Jyggalag, sheogorath and daedric spheres/realms -what will e

Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:02 am

I know there is probably other posts, and I looked those also, but I couldn't find very clear answer to my question. To be more specific, I couldn't find clear answer to the problem about Sheo, Jyggalag and Daedric spheres/realms. I mean, you become Sheo, Jyggalag is freed from the curse and then what? Do you grow to be some supermortal, eventually becoming immortal? Perhaps, but maybe I just should start create huge cheese storm somewhere in Tamriel, perhaps to cover an Ayleid ruin with cheese, because they are boring?

Okay, but seriously speaking what will happen now when Jyggalag is freed from the curse? Will there be 16 daedric princes? Or will Jyggalag take your place and compeletely shut down the existence of SI? I Mean This Sheo/Jyggalag incident creates IMO a hefty problem to the 16 Deadra princes rule. So from practical point of view (i.e.for the devs) it would be easy to just destroy the SI and put Jyggalag to the position of 16th Daedra Prince- No loose ends, unknown hero, the CoC, is never heard from again and no extra Daedra Princes? But what do u guys think about this Sheo/Jyggalag problem? Will the other one cease to exist or will they co-exist?
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:18 pm

Will the other one cease to exist or will they co-exist?


I thought that was the entire point of the whole quest?
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:19 am

Do we think Jygallag is Anuic? SI never made that much sense to me.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:57 am

I know there is probably other posts, and I looked those also, but I couldn't find very clear answer to my question. To be more specific, I couldn't find clear answer to the problem about Sheo, Jyggalag and Daedric spheres/realms. I mean, you become Sheo, Jyggalag is freed from the curse and then what? Do you grow to be some supermortal, eventually becoming immortal? Perhaps, but maybe I just should start create huge cheese storm somewhere in Tamriel, perhaps to cover an Ayleid ruin with cheese, because they are boring?

Okay, but seriously speaking what will happen now when Jyggalag is freed from the curse? Will there be 16 daedric princes? Or will Jyggalag take your place and compeletely shut down the existence of SI? I Mean This Sheo/Jyggalag incident creates IMO a hefty problem to the 16 Deadra princes rule. So from practical point of view (i.e.for the devs) it would be easy to just destroy the SI and put Jyggalag to the position of 16th Daedra Prince- No loose ends, unknown hero, the CoC, is never heard from again and no extra Daedra Princes? But what do u guys think about this Sheo/Jyggalag problem? Will the other one cease to exist or will they co-exist?


Concerning the fate of the CoC, that's undeterminable; we can speculate all we want, but in the past few weeks, I think that's been done a lot; the same to JYG as well.

You're right about the JYG-creating-a-problem-for-Oblivion thing because this creates a problem form Creation itself as well; JYG hasn't existed since Existence started, mainly because he COULDN'T. The fact that he's back means something bad is gonna happen, as in Landfall, as in the Apocalypse.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:38 am

You're right about the JYG-creating-a-problem-for-Oblivion thing because this creates a problem form Creation itself as well; JYG hasn't existed since Existence started, mainly because he COULDN'T. The fact that he's back means something bad is gonna happen, as in Landfall, as in the Apocalypse.


Or a massive shift in the direction of the world... somewhat like the laws of physics suddenly subtly changing.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:33 am

Or a massive shift in the direction of the world... somewhat like the laws of physics suddenly subtly changing.


Hmm, indeed. I take it that that's your theory on "Landfall?" Or am I just looking much too deep into your statement...
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:50 am

Don't take me too seriously, I'm a little drunk... and live in GMT timezone, so it's twenty to four in the morning here,
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:57 am

There won't be a Mundus Apocalypse. Why? Because that would mean the end of the TES series. And there's plenty more revenue to generate with sequels; we've only done in-depth games on three provinces.

Sometimes it helps to look at things from the perspective of beyond the fourth wall.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:43 am

There won't be a Mundus Apocalypse. Why? Because that would mean the end of the TES series. And there's plenty more revenue to generate with sequels; we've only done in-depth games on three provinces.

Sometimes it helps to look at things from the perspective of beyond the fourth wall.

Not that I'm saying that I'll believe there is an apocalypse on the way:

However, if there is a Mundus Apocalypse, it won't mean the end of the TES series. Why? Because that's where we come in. The player is there to come in, save the world from this apocalypse and thereby ensure that Bethesda still has a universe to shuffle out games from...
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:38 am

There won't be a Mundus Apocalypse. Why? Because that would mean the end of the TES series. And there's plenty more revenue to generate with sequels; we've only done in-depth games on three provinces.

Sometimes it helps to look at things from the perspective of beyond the fourth wall.


Something of mass magnitude is going to happen; Jyggalag's appearance IN existence shows that. If it isn't the Apocalypse (NOT the end of TES), then it's pretty close to that. Some catastrophic crap is gonna go down.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:49 am

You're right about the JYG-creating-a-problem-for-Oblivion thing because this creates a problem form Creation itself as well; JYG hasn't existed since Existence started, mainly because he COULDN'T. The fact that he's back means something bad is gonna happen, as in Landfall, as in the Apocalypse.

That's because he was still convinced free will was an illusion and that things could still be predicted. The new daMdoG has shown him otherwise. Jyg may appear in the next game as a summonable Daedra lord but I don't think he will have any impact on the story.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:46 am

i honestly think JYG will get his own shirne but not be in the main story
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:16 am

His quest will probably be killing some Sheogorath worshippers living nearby.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:51 am

or restoring order to a dungeon full of mad people
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:16 am

Jyggalag goes back to his own realm. He is free from the curse. The position of Sheogorath is passed onto Bendu Olo, so he maintains the Isles and the sphere of Madness. Now, both Jyggy and Sheo can co-exist. They will probably both have shrines and shrine quests in TESV.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:23 pm

Jyggalag is free to roam the planes of Oblivion,which means he go bye-bye.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:58 pm

Jyggalag goes back to his own realm. He is free from the curse. The position of Sheogorath is passed onto Bendu Olo, so he maintains the Isles and the sphere of Madness. Now, both Jyggy and Sheo can co-exist. They will probably both have shrines and shrine quests in TESV.


The CoC being Bendu Olo is not canon and never will be. The race and gender of the CoC will remain unknown as is the custom for ES heroes.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:52 am

That's because he was still convinced free will was an illusion and that things could still be predicted. The new daMdoG has shown him otherwise. Jyg may appear in the next game as a summonable Daedra lord but I don't think he will have any impact on the story.


But the fact that he even EXISTS has to say otherwise. We still don't even know the fate of the CoC or what he's gonna do or CAN do.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:12 pm

But the fact that he even EXISTS has to say otherwise.

I don't see why. Dagon still exists but not everything has been destroyed. Boethiah still exists yet governments still stand un topled. Sanguine still exists but not everyone is engaged in perverse revalry.

Just because in some sense Jygg stands for predetermination doesn't mean mundus is going to collapse because he is free.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:09 pm

I don't see why. Dagon still exists but not everything has been destroyed. Boethiah still exists yet governments still stand un topled. Sanguine still exists but not everyone is engaged in perverse revalry.

Just because in some sense Jygg stands for predetermination doesn't mean mundus is going to collapse because he is free.


...but the fact he EXISTS IN EXISTENCE says something. I'm not saying that some major crap is going to happen just for that fact, but it's more of a precursor to some worse problem; probably not Landfall though, now that I actually think about it. But something.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:29 pm

The CoC being Bendu Olo is not canon and never will be. The race and gender of the CoC will remain unknown as is the custom for ES heroes.

It may not be confirmed, it may not be deconfirmed either. Let's leave it at that, I don't want this to erupt into another argument.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:42 am

It may not be confirmed, it may not be deconfirmed either. Let's leave it at that, I don't want this to erupt into another argument.

Easter eggs and quirks of Cs object references aren't canon. Plus, Bendu Olo is dead. Deconfirmed by common sense.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:37 pm

All we have to do is trick Jyg again. Problem solved.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:03 am

All we have to do is trick Jyg again. Problem solved.

I don't think that'll work. The definition of madness is doing something twice and expecting a different result the second time, or something like that). Jyggalag, finally being free of the cycle, probably isn't going to fall for it again. Heck, he probably predicted it the first time.
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Post » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:28 am

I don't think that'll work. The definition of madness is doing something twice and expecting a different result the second time, or something like that). Jyggalag, finally being free of the cycle, probably isn't going to fall for it again. Heck, he probably predicted it the first time.

I didn't say it would work. But as said in game, he can't predict free will.
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