I recently read about the nine divines and noticed that a lot of daedric princes and
nine divines were opposites. Example Namira and Dibella. So since Jyggalag is
no longer apart of Sheogorath does that make Jyggalag the tenth divine?

Aedra/Divines are those who took part in Lorkhan's plan or are otherwise bound to the Mundus.

Daedra are those that did not/are not.

Lorkhan is the one who conceived the plan.

Which category does Jyg fit into?

Furthermore, the Eight and One are an Imperial institution. They are only some of the Aedra, and one of them is not an Aedra at all.

Keep the definition of aedra and daedra simple.

Daedra: Beings that did not participate in the creation of Nirn and now reside in Oblivion. This includes all the princes, even Jyggy
Aedra: Being that participated in the creation of Nirn
Magna-Ge: Being that did not participate in the creation of Nirn, and now reside in the Aetherius. This includes Magnus.

As to where Tiber lies, he ascended into godhood, and he's no aedra.

As for daedra = blood of padomay and aedra = blood of anu, that's just bull pewp, and best left to be ignored. Both aedra and daedra are a mix, and do not let any altmer tell you otherwise.

Fixed.

Meh, it's close enough.

I was under the impression that Magnus is Mehrunes Dagon.

Mehrunes Dagon is a deadric prince while Magnus was a spirit that was the architect of Mundus but he became disgusted by what had been created that he left in quite a hurry before he got trapped in this plane and tore a hole going back into Aetherius which is still visible today as the sun. And magic streams in through that hole into Mundus

Yeah, I thought Magnus-->Leper King-->Mehrunes Dagon

Who is the Leper King?

In the http://www.imperial-library.info/content/seven-fights-aldudagga Fight One--a Nordic myth that depicts the Nordic variant of the Time God Alduin eating the current Kalpa to move to the next--the Leaper Demon king is a spirit that is turned into Mehrunes Dagon by Alduin. The Greedy Man in this myth is Lorkhan, and the text alludes to the fact that the Leaper Demon King is a Nordic Magnus. This is better reinforced by an anonymous post a while back, which contains a snippet from a http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1102320-why-does-dagon-want-nirn/page__p__16124805&#entry16124805

In short, the Leaper King is Magnus, who later becomes Mehrunes Dagon, both of whom are somehow tied to Alduin. Fight One of the Aldudagga goes to explain Dagon's sphere and how he must destroy that which he stole from Alduin. I'm pretty sure that that's the case, anyways.

Leaper King. He's from "the Seven Fights of Aldudagga", over on the Imperial Library. He's supposed to be Dagon before he was Dagon.

Hmm... all of the spirits seem to be confused about who they are


In any case in those songs there is this passage

"He came to Alduin (who always eats Nords first) and said, "Wait, wait, wait! Wait! It is not time to destroy the world yet!""

Maybe another hint as to what may happen in TES V?

Thats cause there were at least eight versions of each during the Dawn. See http://imperial-library.info/content/shor-son-shor.

I've never had the sugar to make heads or tails of that text. How did you derive that conclusion, Lady N?

Was that the thing about being replaced by mirrors (ie different reflections/versions of each) and being outnumbered 8 to 1?

In short, yes. I was in the middle of a long post about it when I pressed something weird on my keyboard and refreshed the page :/

dude wut... no way... Jyggalag has already been a Daedra and Sheogorath is not just part of him it is him. Jyggalag is one of the original Daedra anyway. He always hass been a Daedra. He was cursed to become Sheogorath because the other Daedra were jealous of him because he became too powerful. So they cursed him to become wut he hates the most like every 1000 yars or 100000 years or something. He hated insanity and loved order. So Jyggalag and Sheogorath are actually teh same person. So no he is not a divine because he did not help create Mundus and he is Padomaic and not Anu or w/e they call it. d

Well, I believe that too, but I didn't want people's heads to pop with all the mythic mumbo jumbo. This is a thread of making sure people know to keep it simple with the definition of Daedra and Aedra, which is what I posted already.

Keep the definition simple, people. The aedra and daedra are a mix of Anu and Padomay, no matter what the altmer tell you. They are always wrong.

Could we theoretically say:

All Daedra are Magna-Ge, but not all Magna-Ge are Daedra?

or perhaps:

All Magna-Ge are Aedra, but not all Aedra are Magna-Ge?

No. The word you're looking for is "Et'ada" all Daedra and Aedra are Et'ada, the word for divine beings in general.

The part about living in the Aetherius and Oblivion sets them apart. So not, what you said is incorrect. Magna-Ge = Aetherius, Daedra = Oblivion.

Yeah but aren't most of the Magna-Ge still technically Aedra because the parts they gave up for Mundus are still there? Or did they take them with them as they flew into the sun?

I'm under the impression that those who fled are still intact, and the only reason why Magnus was weakened, was because breaking through oblivion to the aetherius was taxing.

This was my line of thinking. Since the Magna-Ge abandoned Nirn, they did participate in its creation, perchance making them Aedra.



But if this is true.. then wouldn't that make some Magna-Ge Daedra? Since they didn't participate (sacrifice part of themselves) in the creation of Nirn?

I was also absorbing the idea that Magnus is Mehrunes Dagon. And Magnus = Magna-Ge and Mehrunes Dagon = Daedra, right?

EDIT:

Though I do understand that Magna-Ge = Aetherius and Daedra = Oblivion. But could they not travel between realms? Or perhaps reside with one foot in each?