"Justifying Genocide":

Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:39 pm

Why all this hatred for the snow elves they are just like everybody else in skyrim an just trying to survive with exception to he who shall not be named arrogant snob.

That said why not as why all the hatred to the dunmer in windhelm an the argonians.

Infact just look at the dunmer an argonians of windhelm you dont see the dunmer walking around wearing argonian skin boots for what happened during the red year.

Honestly though the surface dwellers only have themselves to blame because apart from a few places that are in remote areas the falmer stick to themselves underground away from mortal civilization an its the adventures an warriors that bring them to the surface.

Leave them alone an they will leave us alone.

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Post » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:44 am

I'm almost certain that the Nords have left the Falmer alone and the Falmer started abducting lone travelers who came too close to caves that were near main roads. I'm looking at you, dragonbridge.

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:53 pm

Unless Gelebor works his Auri-El magic and takes them under his wing... Otherwise, Season Unending.

They weren't even aware of their existence. And for the most part, they still don't.

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Post » Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:12 am

Of course they have the right to seek vengeance and reclaim their land.

This does not, however, equate to genocide. Except when Hevnoraak is guiding the ship but then, that is okay. :P

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:42 pm

Exactamundo.

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Johanna Van Drunick
 
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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:22 pm

I would go with whatever Gelebor would believe. He is the only sentient Falmer left, and was alive at the time.
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Cody Banks
 
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Post » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:29 am

All Falmer are sentient.

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Post » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:09 am

XD .... And thats coming from you slaughtering Random Nords.

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Dan Scott
 
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Post » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:48 am

To be fair, I only conquered Windhelm. I'll leave the rest of Skyrim alone and keep a battalion in Eastmarch to protect my new palace. Going to send the rest of the Betrayed to good ol' Gelebor for peaceful enlightenment, while I do the dirty work, the Snow Prince is responsible for.

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:43 pm

The genocide of Windhelm is still genocide.

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Tasha Clifford
 
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Post » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:28 am

He would want them to live in the Vale, and worship Auri-El in peace. Through strong belief and Auri-El's radiance, they can return to their pure forms. This would be the ideal conclusion to the Betrayed. Peace at last, and away from everyone else.

Well, I did it in an elegant, sophisticated way, and I regularly bathe.

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:51 pm

It's slaughter, not genocide.

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:55 pm

Genocide is "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_extinction, of an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28classification_of_humans%29, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_denomination, or national group",http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide#cite_note-1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

I swear, I have to post this so much I might as well make it my signature.

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:16 pm

I spared the Dunmer.

And no it's not. Because if it is, then every damn conquering is a genocide. :blink: There's a line to draw. It requires the diligent slaughter of said race.

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:57 pm

One city does not a genocide make.

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:37 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_extinction

He killed all of the Nords in Windhelm, yes?

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Post » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:28 am

Except, conquering isn't a deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part of a race.

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Post » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:54 am

I do not think they have the right to commit genocide but that is a very different thing to saying i think they will given the chance, however what evidence have you that they intend to commit genocide?

None whatsoever, yes they kill trespassers but so do people on the surface otherwise we would not have a CW amongst other things and personally i think the risk from the Forsworn is greater and they have every bit as much reason to hate the Nords, particularly Stormcloaks.

Would the Falmer want to conquer Skyrim-don't think so. it would take hundreds if not thousands of years to adapt back to living above ground although they can live in complete darkness their realms are not usually totally dark so they could exist in a vampire like state up above.

Are they intelligent? well i don't know about speech but clearly they can communicate to each other and in all other respects they do everything a Nord does, they farm, they build dwellings, they make things, they smith, they use magica, they keep animals (Chaurus)they kill.

So how does that make them any less intelligent? really i find some of the comments about them on here utterly incomprehensible.

Nords are a race famed for their fighting prowess and intolerance of others so they have picked up quite a few enemies perhaps thirsting for vengeance over the years.

Snow elves, dark elves, elves in general, Thalmor in particular, Forsworn, Argonians, Khajit and more recently the Empire itself.

You reap what you sow.

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Post » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:45 am

:twirl:

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:22 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:56 pm

So did you kill the Nords or Stormcloaks in Windhelm? Y/N?

deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:48 pm

Interestingly enough, I think that the Falmer's numbers are so great now (and probably playing a part in their more recent above ground activities) that the Vale wouldn't be able to support them.

Though, a return to worshiping Auri-El is the most ideal direction for the Betrayed, I agree.

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:42 pm

What's the problem? You like genocide don't you? Oh right, not when it's against your precious race... How bout them apples?

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Post » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:34 pm

I don't care what you did to windhelm in your game. I'm just pointing out that your line of thought is hypocritical. "genocide is bad unless it's against Nords, then it's good and proper."

or "genocide is genocide unless it's against Nords, then it isn't genocide it's... ... I'll get back to you on that."

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Post » Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:29 am

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/slaughter

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