Now freed from the mantle of the Madgod Sheogorath, will the Prince of Order appear in at least a cameo in Skyrim?

As a big fan of the Shivering Isles, especially Jyggalag, I hope we will see a shrine quest similar to Boethia's in Morrowind where the Dragonborn helps Jygalagg strengthen his presence in Mundus.

I would be very disappointed if there was no mention of him at all.

Yes, but I hope there's more to the Daedra this game than the shrines in Oblivion.

Not sure how "lore friendly" it is, but I could see him taking part in the MQ. Jyggalag is the Daedric Prince of Order, and, well, dragons invading and Alduin attempting to swallow the world isn't very "orderly" know, is it? I could see how it might irk Jyggalag a bit.

OR Maybe Alduin devouring the world is preordained. A time to live and a time to die, a time to build and a time to destroy and all that?

That sounds http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Greymarch...

Damn it...you make sense! I guess that(A time to live and a time to die, a time to build and a time to destroy and all that?), in itself, is order.

Does that make it unlikely somehow? Jyggalagg is the Opposite of Creativity.

Agreed. And as most of the Daedra have always shown great interest in the affairs of Mortal and in the mortal world, despite their having been unwilling to participate in its initial creation, I would think that most if not all of them would take issue with their cousin/half-brother Akatosh trying to destroy it. . . Also, if 15 of them cursed Jyggalag so that he would never grow to powerful or dominant, I imagine they might have similar concerns about an unfettered Akatosh/Alduin.

Thank you so much for the interest in my thread, I hope people continue to post so that the developers will see it.

If Jyggalag did have a shrine quest, what kind of item do you expect he would reward the Dragonborn with? So far, we've
only seen one Daedric artifact attributed to Jyggalag, his sword, but it was unenchanted. Do you think that will be retconned
in Skyrim, or will we see a new artifact?

No, but not because the CoC defeated him. The CoC just beat the avatar of Jyggalag, which would not prevent the Prince himself from doing, well...anything.

However, there's no reason that Jyggalag will not return to the Sheogorath-cage that he was in before, in time. The Daedric Princes can just curse him again, and the whole situation has happened before. Arden Sul stopped the Greymarch and became Sheogorath just as the player did, and he ended up becoming Jyggalag too. I assume that once Skyrim happens, Sheogorath will be back to his old self and Jyggalag will be trapped inside the madness again.

I was under the impression that the CoC was the first to actually defeat Jyggalag before he could conquer Sheogorath's Realm, whereas Arden Sul and the other Champions of Sheogorath either were killed or fled the Shivering Isles. Jyggalag himself says that the CoC released Jyggalag from his curse, allowing him to remain in his true form.

As for Arden Sul stopping the Greymarch, remember that the priests of the Sacellum Arden-Sul both tell you that he died.

Not to mention both have different tales.

They say he died because he tore out his heart. The Heretics say that he became Sheogorath. Tearing out your own heart has a huge significance in TES. That's what Lorkhan did. Read http://www.imperial-library.info/content/arden-sul.

I don't know how canon these entries in the Imperial Library are, but if Arden Sul defeated Jyggalag after he conquered the Shivering Isles, than it is entirely possible that the curse was not affected.

I had thought that the difference between the CoC and his predecessors was he was able to stop the Greymarch before Jyggalag had destroyed the Font of Madness. Haskill said something along the lines of "Once the source of Madness becomes the Font of Order, Jyggalag has won" during the main quest.

I think what the CoC saw in Sheogoraths realm was all a trick by Sheogorath himself. Both of these Daedra will be back in their familiar form.

i wouldnt mind it if jygallagg came back and we had tgallo do a quest for him and btw jygalagg said that the Coc had freed him from the curse just sayin :turtle:

Maybe. The whole point of TES games are these big huge events, usually things that have never happened before that are happening. However, I see no reason that the CoC would not inherit the Jyggalag curse. Jyggalag has no where else to go. His realm--his very being--is still inhabited by the CoC and the madness. Jyggalag is just floating through space. The Daedric Princes would still deem him too powerful to be left alone, so what's stopping them from cursing him again? Absolutely nothing.