Okay peeps. Why?

Let me first explain why I'm posting this... After reading through the sheer ABUNDENCE of posts Skyrim accumilates every hour of every day I can safely say it is far from being flawless and it seems to have got hundreds of things wrong. But for all of these hundreds of things it has got wrong, in my opinion it has got thousands of things right. It's a great game and I'm getting a lot of enjoyment out of it.

Secondly, I am playing on PC. Yes I dislike the UI, and I'm really struggling to get used to it. I find it sometimes unclear about what I have got selected when I'm casually clicking around, and I sometimes buy things from a vendor instead of selling my loots. This makes it so I have to reload my last autosave upon entering the shop and things. This is the main problem that comes to mind because I have been playing tonight and its obviously on the tip of my tongue. But these small issues are barely a major problem.

I could elaborate upon things like this all night but I'll save that to all you guys who seem to be doing a good job already. haha. However... Upon reading through a fair few posts I see things like... Todd Howard has basically killed the franchise etc. It is as if people believe he deserves the same treatment as some dude who has just come on the scene and tried to pick up where others have left off and had no connection with the series and what it is about at all.

Now... am I right in believing Todd was around for Oblivion and even Morrowind? I don't know if he was around before that, but lets be honest, I think he's pretty down with what the Elder Scrolls is about and saying he's killed it is abit harsh is it not? I think he's done a great job in making an immersive single player experience which most RPG's fall short of. I find the game generally much better than Oblivion but I also find certain small things which past games had that have been removed and I can see why people are annoyed. I just think they take it abit too far with their 'bit-ching'. It must be hard to make a great, vast and deep game which caters to everyone in exactly the way each individual wants it to be.

To close on this subject though, I will say that I'd actually quite like it if he pushed the dev team into just adding in some old code from past titles (and leaving it unused for now) for things like spell crafting (which has been removed) and then said something like... "here you go modders, atm these are unused things but if you like these elements and want them back - MOD THE SH-IT OUTTA THEM, BRING THEM BACK! but we don't have time atm with patches and everything ." But sadly, things that are removed completely from the hard code will not be able to be added in via mods i'd have thought? as people can only build upon what is there? could be wrong. I suppose we have to wait for the mod kits yes?

But if what I'm saying is 100% correct, yes it's a shame, but I'm sure he has his reasons for deciding these things. Also though people, do remember that Todd Howard is not the only guy behind the dev team and is not the only voice of power. But you should know that he loves the series and by no means wants to destroy it. Keep Bethesda Elder Scrolls dev team alive, as they always strive to deliver a great game you will enjoy even if it does take some further tweaking after release.

Take it easy peeps. It's time for me to get back to soaking up a great game. hehe. .

JC.

I don't really see why people blame everything on Todd Howard anyway. It's like the US president - everyone blames him, even though the rest of the government have a bigger say in what gets done. :confused:

But yes I agree. While a lot of mistakes were made(destruction magic, vampirism, etc), I think it is just to be expected in a game this big. No-one can create a game that makes everyone happy and sometimes new ideas turn out to have been a huge mistake. I can only hope these mistakes are fixed and that Bethesda learns from them.

This.

What's up with Vampirism? I know Destruction magic utterly svcks big sweaty donkey balls, but what about Vampirism?

The people who love Skyrim, and Todd Howard, excessively outweigh the people who don't. The flood of hate topics are a tiny percentage of the actual playerbase. They just happen to be the only ones posting entire threads on the forum, while other players are busy replying to they're topics in defense, or are continuing to play the game. "I love Skyrim," topics don't exist because they hold no weight, are considered spam, and they fall to the bottom of the pile. We are much quicker to defend the game in the popular hate topics, than go to a praise topic and say "I agree, its cool."

Steam had hundreds of thousands of players playing Skyrim on release, just on the PC, without even considering the Xbox and PS3. Only a tiny percentage of them are here complaining.

A lot of people were hoping for a better vampire system and quests to go along with it. Instead they got vampirism that is practically the same as Oblivions and no vampire factions or anything.

Everybody blames Notch for everything Minecraft-related too.

I quite like the replies in this thread already. Keep them coming constructively people, lets not let this thread be beaten by the ar-seholes haha. To be honest... I would have liked elements like vampirism to have been eleborated upon. I guess we can atleast be thankful that vampirism is in there for the modders to work on, 'cause it can be done. I believe the modders already have some awesome ideas in there for things to do with it anyway.

As for what others have said, I couldn't agree more.

One thing about these games should be mentioned though and I know I won't be making friends by saying it. I used to play Oblivion on the 360 and I enjoyed it a lot as I couldn't afford a decent enough PC to play it or many other games. I can see why the console market is a good one, especially in England where I live and with the recession we have going on at the present moment, the countries economy being completely shafted, the lack of job availability and the rest. But once I saw Oblivion running on a PC with mods it really brought me back into PC gaming with avengence. I am thankful for modding capabilities, in all honesty it wouldn't be hard to make it so mods could run on the 360 since its essentially a PC in a box anyway (not so sure about how the PS3 would go about this as I aint too clued up on it from a coding standpoint). But until the day comes when this is possible, PC gaming is definately the way to go with a game series such as the Elder Scrolls. The modders have my support as mods can always evolve way beyond a games lifetime.

I do feel for the console gamers though, as they are pretty much stuck to what Bethesda do with the game. Again though, you can't blame Bethesda for this, as they didn't invent how the console system works. Lol. Again this seems to bring me back to the original point of me posting this topic.

JC.

hahaha! is this at all a serious post?

It's going off-topic but, I love minecraft... and the bizzare thing about it is, when I installed it, I thought I was going to be one of the haters. I aint sure why I decided to get it, I guess I was just waiting to be proven wrong!

How many people actually work on Minecraft anyway? I was under the impression that it's pretty much Notch and maybe like 1 or possibly 2 others?

from a coding standpoint anyway...

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There are a lot of people unhappy with the ridiculous lack of common sense that went into some aspects of design....plus the omissions and bugs we are seeing in the game.

It is the perceived one at the top that gets the blame when things go wrong.

I like Todd Howard. He has a ot of charisma, is very energetic about each game he speaks about and creates a good buzz around the game. He is doing a good job.

I think Todd does a great job as a PR man. I don't work with him or know anyone who does, so I have no idea what he's like professionally beyond that. The facts of his tenure speak for themselves however: he's made millions of dollars for Zenimax. Great games, crap games, whatever. He's making pots of cash for his employers. Thats the American paradigm isn't it? Whereby everything else is irrelevant.

Because in the gaming industry, you shoot the messenger.

Confirmation bias, the Dunning-Krueger Effect, a lack of foundation in critical thinking skills, emotional bias and ego. This is why people talk smack on a company the loves what it does. It inspires me just to hear Todd talk about game design, as does Chris Metzen and Blizzard's team. These people are doing what they love to do and living the dream. Unfortunately everyone thinks they're a special snowflake and there's an automatic knee jerk response towards any company making money which leads some people to think anyone daring to defend a big bad corporation is naive it seems.

I havent seen a bug, am not hating destruction at all, and I absolutely love this game.

The only thing I dont get is the dual wielding, why no parry mechanic based on block skill? Seems simple, everyone has a middle mouse button.

I just came on these forums today because I couldnt believe how horribly slow alchemy leveling was.

But yeah, Ive been playing non stop, have nothing bad to say about the game at all.

Todd Howard Is Nevararine Incarnate

haha.

The problem with all this talk about bugs is, I think a lot of what people call bugs are actually not bugs at all, but more just how it is designed to be, whether this be that the design is flawed or not. I think people need to give it a rest, report a 'bug' (or what they think is one) once, and wait for a response from Bethesda. From all my years as PC gamer I am fully aware of what a bug is and what a bug isn't. Some peoples idea of bugs on here are completely distorted.

I have not yet seen a bug either, nor a slowdown (and i dont even have a powerhouse of a gaming machine). Oh wait... I have seen 1 sword floating in midair and a few little barely even worth noticing glitches, I think I may have to go cry about it. paahahaha. But seriously... lets be honest, the game looks great, it plays great, nothing is really broken. If you can argue with that then maybe a better way of putting it is that nothing is MAJORLY broken, and the game is not unplayable in my mind by any means. I have played so much worse in time you know. Some games these days, just outright svck. I'm so glad Skyrim doesn't.

Some are completely bugged, some are just lackluster to put it bluntly, some offer no ability to have any style of your own or put your own stamp on it, and some are just small in content. But what really takes the cake is when a game is small, lacking content and playstyle, totally run of the mill but yet completely bugged too. This also happens too these days, I won't mention names though.

I will be honest, with all the hype Skyrim got, I actually honestly thought it was gonna come crashing RIGHT down, and faster than I could even pronounce the name of the game itself!

JC.

Todd is as a GOD OF HAPPINESS!!! And once more he has given us what we want..HAPPINESS!!!

Hail Todd Howard! Saviour of The Elder Scrolls!

I don't have an issue wth Todd beyond the fact that as exampled in this thread, people buy into his PR, and think he's the brains behind the TES series, and really he isnt. I don't like it when he goes on about other series that have nothing to do with TES, Conan? Lotr? those series have games/movies/books about them already, can you be original and stick with TES? there was nada Original in Oblivion, and in Oblivion is when you started hearing ALOT about Todd, his face became familiar with the TES series despite the fact their were far more people doing things with the series (and being original about it).

Now Skyrim comes along, its epic, its awesome it resembles in no way WORLD wise what Oblivion was, you can see they put effort into the detail and designing of the world, where they feel short was the design descisions, can we blame Todd? why the hell not, people seem to ONLY give him credit when things go good, ontop of the fact the devs exerpt on Todd were along the lines of " he treated the development from a players standpoint, if it wasn't -fun- it had to go" and you see where that ends up right? isn't fun and ends of a means? fun doesn't stay being fun if it can't change. and REALLY folks do you think the crafting system is "fun"?

So you people can keep ignoring the Hundred or so devs responsible for our aquisition of the TES series, and keep bloating up Todd like he's the best thing since sliced bread. I hope it comes crashing down on you.

I'm 42 hours into the game and my charecter is only 11th level; mainly because he spends most of his time walking and exploring. He has bumpt off three dragons and done a few quests, and laughs at the few minor bugs he has see.

Damn you Tod Howard, you should be Hung, Drawn and Quartered for screwing up my life.

so there are no vampire factions? I figured if I became a vampire I could make vampire friends...I thought there were vampire clans in morrowind.


Todd has been around since Redguard. and he is a good dude.

I agree totally. Well with everything bar you implying the crafting system isn't fun. I really don't think it is supposed to be 'fun' as such but just add another new layer on top of what was already there to be developed in future titles. It's not really a question of how fun it is but more about how it adds that bit of extra depth. I like it, I feel crafting was all the elder scrolls was missing. Sure it could be better, but it is a start afterall. But yes... everything else you said is pretty much true to my original point. .

@ronray99 - haha you are playing the game right my friend! I'm only level 10 myself. I just haven't had the time I'd like to have had to pump into this game to be honest. I just started the main quest by accident whilst taking a sword to the Jarls assistant guy, I've killed 2 dragons up to press, and done a few quests plus a few miscs and I just can't stop exploring or getting sidetracked doing other crazy things. Playing on MASTER difficulty for the most tactical/strategic gameplay I can muster from this title. I hope to be bogged down with Skyrim for a hell of a long time. Seems like you may just be getting the same amount of enjoyment as I currently am! haha!!! Have fun!

JC.

ok. Todd started on redguard. It was him and 5 others when they went to the company brass that owned them and said they wanted to go big with morrowind. so he was a major force in morrowind, oblivion, and skyrim. is he the brains? NO. he is the LEADER...who gets other brains including his own, to do the work. TODD wrote the construction set for morrowind.


Go watch ALL YOU HISTORY ARE BELONG TO US on machinima you tube.

saying todd is not the brains is like saying steve jobs is not the brains. of course jobs is not the only genius at apple. of course he did not lilterally make the iphone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0_PiTtSp_I

Todd Howard abuse Hotline: 1-800-BuckUFuddy-IdoneIt-myWay

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What the hell no Todd wasn't the leader, wow...what... he wrote the construction set? what kind of grade A bullcrap is that. from what little info is around on Beths history in regards to TES he was a Tester for Arena, was around for Daggerfall and Lead Redguard, NOW everyone collectively believes he lead Oblivion and Ken rolsten didnt right? then why is KOA saying he was the brains behind Oblivion when you didnt see Kens face at all? He went all out with Oblivion, and was Co lead with Ken for Morrowind. see thats my gripe arses who glorify this guy like he's game god incarnate ONLY because he shows his face so much.