Just a whinge

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:21 am

And I managed to find a full set of chitin within my first 20 mins of playing? What do I do now, find glass within another hour? Then what?

My question is: Why has Morrowind made this so easy?

This is what I liked about Oblivion, the wide range of armour types for each weight, and the time it took to aquire them.

I have made a character I really like:

Dunmer
Specialisation: Magic
Major skills: Restoration, Destruction, Light Armour, Short blade, Block
Minor skills: Mercantile, Speechcraft, Alchemy, Alteration, Athletics

I am very pleased with my character since it seems to have a lot of potential, my first character was a pure mage type but the regeneration of magicka issues, really, really put me off.

My problem is after looking at the UESP website it looks like my light armour choices are extremely limited and evidently short lived.

I guess in a way I am trying to express my dissapointment but in an incoherent and whingy way :banghead:

I only have a couple of hours of experience with Morrowind and there are some aspects I absolutely adore such as the thought gone into the design of the world (an area where Oblivion failed miserably with all the towns and wilderness looking identical). But on the other hand the armour choices and the ability to be a pure mage were excellent.

My main question is, i suppose, what alterations to my character would you suggest I make in order for me to take full advantage of this game? I have seen there are a large number of heavy armour options but I know this reduces the magic effectiveness and I really, really like the magic aspects of the game. I dont want to be a pure hack and slash character, I tried that in Oblivion but got bored in about 10 mins.

I have looked through many older posts but it isn't solving my question!

Sorry for the incoherent, negative and whingy post, especially since it is only my 2nd one!
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dean Cutler
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:43 pm

Heh - the mage character re-generation of Magicka is something that needs to be managed, and yet you dropped that character, because that "put you off", but now are saying they made the game too easy. Higher level mages in MW are pretty badass.

Good luck finding full glass armor in the next hour with non-cheat playing. I loved Oblivion, but the quick and predictable drop of higher end armor and weapons was a bit off-putting. MW does make you work for the really good stuff, I think. :)
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Amy Melissa
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:17 pm

if you want more light armor, download a mod or three that has them. problem solved :)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:06 pm

There's a lot of individual pieces of light armor other than those four sets. Such as light armor artifacts, or other misc items. If you get the expansions about 3 or 4 light armor sets are added into the game. Even better if you get some mods.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:01 pm

Heh - the mage character re-generation of Magicka is something that needs to be managed, and yet you dropped that character, because that "put you off", but now are saying they made the game too easy. Higher level mages in MW are pretty badass.

Good luck finding full glass armor in the next hour with non-cheat playing. I loved Oblivion, but the quick and predictable drop of higher end armor and weapons was a bit off-putting. MW does make you work for the really good stuff, I think. :)


Yeah I just found it stupid that a full set of chitin could be found between the Addamasartus cave (nearest cave to Seyda Neen) and Arrille's Tradehouse when it's the second best light armour in the game!

I thought the mage thing was questionable at the start of the game because I had to use a huge number of restore magicka/ health potions just to clear out the first cave you reach. Whereas when I had a short sword I was able to just plough my way through in a couple of minutes! :huh:

And I haven't dropped the mage yet! I'm playing both 'simultaneously' because I really want it to be good!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:15 am

Yeah I just found it stupid that a full set of chitin could be found between the Addamasartus cave (nearest cave to Seyda Neen) and Arrille's Tradehouse when it's the second best light armour in the game!

It's not even that great though. The best light armor is way better.

I thought the mage thing was questionable at the start of the game because I had to use a huge number of restore magicka/ health potions just to clear out the first cave you reach. Whereas when I had a short sword I was able to just plough my way through in a couple of minutes! :huh:

Were you using fire spells? If not, then it should have been faster than the sword.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:02 pm

It's not even that great though. The best light armor is way better.


Were you using fire spells? If not, then it should have been faster than the sword.


Yeah I was mainly using the fire bite spell you get given at the beginning. Is that where I was going wrong? Tbh I really need to mess around with the mage thing a bit more since I am sure I am missing something! :bonk:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:49 am

Yeah I was mainly using the fire bite spell you get given at the beginning. Is that where I was going wrong? Tbh I really need to mess around with the mage thing a bit more since I am sure I am missing something! :bonk:


Dunmers are highly fire resistant, so you need to use other spells against them to be effective. Know your enemy.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:13 pm

Easy? I'm sorry, go hunting for full daedric without killing Divayth.

Not like in Oblivion where your typical bandit will wear armor created from the screaming souls of the banished daedra. Because that's always realistic.

Agreed with Ley as well. Glass isn't easy to find, or get.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:50 pm

If you know where to look glass armor is INCREADIBLY easy to get. I know of one place in particular where there is an almost full set just waiting to be swiped. You only have to get past a couple of locks to get at it none of which are in anyone's line of sight. I'm not telling you where this place is because this isn't the spoilers section. Either way it's a hell of a lot easier to get than medium or heavy armor. I suppose indoril's not all that hard to get if you know what your doing but then again it doesn't even compair to glass. Ebony can be tricky too but there are ways to get a full set of that in one fell swoop as well. Then there's daedric. There are only like 2 full sets in the whole game one of which is scattered all over creation. And Morrowind is a bigass game. But if your willing to be a little murderous you can get virtualy a full set of that at once as well. And I haven't even mentioned artifacts. Of course if you know where to find them many of those are easy enough to come by as well. It mostly come down to whether or not you know where to look. If you don't, then I envy you because knowing all of the secrets kind of breaks the game. I don't even use armor any more because I can usualy get a full set of whatever I want will little effort. Other than daedric that is, I'm not big into heavy armor so I'm not willing to kill what's-his-face for it and I'm not hunting all over Morrowind for every little bit and piece. That does get difficult.

It is true that chitin is the second best (vanilla) armor but thats only because there is nothing between it and glass. Theres a HUGE gap between the two. They tried to fix that with Tribunal and bloodmoon but I don't think it was very effective. your best bet is to use mods to add more "in between" armor.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:29 am

You probably won't be finding glass armor for much longer yet. The thing about light armor is that there really isn't much to fill the gap between chitin and glass, chitin isn't really very good armor, so it's no surprise that you can get a full set so early, but once you have it, aside from artifacts, you probably won't find much else that's better in terms of light armor until you get glass, unless you have the expansions, which do introduce some new armor including a few types of light armor, however, in Tribunal, the new light armor, while better than chitin but not as good as glass, can also be acquired earlier on, so in the end, you're probably still going to find yourself in the same situation.

As has been said, if you want to avoid the issue with getting the second best light armor early on and then having nothing else to get until you start fighting glass or light armor, you're best bet is probably to use mods, if you have the PC version of the game, if not, you're stuck with whatever options are in the unmodded game, and if it still bothers you, you'll just have to go with medium or heavy armor.

And yes, using magic can be a bit more frustrating than Oblivion due to the fact that magicka does not regenerate automatically, also, in general, the only way to get your character to have enough magicka to cast powerful spells enough to rely on magic is to have a decently high fortify maximum magicka effect, like what you get from certain races or birthsigns, the fact that you need to put your weapon away to cast spells doesn't really help either, and in the end, I've always found spells in the game too weak to rely on them fully, especially when you take into account the magicka cost, it doesn't help that it seems that many high level enemies have some degree of spell reflection, so you have to be careful of the possibility of your own spells getting reflected back at you (I suppose one option is to use a kind of magic that your character is resistent to if you have any magic resistences, though tha only works if your enemies don't also have the same resistences.) so I generally just don't bother with pure mages and use a combination between either combat or stealth skills and magic. On the other hand, in Morrowind I find the Atronach birthsign to be a much more viable choice than in Oblivion, in part, I think because magicka doesn't regenerate except when sleeping anyway and therefore the stunted magicka effect is less of an inconvenience, and it's not exactly hard to find enemies with reletively harmless spells to help replenish your magicka.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:36 am

I have seen there are a large number of heavy armour options but I know this reduces the magic effectiveness and I really, really like the magic aspects of the game.

As far as I know, Morrowind doesn't have that magic penalty for armor, only Oblivion does, so you can go all out on heavy plate if you want.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:33 pm

Thanks everyone for the info! I appreciate the help :foodndrink:
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