Khajiit tails(again)

Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:55 pm

Has anyone been able to fix that obnoxious twisting that occurs while sneaking and moving?

https://youtu.be/B2hTatbvC3U

That one.

I've tried mods that relocate the tail(not a fan of that one but figured I'd try it anyways), and it was mostly fixed for argonians, but not khajiit.

I'm afraid of trying the physics tails, mostly because of the obnoxious setup involved and the bugs that go along with that, but this is really a killer.

I'm half tempted to try retexturing the tail myself, making it one solid color, becuase the main reason it bugs me is because the underside is bright freaking white and none of the skin colors(modded or not) get rid of that. There is a gross lack of khajiit textures too I notice. :(

I only use vanilla bodies(if you can't tell) and it's getting close to causing me to remove the tail entirely. :(

Halp?

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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:36 am

I can't seem to see this issue on the male Khajiit I just created (vanilla body as well and minimal mods, outside of retextures). I'm pretty sure the unofficial skyrim patch fixed that. You do have the most recent version of that right? If you do and still get it, I would check for any mods that affect the animations for the tails and remove them (assuming you have any).

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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:33 am

I only play females.

The underside of the tail has some seriously bright white spots on it. I can't get those patches to recolor with *anything*.

http://i.imgur.com/CSQenel.png

Female Khajiit. If you look at the underside of the tail, youi'll see the white. Males do not have this issue.

http://i.imgur.com/3uPxsoX.png

Male Khajiit.

I guess I could try modding a tail swap maybe? How would I go about doing that anyways? I'd imagine that getting the textures' colors to align "properly" would be a bit harder, and the two genders' tails have different patterns, but I'm wanting a super dark sable/black anyways, so I wouldn't notice it anyhow.

I use RaceMenu, but only used it to make the fur near black for the comparisons. I'd installed it hoping I could fix this.

No one cares about femkitties :(

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Post » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:30 pm

The twisting wouldn't be quite so obvious if that white underside wasn't so... obvious. I even tried the opposite, to make a pure white cat, to try to avoid that.. but it didn't work, I can't get rid of the fur pattern.

There are so few Khajiit mods out there that deal with tails.. only one mod *specifically* for females. That one replaces the tail to fix a so called "backside plug" issue, but only makes it look worse. The only one that I've found that affects animation is the HDT physics tails, and I'm not installing that convoluted thing because I'm pretty sure the jiggling would drive me nuts too.

The fix for tail twisting you're thinking of was for argonians and added to the USKP. Which *is* up to date. If the males did it without that patch, then females don't use the same animation rigging or something. :/

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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:51 am

You should open a ticket in the USKP official TracDown : http://afkmods.iguanadons.net/index.php?/topic/3865-visual-guide-reporting-bugs-with-tracdown/

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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:33 am

I can do that, but I don't think they've ever actually planned on fixing it.

And there won't be any other updates to that that won't require me to pick up HF. :/ Bleh.

Any suggestions on where to go to see about either swapping the male tail entirely or just remapping the texture for the male to the female tail? Might be a workaround for now anyways. I... am not really that great with CK and I'll probably break something, even if it *is* just texture swapping...

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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:03 am

They actually fix *every* bug which is reported in the TracDown, if they can reproduce it of course and are technically able to fix it. The problem is that a very, very few users take the time to make reports.

I just saw that you opened a ticket, we'll see. :)

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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:55 am

Yeah it was fixed for Argonian males(assumption was that it also fixed khajiit) but I haven't tested. It's been quite some time since I've played Argonian and never males(only male ever is my avatar, from ESO).

I can test it and update the ticket, but I'm pretty sure they won't update it for some time since they're working on the Legendary Edition update... Which I can't use because I don't have(and don't really want) Hearthfire.
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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:58 am

The fix would affect anything that uses the beast skeleton, but it may have only been applied to the male Argonian template. Just do the same change for the other three (female Argonian, and both Khajiits).

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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:56 am

That would require me to know how to do that.
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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:55 am

Just to clarify what the USKP has and hasn't done..

Tail twisting: Fixed in v2.0.1 by incorporating http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/32949/?, which was presumed to have fixed the issue for both Argonian and Khajiit. However, it's noted "Unfortunately as to Khajiit, there does not appear to be a separate tail file used for them so either it works or it doesn't, and if it doesn't then modders can't fix it at this point."

We have no one on our team able to change animation files, so if anyone out there can fix this for both races, we'll be glad to accept it.

Tail Lighting: Fixed in v2.0.7 by incorporating http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/56317/? , which reverses the lighting on the tail's normal maps. However, I just did a test with interesting results .... http://afkmods.iguanadons.net/uploads/gallery/album_3/gallery_1482_3_77839.jpg / http://afkmods.iguanadons.net/uploads/gallery/album_3/gallery_1482_3_185001.jpg.

If you prefer the unlit vanilla look, simply extract textures\actors\character\khajiitfemale\femalebody_msn.dds and textures\actors\character\khajiitmale\bodymale_msn.dds files and place in your Data folder to reverse the USKP's fix.
I'll take the debate whether this was a proper fix or not back to the USKP team (it just doesn't look right IMO).

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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:13 pm

I replied to this on your forum and I'll repost that here for others to see if they don't want to go there.

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I'm currently in the process of testing this out a bit further and will have some information for you shortly(waiting on videos to convert for upload).

This bug affects both races and genders in the vanilla game, but the Argonian Sneak Tail Fix mod(http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/32949/?) fixes it for both. Now, From what I've been told, this fix is supposed to be included in the USKP. HOWEVER, upon preliminary testing with *only* the USKP, Unofficial Dawnguard and Unofficial Dragonborn patches active(I do not own Hearthfire), this bug is still present. I'm currently undergoing testing to see if it does it with one, two and (again) all three unofficial patches enabled. This may take me a bit.

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I'm converting the raw files to mp4 right now so I can upload them to YouTube without YouTube giving me crap as it sometimes does when I upload raw .avi.

I'm going to test each Unofficial Patch in sequence(USKP, Dawnguard, Dragonborn) adding one at a time and see if one of the subsequent ones broke the previous fix.

Please be patient with me. ^.^ The linked mod *does* fix it for both genders and both races, I'm just trying to help narrow down what broke with it in the USKP.

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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:57 am

Okay, so.... Again, I may just be an idiot(never once denied this)

Going to redownload the unofficial patches and do what I should have done in the first place and make sure they're good.

Only reason I did *not* do this first, is because this is a brand new install and I *just* redownloaded all of these less than a month ago. New PC build, new install, etc.

Going to make sure the things didn't get broke while I was doing that somehow. >.> Why I didn't think of this first I'll never know.

Edit: did not fix it.

Downloaded http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19/?, and both the Dawnguard and Dragonborn Patches. Proceeded to test the USKP only again. No fix.

Back to testing.

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Post » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:37 am

Video playlist link:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeBPquqHE0L4ujMhak6dK9rd0E86mj7yS

Videos are labeled. No other mods, textures, or scripts are running other than what is listed. Graphics are on Ultra. No SKSE.

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