Just who is the god Agamanus in Elsweyr?

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:24 am

In the Arena game there was a Temple of Agamanus in Elsweyr who had a band of warrior priests. Does anyone know who this Agamanus is? Another name for one of the daedra princes, or of the Nine Divines, or some other obscure god?

Temple of Agamanus in the Colossus quest:--
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:The_Halls_of_Colossus

& where were the Halls of the Colossus to be found in Elsweyr?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:47 am

Obscure god nobody cares anymore. There are a bunch of gods in Arena, but they're just names. TES religion was given more definition in the later gamse.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:04 am

You can just assume that throwaway references from Arena are not important.

But the Halls of Collosus are somewhere near Rimmen, I think? You just need to walk around near the border until your Geiger Counter starts ticking.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:13 pm

Obscure god nobody cares anymore. There are a bunch of gods in Arena, but they're just names. TES religion was given more definition in the later gamse.


I think that is correct. Much of what we now see as Elder Scrolls lore was not established back in Arena. And I'd imagine that for Agamanus, and any other deities mentioned in it that we know nothing about, we can just pretend they were never mentioned unless their names appear again in later games.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:14 pm

So with a host of warrior priests and temple crawling with hellhounds, it would be ok just say this Agamanus is just a Khajiit name for the daedra Boethiah?
I thought it would be cool to include a reimagined version of this temple in a mod.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:44 pm

So with a host of warrior priests and temple crawling with hellhounds, it would be ok just say this Agamanus is just a Khajiit name for the daedra Boethiah?
I thought it would be cool to include a reimagined version of this temple in a mod.


No. The Khajiit name for Boethiah would be Boethiah. If you want to include him, make him a Breton or Imperial warrior-mage who ended up being a god to a bunch of crazy cultists who wanted to make a Jerusalem in the desert.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:03 am

You can just assume that throwaway references from Arena are not important.

But the Halls of Collosus are somewhere near Rimmen, I think?

Well, in Arena they weren't. They've been retconned to being near Rimmen since.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:10 pm

No. The Khajiit name for Boethiah would be Boethiah. If you want to include him, make him a Breton or Imperial warrior-mage who ended up being a god to a bunch of crazy cultists who wanted to make a Jerusalem in the desert.


The Khajiit do have their own names for some of the gods/daedra princes though.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Khajiit

And I'm sure the daedric prince of deception has many faces throughout the Empire!

But having a bunch of crazy cultists is a great idea as well. :)

Well, in Arena they weren't. They've been retconned to being near Rimmen since.


I thought so. I saw a couple of maps with the Halls of the Colossus marked up in the hills near Rimmen, but reading the Arena text it says the Halls of the Colossus are somewhere overlooking the sea, which I guess would have to be Topal Bay in the south. I like the idea of the south better, a giant crumbling ruin deep in the jungle draqed overgrown with vines.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:03 am

It's old lore... whomever it is, it's not an Aedra or Daedra except under an alias. Possibly a lesser spirit, or an ascended mortal of some sort.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:20 pm

Does anyone know who this Agamanus is? Another name for one of the daedra princes, or of the Nine Divines, or some other obscure god?


No, but I have a hunch where they got the http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agamemnon
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:22 am

No, but I have a hunch where they got the http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agamemnon


I remember that guy from Age of Mythology, he svcked. All he did was punch people to death.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:45 am

I remember that guy from Age of Mythology, he svcked. All he did was punch people to death.


Let's call him the Patron of Khajiiti Monks then, despite only a tenuous connection. :coolvaultboy:
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:10 pm

You'd have to do something about his name though. It hardly sounds like a cat.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:35 pm

Maybe Agamanus would have evolved into Alkosh by now?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:59 pm

That sort of thing can always happen but the world needs more culture hero's and saints and other entities with questionable classifications I think. If not, the pigeon hole classification of Aedra/Deadra and everybody else is going to make us all forget what the gods really are.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:20 pm

If not, the pigeon hole classification of Aedra/Deadra and everybody else is going to make us all forget what the gods really are.


What are the gods? If you know, please divulge the secret!
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:17 am

what ever is worshiped with enough devotion.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:29 am

what ever is worshiped with enough devotion.


Please tell me this goes beyond King Edward.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:34 pm

ive never read king edward, but yes. the HoonDing is a god, for instance, even though he was not a aedra/daedra (i guess he could be seen as some version of the enantiamorph, but thats besides the point)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:12 am

ive never read king edward, but yes.


I don't recommend it. (It doesn't mesh with Morrowind Lore). IIRC It has a Smaug-like dragon, a dwarf and some theory about magicka and divinity.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:02 pm

Please tell me this goes beyond King Edward.


Apparently this is true of ANY God, including the Tribunal. Vivec's followers keep the Moon thrown by Sheogorath from crashing down and causing the Apocolpyse, through their love and faith for Vivec. It's not the Heart of Lorkhan that gives him all of his power (this is pre-CHIM, mind you.)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:21 am

What are the gods? If you know, please divulge the secret!


What I was actually getting at was that the view of gods as separated in Nine Gods and Sixteen Demons is a very Imperialized view that limits discussion to whom belongs and whom doesn't.

However looking at the Merish perspective they are all ancestors because they hold the idea that we once were strong like they were and in this context it's much easier to understand and place gods like Vivec of Tiber Septim or any culture Hero that is worshipped locally. It also leaves room for other less well known entities like the Mnemonlia or the Elnofey.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:29 pm

What I was actually getting at was that the view of gods as separated in Nine Gods and Sixteen Demons is a very Imperialized view that limits discussion to whom belongs and whom doesn't.

However looking at the Merish perspective they are all ancestors because they hold the idea that we once were strong like they were and in this context it's much easier to understand and place gods like Vivec of Tiber Septim or any culture Hero that is worshipped locally. It also leaves room for other less well known entities like the Mnemonlia or the Elnofey.


Or their Champions like Trinimac or Moriahus, right?
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