Killing the Opposition Counts As Murder?

Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:51 pm

You never gave them surrender terms, [censored].


Rebel Scum!
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Juan Cerda
 
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:38 am

Murder is the unlawful killing of another human being. So even though you are at war, yes it would still be called murder. No matter how good of a job you did :thumbsup:
Anyway, the Empire is still practically in control of Skyrim, so their laws apply. Doubly so for their troops



No, because war is not illegal. While there ARE ways of murdering during a war, lets keep in mind that in all cases shown the player was acting under orders.

Rebeillion is illegal in the eyes of the aggreived party, but the rebels aren't following their laws, anyway. Ultimately, the line becomes blurred and it becomes a matter of perspective.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:43 am

In real life, if you were in the military, and walked into an enemy encampment without orders to do so, not in your uniform, and slaughtered everyone inside, that would be counted as murder. I think.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:34 am

In real life, if you were in the military, and walked into an enemy encampment without orders to do so, not in your uniform, and slaughtered everyone inside, that would be counted as murder. I think.



That depends. Could you be considered a spy? Keep in mind that Ulfric gives the player orders to cause as much grief to the imperials as possible. By taking out an entire enemy encampment, he is simply acting upon those orders with great efficiency.


Edit: Yes, I just looked it up. You would not be guilty of murder, you would simply be tried and executed as a spy if you were caught by the enemy.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:08 am

i dont like the fact though though i've completed all the stromcloak missions and theoretically, "liberated" skyrim, when i go around to the imperial camps to kill imperial soldiers, the leaders of the camps are unkillable due to them being needed in the imperial side of the quests, though now that i've done the stormcloak side and can no longer join the legion, i should be able to kill them, but i cant. so there are imperial officers running around who attack me on sight but i cannot kill them. Why cant they just go back to morrowind and make evryone killable to avoid silly little issues like this.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:17 am

i dont like the fact though though i've completed all the stromcloak missions and theoretically, "liberated" skyrim, when i go around to the imperial camps to kill imperial soldiers, the leaders of the camps are unkillable due to them being needed in the imperial side of the quests, though now that i've done the stormcloak side and can no longer join the legion, i should be able to kill them, but i cant. so there are imperial officers running around who attack me on sight but i cannot kill them. Why cant they just go back to morrowind and make evryone killable to avoid silly little issues like this.



Again, this is likely an oversight on the part of the developers, and should be brought to their attention so that they can correct it.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:59 am

While the system HAS been improved, I fail to see why we should be satisfied with the current situation, when this oversight was easily within Bethesda's power to fix.


Its such a tiny little oversight though! Especially considering there was ZERO effect on gameplay with this oversight, only the little stats page that really doesnt matter.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:47 pm

In real life, if you were in the military, and walked into an enemy encampment without orders to do so, not in your uniform, and slaughtered everyone inside, that would be counted as murder. I think.

As someone that was in the military, yes. If you kill unarmed enemy soldiers when you are not under orders, being fired upon, etc. it counts as murder. However - see below.

That depends. Could you be considered a spy? Keep in mind that Ulfric gives the player orders to cause as much grief to the imperials as possible. By taking out an entire enemy encampment, he is simply acting upon those orders with great efficiency.

Yes. My character would be closest in real world equivalents to a spy or a special commando unit. I have orders to hurt the enemy and their capacity for war through sabotage and any other way I can discover while behind enemy lines. This is all at my discretion, though in real world terms if captured by the enemy government my own government would deny they were aware of me or my actions.

My character has orders. These soldiers are not town guards. They are not simply Imperials going about their business in a town. They are enemy soldiers in the process of manning and defending a strategy military installation in preparation for continued war actions against my side. Saying it is illegal to kill them is simply wrong. Immoral to slit their throats as they sleep? Yeah, most definitely, but waging war is far removed from moral niceties, especially when you are the underdogs facing a much larger and better equipped enemy.
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