and know all the turns?

However I would like to congratulate everyone on their great ideas and encourage to keep the forum alive and thriving. If not anything, this is a great way to commemorate TES, it's wonderful past and hopefully bright future. This forum is by fans for fans now and even though we lost our connection with the devs (at least in the form we used to have) it is still a nice place to stop by, since you can always find someone to talk to about your favourite game and share new ideas with. :intergalactic:

Exactly man you get it!

I just wanted the newer guys who have been waiting a year to realise that this will not be oblivion 2. It will be a beast of its own and that the direction it is taking will not be changed. It wouldnt matter how loud we scream or what we do. Beth is good at making $$$$$!

Hell Oblivion might have been dumbed down but hell. It was teh greatest RPG to grace XBOX 360! There where other great titles but TES is the Big Daddy!