Karma System : V

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:46 am

I MYSELF WAS NOT A FAN OF FALLOUT 3 AND NEW VEGAS KARMA SYSTEM. I DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHY YOUR KARMA WOULD DECREASE IF NO ONE SAW YOU COMMIT THE CRIME LIKE STEALING SOMETHING. I ALSO ALWAYS FELT LIKE I WAS BEING PRESSURED TO DO EVERYTHING FOR THE GOOD KARMA INSTEAD OF MAKING MY OWN DESCISION. I ENJOYED OBLIVIONS KARMA SYSTEM BECAUSE IT WASNT PRESSURING AT ALL BUT WAS STILL SOMEWHAT THERE. I WOULD ALSO CONSIDER A BETTER NEW KARMA SYSTEM FOR SKYRIM THAT WASNT AS PRESSURING AND AS BIG OF A ROLE (ALTHOUGH I STILL THINK ITS A IMPORTANT QUALITY IN THE GAME) I WOULD LIKE ITS IMPORTANCE TO BE TONED DOWN

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS TOPIC?

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:24 am

What do I think? I think you need to turn off the caps lock.

Personally, good/evil, infamy/fame etc should be scrapped. Instead, reputation among cities and factions should be used instead.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:37 am

I personally would rather it be along the lines of an improved version of Oblivion's. I found Fallout's system to be rather disastrous actually.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:34 am

Karma svcks, in my opinion.

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:57 pm

What do I think? I think you need to turn off the caps lock.

Personally, good/evil, infamy/fame etc should be scrapped. Instead, reputation among cities and factions should be used instead.

ha sorry about the caps lock i couldnt figure out how the fonts work and i thought that would be easier to read

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:43 pm

Like Morrowind should be an option, where there is no Karma. At most it should be like Oblivion but once again, NO Fallout features. Oblivion is not Fallout with swords and Fallout isn't Oblivion with guns.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:55 pm

The default font is fine, but your caps lock mess looks...well...immature.

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:31 am

Personally, good/evil, infamy/fame etc should be scrapped. Instead, reputation among cities and factions should be used instead.

Yep. I wouldn't mind a general fame/infamy score that is based on quantifiable, obvious actions (couple main quest? gain fame. Get high bounty? Infamous). An arbitrary rating of what is good and what is bad, like a karma meter or paragon score or anything else, removes the possibility of moral ambiguity from the story.

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:01 am

I MYSELF WAS NOT A FAN OF FALLOUT 3 AND NEW VEGAS KARMA SYSTEM. I DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHY YOUR KARMA WOULD DECREASE IF NO ONE SAW YOU COMMIT THE CRIME LIKE STEALING SOMETHING. I ALSO ALWAYS FELT LIKE I WAS BEING PRESSURED TO DO EVERYTHING FOR THE GOOD KARMA INSTEAD OF MAKING MY OWN DESCISION. I ENJOYED OBLIVIONS KARMA SYSTEM BECAUSE IT WASNT PRESSURING AT ALL BUT WAS STILL SOMEWHAT THERE. I WOULD ALSO CONSIDER A BETTER NEW KARMA SYSTEM FOR SKYRIM THAT WASNT AS PRESSURING AND AS BIG OF A ROLE (ALTHOUGH I STILL THINK ITS A IMPORTANT QUALITY IN THE GAME) I WOULD LIKE ITS IMPORTANCE TO BE TONED DOWN

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS TOPIC?

It doesn't matter if someone saw you commit a crime or not. Karma doesn't depend upon people knowing what you did. Personally, I liked Fallouts Karma system.

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:50 pm

The default font is fine, but your caps lock mess looks...well...immature.

Well sorry about the inconvience im new to this forum

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:13 pm

I don't really like the idea of having karma in the games. It imposes a moral structure that I might not completely agree with. Like if I wanted to play a "good" character, the game designers might disagree with what I think is "good" or "bad". I like the fame/infamy system they had in Oblivion.

To be honest I would like it to be completely behind the scenes.

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:55 pm

Either something new or stick with OB's fame and infamy.

Although I'd like it if there was no "good/evil" point over all, but certain quests, etc. would gain or loose positive reputation toward certain factions, towns, etc.

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:27 pm

I loved how Oblivion had no Karma System apart from a simple Fame/Infamy rating. I wouldn't change it as that was one of the best things about Oblivion. If they do have a Karma System I want it nothing like Fallouts Karma System I would want it from the ground up.

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:56 pm

Although I'd like it if there was no "good/evil" point over all, but certain quests, etc. would gain or loose positive reputation toward certain factions, towns, etc.

Same here, which is kind of what Morrowind and DF did.

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:47 am

Lets not change the core game aspects. Skyrim is an Elder Scrolls game. Not a stand alone or a Fallout game.

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:46 pm

Yes, I'd much prefer having reputation with factions/towns/people then a good/evil thing. Not only is it supremely over done, but it was a bad idea from the start, black and white worlds are boring.

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:58 am

Keep Infamy and Fame in my opinion but improve upon it

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:12 pm

Lets not change the core game aspects. Skyrim is an Elder Scrolls game. Not a stand alone or a Fallout game.

If anything, OB changed the core system. Previously, it was factions. Was done in DF, and later MW with the "how well you are known" meter just being reputation.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:33 pm

Either something new or stick with OB's fame and infamy.

Although I'd like it if there was no "good/evil" point over all, but certain quests, etc. would gain or loose positive reputation toward certain factions, towns, etc.

agreed

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:24 pm

Well sorry about the inconvience im new to this forum

May I then offer a fishy stick?
http://images.uesp.net//c/c4/Fishystick.jpg

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:03 pm

No good or evil, or karma or anything. Just reputation. If people know you did something, and they don't like your actions they don't like you. New Vegas esque I guess but different

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:49 pm

Same here, which is kind of what Morrowind and DF did.

i don't agree, i want to be able to join every faction like in oblivion and morrowind, i want to do all the quests not jus for one faction because the other factions hate me

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:49 am

i don't agree, i want to be able to join every faction like in oblivion and morrowind, i want to do all the quests not jus for one faction because the other factions hate me

Same here i was so mad when i couldnt do everything in New Vegas becuase they would hate me... im one of those people who has to complete everything...its also slightly annoying getting attacked at everytime that faction that hates you

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:33 am

i don't agree, i want to be able to join every faction like in oblivion and morrowind, i want to do all the quests not jus for one faction because the other factions hate me

You couldn't join every faction in Morrowind. You had to choose between Redoran, Hlaalu, or Telvanni. Even some the guilds you could join, you could only do so many of the quests before you had to off someone in the other guild you were possibly in, thus ending their questline.

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:28 pm

Karma? TES has Karma...? Skyrim sounds very eastern all of a sudden...