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Making several forms of Khajiit in one game would put too much focus on one playable race. This would be nice to see in TES V, but it is unbalanced and time-consuming.

I always joined the arena first thing after getting ut of the sewer to gain some levels. Imagine the cat getting hit by a sledgehammer.

It's a home run!

Ragdolls in Oblivion are sensitive enough as it is - a house cat getting hit with a sledgehammer would probably be able to fly all the way from the Imperial City to Bravil. On second thought, count me in! :toughninja:

Oh Christ almighty, and when you do click you come flying out of your mother like coins shootin' out of a slot machine. Thanks for leading me to that mental image, you dike. D:


Oh, that's a low blow. Oblivion Khajiit ain't got nothin' on the horrors furries regularly unleash.

Hey man, anything beats going back to 'Hello Kitty Island Adv.' ! !

As a full-time Khajiit, this would sadden and enrage me

:rofl: I'm simultaneously amused and slightly offended by this thread.

I'd like to see all of the Khajiit forms in one game. Not necessarily playable, but in the game.

More so than in Daggerfall?

PS: I'm not taking plushy-like Argonians from Redguard into consideration.


I'm all for master races, but, in in The Elder Scrolls, you'd expect Khajiit (depending on area and individual) to act more or less like humans. The Dark Elves (not Dunmer) shouldn't all speak with raspy voices. That doesn't make sense at all.

The Dunmeri (NOT DARK ELVES) were curse into living like devil spawn. Eye-pigments changed, magical agility changed, and their voicebox got raspy

Khajiit (I'm trying to find out if anybody objects to me using the term Khajiitmeri) Are more Bosmeri than human, and infact the Arena type were just Bosmer with tails, so much so that they tattooed themselves to differentiate from the Bosmer.

They also have a light coating of fur, like their bigger and more mannish looking khajiit, the ohmes-raht (daggerfall)

I'd be happy with just more visual customization with the beast races. Could care less about what "sub genre race" they are.

I agree, but I want Daggerfall's Khajiit back in addition to Morrowind/Oblivion's, at least. I prefer being able to play a Khajiit that shows its Merish origins(even though they weren't considered Mer back when they looked like them, but now they are).

Is that actually part of the curse? It seems far more likely that the one game-instance where we got raspy dark elves was a result of all the dark elves in that one game-instance living in a blight-and-ash-spewing hellhole; several ash-free years and a shift almost halfway across the continent certainely helps in clearing out the crap.

As for beastfolk dialects, I'd think it really depends on the location where the subject in question is living/was raised. It's not at all unreasonable to think that 'folk in Oblivion were born and raised in Cyrodil, and in doing so just soaked up the local dialect and mannerisms; those in Morrowind might've come from the homelands themselves which have their own dialect, or perhaps are even the offspring of Morrowind slaves who might've been denied proper educations for the same reason real-world slaves were denied educations in the day.


Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather the Daggerfall one didn't show up, it just comes off as a really half-assed attempt at a felinoid race. Then again I've always had a sneaking suspiscion if Oblivion's khajiit were a retcon/update of the Ohmes/Ohmes-raht from Daggerfall instead of a retcon of Morrowind's Suthay-raht as some other folks say.

There was an ohmes-raht in the book, and it describes her as:

Sounds a lot like http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8113/level14unarmoured.png

you can say what you want but would be a good start for a hard version of the game and if you love puzzels as you need to solve problems in difrent way's then normal races do only sourse of comunication go's tru other kajiit and maby some mages would be a chalanging game that would be for sure

Which is basically a scot from Braveheart with a tail. Bleh.

Look all I'm sayin is, if Beth let me play as an Alfiq, I don't care whether its hard or easy, or good or bad, I will love them eternally

I don't think it's needed to have so much attention on one race. Sure, perhaps both a more Oblivion "human" form, and a more Morrowind "beast" form. But no more.

If only one, though, I'd like to see the beast form. There was a mod for Morrowind that lets beast races wear boots by removing the boot section. Surely this can't be hard for you to do, Bethesda?


And about voices, ALL NPC's should sound like they live and have grown up in thier homeland. It gives the races more individual personalities and it defines thier characters. Khajiit's should speak in broken sentences, and Dunmer should speak with chain smoker voices!

I wouldn't prioritise the smaller aspects of lore over a good gameplay experience. Lore is massivley important, but the gameplay is more so.

And I wouldn't want there to be a waste of resources on the extra voice actors for 3 NPC's that are native to the land...

Hmm.. I may post this in the TESV suggeations forums...

Yeah there were quite a few leggings mods for morrowind so that khajiit (and argonians) could wear lower leg armor. Personally i like the version of khajiit from Morrowind. They seem more beast typical than the ones from Oblivion.

If they allowed for form variation, I would assume it would only be among the types that are intelligent and capable of communication with the other races. Such as Ohmes, Ohmes-Raht, Suthay, Suthay-Raht, Cathay, and Cathay-Raht. I seriously doubt they'd let players be something as powerful as a Mane, or any of the quadrupedal breeds.

There probably is some truth in what you just said. They're Dark Elves though...
DAMN! I HATE YOU ELDER SCROLLS. You have such retarded lore (by retarded, I mean metally handicapped).
Why are my favorite games plagued with such a world? Heck, that fact alone has combusted all my hopes and dreams. I'm going to uninstall The Construction Set, along with Morrowind and clean my house play Halo.

PS: Khajiit forms are not determined by the moon. Argonians cannot switch genders by licking tree sap. Guns and rudimentary forms of technology have been created by a crazy old scientist, with no regard for the Dwemer machinery of the past. The economy makes sense. The Mages' guild takes an apostrophe and is very exclusive. It takes astronomical amounts of money to train one in the Mages' Guild. Alchemists are a rarity, their art is not related to magic. Race doesn't make profession. Khajiit and Argonians don't all speak like downies. Khajiit is pronounced Kazheet, not Kajeet. There are bans on weaponry in most areas. Witches are hunted, as are most oddities.

Exactly what I'm saying. Unless you want to provide several voice actors for each race/gender combination (unlikely), your options are either to recording dialog with the generalization that everybody living in the area has become assimilated by the native culture of the province and can speak flawlessly, or to overdo the ethnic undertones to emphasize their uniqueness and respect their cultural origins. Really, I'd prefer the latter.

They are Dunmer. They were Chimmer (Chi-Mur, Changed folk; their skin turned golden) until Azura cursed them, at which point they became Dunmer (Doon-Mur, Cursed folk; The looked like devil-spawn.) Nords called them Dunmer before the change simply because we hated them, and called Morrowind Dunmeri (Cursed/damned elves)

those ARE both true.

Oh my. Comprehension isn't your thing, is it?

EDIT: Alright, I'm being too harsh here. Just what is your problem with the lore?

Perhaps the terms 'Don't forget this' is using are a little odd, but they are just terms. Seeing as I've seen you compare TES Lore to the bible, I'm hoping you aren't taking the 'hellspawn' thing literally.