Keeps crashing with Morrowind Comes Alive : III

» Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:33 am

My game keeps crashing in the guilds mage in Ald-Ruhn, it seems to happen at a specific time in the game. I saved it right before it crashes, so all I have to do is load it up, then I literally just have to turn around and it'll crash. I loaded my previous file, and I accidentally slept too long in the game, so I teleported back into the guilds mage in Ald-Ruhn, and no crashes. I tried unchecking all the .esps except for Morrowind Comes Alive, but it still crashes. Does that mean it doesn't conflict with anything?

Here's my warning file. The warning file is the error log right?

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_expensive_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_expensive_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_expensive_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

EDIT: I guess those errors comes from Better Clothes, so it must be harmless then.

» Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:31 pm

Well, if you're running a ginormous amount of mods, it may simply be just that. You're running too many mods. Or, maybe something is actually causing it. Post your modlist?

» Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:17 pm

Well, if you're running a ginormous amount of mods, it may simply be just that. You're running too many mods. Or, maybe something is actually causing it. Post your modlist?

I do have 163 mods running, but I tried running MCA with no other mods, not even the morrowind patch or better bodies, and it still crashed, though I could try uninstalling the other mods instead of just unchecking their esps. That fixed it before with my other problem, that would take too much effort though...

Here's my modlist.

Spoiler

GameFile0=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
GameFile1=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
GameFile2=Better Heads.esm
GameFile3=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile4=Book Rotate.esm
GameFile5=GDR_MasterFile.esm
GameFile6=MCA.esm
GameFile7=Morrowind Advanced.esm
GameFile8=Morrowind Patch v1.6.5-BETA.esm
GameFile9=Morrowind.esm
GameFile10=Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
GameFile11=TR_Data.esm
GameFile12=TR_Map1.esm
GameFile13=TR_Map2.esm
GameFile14=Texture Fix 2.0.esm
GameFile15=Tribunal.esm
GameFile16=A_flock_of_seagulls.esp
GameFile17=Acheron's Camping Gear 2.esp
GameFile18=Akavirian Armor V 1.0.esp
GameFile19=Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
GameFile20=Animated Morrowind II.esp
GameFile21=Antares' Big Mod 5.3.esp
GameFile22=Area Effect Projectiles (PAR Edit).esp
GameFile23=Arrow De-nocker.esp
GameFile24=AscendedSleeperSFX.esp
GameFile25=AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
GameFile26=BAR_MournholdTeleportationFix.esp
GameFile27=BTB - Alchemy.esp
GameFile28=BTB - Character.esp
GameFile29=BTB - Equipment.esp
GameFile30=BTB - Spells.esp
GameFile31=Balconyhouse.esp
GameFile32=Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
GameFile33=Beds4Rent.esp
GameFile34=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile35=Better Clothes Complete (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile36=Better Skulls.ESP
GameFile37=Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
GameFile38=Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
GameFile39=Carry your Bedroll.esp
GameFile40=Clean Dragon Blade.esp
GameFile41=Clean Icxth, Morrowind Edition.esp
GameFile42=Clean PJM Themed bowsets.esp
GameFile43=Complete Armor Joints.esp
GameFile44=DM_DB Armor Replacer-ExpDDBA (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile45=DN-GDRv1 (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile46=DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp
GameFile47=DX_Thedungeon.esp
GameFile48=Daedric Broadsword.esp
GameFile49=Daedric Crossbow.esp
GameFile50=Deus Ex Machina - A Steampunkyish Mod.ESP
GameFile51=Divine_domina_part_1.esp
GameFile52=Divine_domina_part_2.esp
GameFile53=Divine_domina_part_3_Tribunal.esp
GameFile54=Divine_domina_part_4.esp
GameFile55=Djangos Dialogue.ESP
GameFile56=DreadKnight.ESP
GameFile57=DremoraLords.esp
GameFile58=EBQ_Artifact.esp
GameFile59=EW_Glass_Shortsword.esp
GameFile60=EcoAdjCrime (Tresspass Edit).esp
GameFile61=EcoAdjMerchantSkills (Disposition Edit).esp
GameFile62=GCD Over 60 level speedup.esp
GameFile63=GCD StartScript for Trib or Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile64=Galsiahs Character Development.esp
GameFile65=GnisisEggminePass.esp
GameFile66=Healers.esp
GameFile67=HerTamedLightning.esp
GameFile68=Hold it - MCA addon.esp
GameFile69=Hold it - SF npc addon.esp
GameFile70=Hold it - TR addon.ESP
GameFile71=Hold it - replacer.esp
GameFile72=Holy King Armor.esp
GameFile73=HospitalityPapers.esp
GameFile74=I wished I had a Hobbit hole! v-2.2.esp
GameFile75=IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile76=Ice_RubyKnightsArmor.esp
GameFile77=InterventionPlus.esp
GameFile78=JojjosFrostmourneForMorrowind.esp
GameFile79=K_Potion_Upgrade_1.2.esp
GameFile80=LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
GameFile81=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
GameFile82=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_21_suppl.esp
GameFile83=LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_20.esp
GameFile84=LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp
GameFile85=LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
GameFile86=LGNPC_Khuul_v2_21.esp
GameFile87=LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp
GameFile88=LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
GameFile89=LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_31.esp
GameFile90=LGNPC_SecretMasters_MCA5.esp
GameFile91=LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp
GameFile92=LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp
GameFile93=LGNPC_TelMora_v1_30.esp
GameFile94=LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp
GameFile95=LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_20.esp
GameFile96=LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_61.esp
GameFile97=LeFemmArmor.esp
GameFile98=Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile99=Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp
GameFile100=Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
GameFile101=Lgnpc_SN.esp
GameFile102=Lich King.esp
GameFile103=LichKingPauldronsHelmet.esp
GameFile104=MCA - Divine Domina Addon.ESP
GameFile105=MCA - Guards Patch.ESP
GameFile106=MCA - TR Addon.ESP
GameFile107=MW_Adv_PHW.esp
GameFile108=MW_Adv_Required (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile109=Mashed Lists.esp
GameFile110=Master Index Upgrade.esp
GameFile111=MoragTongWritFix.esp
GameFile112=Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp
GameFile113=Morrowind Crafting Equipment.esp
GameFile114=Nasty Camonna Tong.esp
GameFile115=New Argonian Bodies - Mature.esp
GameFile116=New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.esp
GameFile117=Nudity Greeting Expansion V1.esp
GameFile118=OR_Fang.esp
GameFile119=OR_ForkH.esp
GameFile120=OR_SpiritEat.esp
GameFile121=Oriental weapons pack.esp
GameFile122=P.R.E. v4.0.esp
GameFile123=Passive_Healthy_Wildlife.esp
GameFile124=Persuasion Response Expansion.esp
GameFile125=Psy_VGR_Armour.esp
GameFile126=Quick Char.esp
GameFile127=Quieter_UI_Sounds.esp
GameFile128=Romance_Follow_v10EV.esp
GameFile129=Romance_v37EV.esp
GameFile130=Royal Golden Armor v3.1.esp
GameFile131=Siege at Firemoth.esp
GameFile132=Sotonhorian.ESP
GameFile133=Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp
GameFile134=Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
GameFile135=Syc_HerbalismforPurists (Pearl Bug Edit).esp
GameFile136=Syc_HerbalismforPurists_BM.esp
GameFile137=Syc_HerbalismforPurists_TB.esp
GameFile138=TLM - AdjMod - Siege At Firemoth.esp
GameFile139=TLM - Adjust - Ald-Ruhn, The Rat In The Pot.esp
GameFile140=TLM - Adjust - Arena (New Lighting).esp
GameFile141=TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp
GameFile142=TLM - External Lights Ownership.esp
GameFile143=TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).esp
GameFile144=TLM - Light Sources (Lanterns).esp
GameFile145=TLM - Light Sources (Natural Water).esp
GameFile146=TLM - NPC Light Sources.esp
GameFile147=The Inquisition.esp
GameFile148=The Neverhalls.esp
GameFile149=Twin Blades of Azzinoth.esp
GameFile150=Unique Tombs.esp
GameFile151=Vivec Signposts.esp
GameFile152=Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
GameFile153=Widow maker crossbow.esp
GameFile154=adamantiumarmor.esp
GameFile155=almalexia armor.esp
GameFile156=dxm_metallic_signs.esp
GameFile157=entertainers.esp
GameFile158=k_in_tent.esp
GameFile159=k_weather (louder sounds).esp
GameFile160=master_index.esp
GameFile161=mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp
GameFile162=mel_teleportPlugin_1_3_Patches.esp
GameFile163=sm_ForgottenHalls.esp

» Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:23 am

Unfortunately your error log does not show a real problem. Nevertheless, I have disabled MCA a few weeks ago because of crashes like this:

Unable to find Friendly Group Clone 'ancestor_ghost_summon00000001' in Load for REFR '_MCA_ordinator_elite_f00000001'.
Unable to find Friendly Group Clone 'ancestor_ghost_summon00000006' in Load for REFR '_MCA_ordinator_elite_m00000001'.
Unable to find Target Group Clone 'ancestor_ghost_summon00000001' in Load for REFR 'Slaughterfish_Small0000013A'.
Unable to find Friendly Group Clone 'ancestor_ghost_summon00000003' in Load for REFR '_MCA_ordinator_patrol00000000'.

Expression Error Unable to find object "_MCAV_w_vamp_y_dunm_m" in script mcav_vampires_wild.

The first part may be more often due to the code patches change that many NPCs now cast their zero cost spells (summon ancestral ghost)...

» Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:38 am

Okay, I just ended up repairing the ref on my saved game, and that seemed to do the trick.

» Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:57 pm

Here's my warning file. The warning file is the error log right?

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_expensive_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_expensive_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_expensive_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.

EDIT: I guess those errors comes from Better Clothes, so it must be harmless then.

I've gotten those errors since time immemorial. They are harmless since they haven't cause any problems that I'm aware of.

» Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:52 pm

MCA has had a history of causing crashes, usually when you get a forcegreeting from a drunk when entering or leaving a pub, and sometimes when it places an attacker immediately behind the PC. I think its perhaps something about the attack, but I don't know since the only way around it is to load an earlier save or immediately teleport elsewhere.

I believe MCA's modder thinks the issue is solved (he says it is in the readme), but I just downloaded the latest update a short time ago and the issue still happens, though less often.

» Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:52 am

This might have been the problem. It might have been an issue with the master head pack, maybe one of the hairs was missing? I downloaded it and installed it since it was required by MCA, the 6.1 version anyways. I was making a new character, and I was going through the hairs, and it crashed when I kept selecting through the hairs, specifically to the right. I tried it again, and it crashes at the same part again.

» Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:21 pm

NVM