These quests (shared by Ahtar, Annekke, and Brunwulf) seem problematic because the quest-givers often involve locations that conflict with other quests. Ahtar assigns you to Broken Oar Grotto (which conflicts with Lights Out!; Annekke may be partial to Uttering Hills, which conflicts with Kjar in Windhelm and the Thieves' Guild's Summerset Shadows), so I've personally had issues with both of these two. Annekke may be particularly sensitive based on the UESP page's bug section - in fact, I don't think I ever got a quest from her (but I may not have ever tried).

Anyway, in my frustration over these two, I have blanked out about Brunwulf (in Windhelm). Yes, there's a point/question to this all: Does Brunwulf only give his radiant quest when/if he becomes jarl, or should he always offer a radiant kill the bandit leader quest?

I ask because no matter when I have talked to him this playthrough (relative to the other radiant quests), he has nothing to offer, but I could swear I got a quest from him in some previous playthrough - without him being jarl - I seem to remember just having to agree with him that Skyrim is big enough for everybody - but even with that, he isn't offering other dialogue, and I've approached him early enough in the game (no radiant or guild related quests initiated) that there should not have been any potential conflicts. Moreover, the UESP says nothing about issues with him, nor could I find posts about him on these boards.

Thanks.

Yes, he gives a quest before he's a Jarl. It's a kill the bandit leader one, with the reason that he gives it being that the bandits are harassing Dunmer, and Ulfric won't do anything about it because it's just affecting Dunmer.

I got the bandit quest from Brunwulf before he became Jarl, and he sent me to Uttering Hills. I've also been sent to Uttering Hills on a bounty received from Ulfric's steward. Seems like a popular destination for those who like to send people to kill other people.

Edit: I did Lights Out once too, and as it happened I had just discovered Broken Oar Grotto on my own and completely cleared it on my way into Solitude. So when I got to the end of Lights Out and went back there, poor Jaree-Ra was pretty lonely.

Yeah, I'm too familiar with this. Brunwulf sent me to Uttering Hills and I've already killed Linwe for the Thieves Guild, so this quest has been stuck in my journal.

Like Greywulf said there are issues with these 3 NPCs and the locations they may send you to. I guess I should get around to fixing my journal with console commands.

Ugh. Damn. I knew it was too good to be true. Seems like every time I resolve a quest or two, a new wrinkle appears. So now, after 5 massive playthroughs, I finally get Ahtar, Annekke, Shahvee, and Kjar all taken care of in one game, and then one that never gave me problems before (Brunwulf) rears its head. Glad I'm doing these things early this time around, while I can still go back and try to fix it. My only concern is that the game may have already predetermined which dungeons the quest-givers are going to use this time around, and if there's a conflict with Brunwulf, there may be no getting around it.

Give him a few ingame months, and he should give you the quest as soon as his target dungeon has repopulated.

If i remember correctly....caves etc respawn after 30 days.

or you can wait to see where the others send you.

I have had double quests in the same cave that were fine cuz they were different.

like kill the leader and get meridia's beacon sort of thing.

annekke usually sends me to a cave close to her home and not Uttering hills.

also if you do the Annekke quest her daughter becomes marriable.

Backtracked and both Annekke and Brunwulf want to use Uttering Hills, so I have to do one or the other (or wait the 30 days?).

Didn't know that Sylgja was unmarriable if you do Annekke's quest. Could it also be that the reverse applies (can't do Annekke's quest if you marry Sylgja)? I''ve always married Sylgja but never gotten Annekke's quest (until this playthrough). Just curious.

I thought that Sylgja was unmarriable until you do Annekke's quest.

but then again, you do Sylgja's quest to bring the mail to and from her dad.

that may make her marriable.

You can only have one of these quests active at the same time. I'd do Brunwulf's quest before ever speaking to Anneke, and if you can load a save where this is possible, when you do eventually speak to Anneke, the quest will randomly generate a location, so it may not be Uttering Hills again. To be safe, I'd do Brunwulf's quest, wait 30 days, and then speak to Anneke. *sigh*

I know you can only have one active at a time, but what I'm thinking is that the game predetermines what location the radiant quest will be assigned on each playthrough, and that doesn't change. For me, I've never gotten Annekke's quest, so I figured I'd do her's first. No prob. But then I went to Brunwulf, who I think I've always gotten a quest from (and if so, it would have always been first since I do town quests before settlement quests before other location quests), and now he has nothing. I reloaded a save and reversed the order and noticed that they both want to use Uttering Hills. I waited the 30 days (a mind-numbing process - it takes like 15 minutes realtime to rest 30 days in gametime), and Brunwulf still did not offer his quest even though (I checked) Uttering Hills had respawned. I don't know if I have the stamina to redo it all over again but now starting with Brunwulf first...

And If you've done the Thieves Guild questline the Uttering Hills location will probably be messed up for either/both the 'Kill a Bandit Leader' radiant quests.

The location will be generated when you get the quest, so you can theoretically use a previous save to keep picking up the quest until you get a location you want.

I'm doing all these tricky quests early in the game - I haven't done any guild quests. I see no evidence for the location being randomly generated each time I get the quest. When I quicksave before accepting a quest, the quest giver always gives the same location. I was just testing this on my current playthrough, that's why I was speculating that it is predetermined at some other point and pretty much carved in stone for that playthrough.

BTW: I went back to a save before talking to Ahtar or Annekke and Brunwulf still didn't offer a quest.

Some aspects of game play are generated the first time you enter the cell, but when a location is brought up for a radiant quest it should be when the quest is initiated. The radiant stuff can get messed up to where some doesn't start at all, which I guess is what's happened with your Brunwulf.

Out of my heart springs frustration

Lol. Otherwise known as life.

Don't do radiant quests

I never liked the "kill XXX at XXX", made me feel as if someone was ordering me "where i should start dungeoning"

Can anyone confirm completing the radiant quests for all three "kill the bandit leader" quest-givers (Ahtar, Annekke, and Brunwulf) in the same playthrough? Was there an order you did then in? I've noticed that with the "dungeon delving" quests for Amren and Shahvee, for example, I have to do Shahvee first or I will never get her quest.

I'm also curious about what Abrinth said:
...because while Ahtar is fixed for giving Broken Oar Grotto, the other two should be flexible, but I've approached them on multiple reloads, and they both are giving Uttering Hills every time on this playthrough (and as an aside, Kjar (Windhelm Docks), who has a unique radiant kill the bandit leader quest, and who in the past usually sent me to Uttering Hills, always offers up Stony Creek Cave on this walkthrough). Point being, the radiant quest destination does not seem to be randomly generated at the point of first dialogue. I'd like to hear if some other folks have tested this out and can weigh in. I know that the Thieves' Guild job locations are definitely randomly generated on successive reloads (as Abrinth described), because I've tested that myself on previous playthroughs, but the "kill the bandit leader" quests must be generated and fixed at some other point.

I just want one playthrough where it all works, y'know? Thanks.

I've never gotten the quest from Kjar, but I've completed it for him several times. Whenever I'm sent to the location of "his" bandit quest by somebody else, and kill Kjar's specific target, it just adds "return to Kjar" to my journal along with the "return to" for whoever actually sent me there. I didn't even know who Kjar was or that he offered a quest until that happened the first time.

Yes.

1. Annekke
2. Ahtar
3. Brunwulf

And if you give Shahvee enough time, you'll get her quest eventually. Just listen up already: you only have to wait until the targetted dungeon repopulates.

Ah, thank you, and I did wait - look several posts up - it didn't work.
Lemme recap (w/ more details): Ahtar and Annekke worked fine (in that order), but when I went to Brunwulf, nothing. I reloaded and looked to see where Brunwulf would have sent me if I went to him first - it was Uttering Hills (where Annekke had sent me). I reloaded the post-Ahtar and Annekke save (both of their radiant quests done), visited Uttering Hills (to make sure I corrrectly marked the time to start counting down), went to Candlehearth Hall rested for 30 game days. Quicksave. Then I travelled to Uttering Hills and saw new bandits outside. Entered the cave and there were new bandits and a new bandit leader inside. Loaded my post-rest quicksave, went to Brunwulf, and got nothing.

Shahvee belongs to a different radiant quest set shared with Amren. I figured her out already. For whatever reason, if I did Amren first, I will not get her quest. Period. Confirmed in three playthroughs. But if I visit her first, I get her quest and upon completion can get Amren's without a hitch. Confirmed on two playthroughs.